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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:03 PM
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This was the plan all along
Ever since the crash of 1929, Depression, and New Deal ended the Gilded Age of the late 1800s/early 1900s, the robber barons, corporate raiders, and other big business people have devoted their lives to restoring America to the Gilded Age of inequality and corporate fascism.

It started with the attempt to overthrow the US government and turn it into a full blown fascist dictatorship (one of the players was one Prescott Bush). That didn't work.

They had small victories along the way (Taft-Hartley, stopping Truman from enacting universal health care), but enough businessmen made peace with the New Deal (at least temporarily) that the creation of an American middle class was not stopped.

However, with the Great Society and Vietnam marking the beginning of the end for that age of political moderation and economic progress and equality, the Goldwater movement-which grew out of those who NEVER made peace with the New Deal, even briefly) eventually found their star with Ronald Reagan, who began the modern age of American conservatism, economic inequality, and the return of the corporate takeover of America.

Eventually, with politicians becoming more conservative and consumerism eating away at the increasingly cynical electorate, the Democratic Party made peace with conservatism and corporate inequality, with Bill Clinton adopting an often right-wing (or "centrist") policy.

But Clinton was an enemy of Gingrich and his stooges, and the conservative movement in general made him the perfect scapegoat for America's problems, and because Clinton, though not a liberal, had a "D" next to his title, a failure on his part was a failure for the Democratic Party.

Thus, the destruction of Clinton and Gore, with the phony scandals and the stolen election in 2000, paved the way for the Bush Crime Family, the neo-cons, and the religious right to thoroughouly make a total mockery of American institutions, at home and abroad.

We all know the countless acts of crime and fraud that Bush/Cheney committed, but the worst was the destruction of our democracy through the erosion of the checks and balances in our government, making the executive branch accountable to no one and the other two branches puppets for the executive branch.

Now, with Obama's election, we were promised change. But he is a Beltway politician, and he inherited the mess made by the greatest crime in American history, so his hands were tied in many ways. But even if they weren't, there's no guarantee that Obama-who hired a corporatist DLC man as his Chief of Staff-would be reliable.

The Supreme Court's ruling today was the coup de grace after the destruction of our democracy, our economy, and our nation by insanely greedy people who want power for power's sake-for the last 80 years.

It took them 80 years, but they have thoroughly eroded American institutions of democracy and foundations alright. It might take 80 years to take it back. We'll see.
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:07 PM
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1. Correct. Incremental changes
and the bastards got what they wanted.

Too bad the left cannot understand this.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:14 PM
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5. And you blame the left why? Just trying to drive a wedge between the left and the centrists?
Is that what you are doing? I call it disrupting.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:29 PM
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8. Not blaming. Pointing out that trying to meet those bent on your destruction...
...half way is self defeating.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:53 PM
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10. And how does that apply to the left? What left issues do you disagree with? nt
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:53 PM
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12. Not their issues, but their willingness to "compromise" on those issues...
...until nothing of substance remains.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:16 PM
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19. Who You talkin about willis? The left willing to compromise??? WTF. nt
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:32 AM
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22. Let's see. Healthcare reform, Bank/Wall Street bailout, Escalating...
...ME wars; Continuing the Bush Admin's policy of secrecy. Move on; Fix/deal with it later. The list goes on and on and on.

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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:49 PM
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27. That's not the left n/t
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:04 PM
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31. Not their policy. But still their baby. On any one or all of those issues...
...the Left could have shut Washington down. Instead, time and time again it chose to make nice with the serial rapist shafting it and the public, while promising to make everything better later.

I think we all know what the outcome of taking such a stand in Washington would have been, but at least it would have been a public shit fight. Instead the SCOTUS just quietly made exactly the same result inevitable.

Who knows? Maybe if the Left had had the guts to stand up to your Nation's abusers and caused a big enough ruckus, the public might actually have woken up to what was being done to them.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:21 PM
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33. shitty rewriting of history
and that is your own twisted perception of what happened. But me thinks the post was intentionally meant as flame bait.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:08 PM
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2. I've wondered for a long time whether the powers that be would allow a true reformer to live?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:13 PM
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4. The problem is that we are allowing the PTB to live.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:12 PM
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3. well said--are we capable of such a generational struggle?
I doubt it. I think we are too diseased as a society by the erosion you mention--it's like a cancer that keeps growing and consuming everything. When our leaders feel comfortable excusing and even encouraging torture, you have to know things are beyond the pale.

