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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:27 PM
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The Supreme Court decision really won't change things that much
Big corporations ALREADY have near-absolute control over the media and our elected leaders.

The recent health care debacle is proof enough of that.

In a practical sense, it is difficult to see how the system can get that much worse.

It is an awful decision, don't get me wrong. There's just not a lot of room for movement here.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:29 PM
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1. we`ll be able to actually see just how much they really do spend
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:37 PM
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6. What will they care what we know or think about it?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:42 PM
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10. they won`t ..hell they do`t now.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:31 PM
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2. I think there are ways for it to get worse.
For example, a candidate can at least still buy political ads; what if a well-heeled corp just comes in & buys up all the available time for their guy?
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:33 PM
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4. It will get worse.
It just won't be as dramatic a change as most people seem to be expecting.
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Alias Dictus Tyrant Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:31 PM
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3. How about states?
I would imagine there are State elections that already allow it (there are for most things) in their elections. Should provide some data points.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:39 PM
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8. You take the state of Ohio if the Exxon wants Senator
Sherrod Brown out it would be nothing for them to speed a few million to get it done. You are going to see them put billions into unseating every Democrat, what do we have a few dollars from a Union.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:36 PM
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5. Think about several large companies putting $25Billion and splitting it among
the republican house and senate candidates.
$47million plus goes a long way for any candidate.
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Alias Dictus Tyrant Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:38 PM
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7. probably cheaper to buy them directly.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 08:05 PM
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12. They will reach a point of diminishing returns long before that.
The corporations already have total control over the media narrative - look at the Massachusetts Senate race.

The politicians themselves are already for sale to the highest bidder, and that is why we don't have a decent health care bill.

There is only so much more they can spend before risking over-saturation, which could create a backlash.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:40 PM
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9. now it will be legal and we know the truth has no place in selling politicians.
this is criminal.
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 08:10 PM
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14. This might actually be a good thing in the long run,
if it results in some real campaign finance reform. It has certainly drawn a lot of attention to the issue.

Also, as a result of this ruling, the 'conservative' judicial philosophy is finally revealed for all the world to be the sham that we always knew it to be.

One can hardly imagine a more extreme example of 'judicial activism' than what this court has done today.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 07:46 PM
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11. Baloney: Without spending a dime they can now control congress (deterrent threat of $1M ad war)
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iceman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 08:07 PM
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13. They've been doing just that for years.
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