I know I won't see these changes reversed in my lifetime. I'm not surprised, though. T this has been a decades long plan carried out by dedicated and omnipotent sociopaths. Whether a real person or a corporation, these people will continue to devour us until there is nothing left. And they are making sure our public education system and media are so bad that no one will even realize it is happening.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:15 PM
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6. the war is over.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:15 PM
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7. I won't live 80 more years. The corporations will. I guess they are more human than i am.
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aaronbav Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:37 PM
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9. K& R
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:31 PM
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11. K&R (nt)
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:53 PM
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13. K&R
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:12 PM
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14. REWRITE: In 70s GHWBush and Jackson Stephens set up WalMart with Chinese industrialists
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 10:33 PM by blm
as they set the stage for the first MAJOR test of global fascism being accepted by the American people.

Poppy Bush needed to lose the 1992 election because he expected certain impeachment after the release of BCCI report in Dec 1992. Jackson Stephens, who BROUGHT the BCCI bank into this country and used the bank for many of his fascist dealings, bankrolled Bill Clinton's primary campaign. Bush ran the worst campaign he could and Clinton took office, and proceeded to deepsix the BCCI report and all its outstanding matters throughout the 90s. Hell, he even pardoned Marc Rich for Poppy bUsh. Rich was a named figure in both IranContra and BCCI matters.

GLOBAL fascism. They won today, though they almost got fully exposed by BCCI scrutiny. That turned out to DELAY the fascist agenda, but Bush had Clinton to keep it alive. You want to point to Whitewater? Pure dog and pony show. Bush needed his agents to get into Rose Law Firm and scrub it clean. Jackson Stephens was Rose's biggest client....LOTS of dirty deals and secrets in those files.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:49 PM
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15. Makes perfect sense
Thank gawd at least they don't steal elections.

Shoot, if they were smart they'd design a vote counting system that made sure
no true reformer ever got into office. Thank gawd they ain't that smart, eh?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:55 PM
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16. I wish I could laugh....
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:07 PM
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17. Beats crying!!
blm, you are a treasure here, and, like others not a hidden treasure.

I will never meet you face to face, but know this, being here with yall has made it much easier to take.

I only wish we could have done all this about ten years sooner, we might have stopped Bushco.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:01 PM
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23. Someone should do a full documentary.
It would be incredible, and probably last a week. Robert Parry, Russ Baker should team up with someone who could give it the dark creepy hideous drama their history deserves.
I can't think of a director right now that could do it justice.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:23 PM
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24. All it takes is for the TRUTH to be told...this nation would reverse course.
Even the freeper types would be able to see how they were used and exploited for only one real purpose - to help set up the global fascist agenda.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:07 PM
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18. Right . . . Elites/Royalty simply morphed into corporations to take over government....
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:23 PM
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20. Even Goldwater would have hated this Fascist BS
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:38 AM
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21. Goldwater would be leading a revolution AGAINST this blatant fascism.
And I don't think Reagan would be too happy with it, either. This is BushInc's doing, and the reason why GHWBush was the powerful elite's choice in the 1980 race. When Reagan won the primary he was taken aside, schooled and FORCED to tap GHWBush as VP.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:07 PM
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25. The Bushes and the Reagan's...
...reportedly HATED each other. You can tell that this is true, by some
of the last comments made by Nancy Reagan herself.

You wonder, with so many people involved in these dastardly deeds--why no one
has come forward to do the right thing? Isn't there ANY leader--senator,
congress person, governor--who can come out and speak this truth?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:43 PM
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26. Kucinich and Grayson
from time to time even Ron Paul speaks the truth. The rest? Not so much.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:08 PM
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28. "the Bush Crime Family, the neo-cons, and the religious right
to thoroughly make a total mockery of American institutions, at home and abroad."

Neo-liberals have the same objctives in economic and imperial foreign policy as the neocons.

Neocons and neoliberals use wedge issue and sleight of hand to manipulate and divide populist interest groups".
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:44 PM
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29. ::
Nothing to add. Just thought you could use a :kick:

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:03 PM
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30. Just one question... Where are all the blathering fuk-tards
who ridiculed those of us on DU who rang the alarms for years to
warn that this day was coming?

They called us 'conspiracy theorist" and said we were "paranoid."

Oh really?

BHN

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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:11 PM
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32. well said, my only difference is about LBJ
I think the Great Society might have survived in some form, if it wasn't for the war.
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