Been Fun Voting ... Been Fun Caring ... Been Fun Trying To Help Those Who Need It...

[matcom]

no point in it now. The SCOTUS ruling today made it impossible to have an impact (and impossible for me to care anymore).

I'm out. I will live Liberally and try to help those close. Can't fight against Walmart though. Don't have the resources or the heart.

To the people I touch now and in the future, I'll do my best.

To the people who need Progressive help. I am sorry. You probably won't see it.

I love you anyway and if I can help you personally, I will.

No point in paying much attention or certainly voting after today though. My vote will never count again.

Peace.

[UrbScotty]

1. How are you different from those on the far right?

They're the ones who I thought didn't care.

It's disgusting to see many DUers not care either.

The right-wing loves it when a liberal surrenders. It's basically doing their work for them.

[Bluebear]

4. Maybe that the far right holds all the cards in this country.

[umyeah]

59. How so?

[BeHereNow]

23. It's not about not caring- it's about being realistic.

I KNOW Matcom cares and has for years.
I also know that he is seeing the move by the scotus today
with a clear eye and mind.

Basically, the corporations will now determine WHO runs for office.
That is the most important aspect. The WHO runs for office factor.

Either way, either party, all branches of government will now openly
do their bidding and no longer have any constraints, regulations
or legislative oversight and the corporatist will do what ever the hell they want.


What good is a vote when the outcome is already decided no matter who wins.

BHN

[Edweird]

29. I think the 'who' part has been out of our control for a while.

[BeHereNow]

41. Oh I totally agree... only a hanging from a thread,

The majority of them on both sides of the aisle
are already owned by the corporations, the remaining few who are not
will now be cut loose.

BHN

[Generator]

27. Maybe those young and strong enough will wake up and

realize there are other ways to change this country-much better than voting. Americans are certainly under the illusion that everything wonderful came through voting. No, it came with blood in the streets.

No, those damn hippies didn't stop Vietnam-but they are the reason there is no draft today.

Which might be a lose for us-because until the people are in the streets again, nothing is going to change. People didn't magically be given things like worker's rights-they fought for them. But since Americans think history started in 1995 or something, they wouldn't know that. Politicians need to fear us, literally, for anything to change.

Right now we are just manipulated propaganda sucking tubes. They sell it-"change has come!" we buy.

[Generic Other]

43. You have no right to say we don't care

Matcom has merely thrown in the bloody towel because he sees we are ants fighting giants.

Many of us have spent a lifetime caring, doing everything we could to fight the good fight. We have been fighting not out of self interest, but because we care for others. Many of us won't starve because selfish stupid teabaggers destroy every social program and wreak havoc on our laws and institutions because they are too ignorant to defend their own interests. I didn't join this fight for what I stood to gain. I was defending the rights of others, asking that those less privileged than me have their needs met. If foolish rightwingers want to cut off the lifeline that keeps them from toppling off the side of a precipice because they somehow think they will get a better deal on their own, why should I care?

I don't need my social security benefits to survive. I suspect many of them do. I'll get by without. I don't need a safety net. I have enough to cover my costs, and if I run out, I will just die. Just like they will. Who cares? Those teabaggers want to give up their monthly disability payments, their social security benefits, medicare, etc., who cares? I'll get by somehow.

Willfully ignorant rightwingers want to dismantle the country because they think they will be better off, let them. I think they will be sorry. I have enough resources not to worry either way. And when that's gone, I'll try and get by on my wits as I have always done.

And no, I never wanted things to end like this, but there does come a point when one just has to say no more. Let the inmates take over the asylum. I will just try to avoid contact with them.

If a liberal asks for my help, I will try to help. Otherwise, let the rightwingers go dig in the dumpsters behind corporat America (their heroes)along with their uneducated shit eating teabagger friends.

I will harden my heart against those who destroyed this country and look right through them when they cry and complain about the world they have created.

Why should I care if they dance a jig when I give up the fight? My surrender means they face their just desserts that much sooner. Why should I care?

And yes, disgusting as it sounds, most of what I am saying I have almost been convinced to believe.

I understand exactly why Matcom feels this way.

[hatrack]

52. Maybe after getting kicked repeatedly in the face for a full decade, one gets tired of it?

Just a crazy suggestion . . . .

[rwheeler31]

2. You are not a quitter.

[slampoet]

11. They never called Don Quixote a quitter.

[Marr]

20. No, but they called him an idiot.

[slampoet]

28. My point.

[Marr]

34. Haha, I got ya now.

Pardon me, a bit slow today.

[slampoet]

44. No problem. It was my fault for being needlessly vague on a streessful day.

[BeHereNow]

3. It is pretty depressing old friend...

I'm still going to vote, despite all the reasons you state
not to bother.

I want the bastards to know I'm still here and I'll never
stop trying or go away.

BHN:hug: to you

[UrbScotty]

6. +1

[JuniperLea]

5. There must be something we can do!

Don't give up! You are so needed!

So frustrating.

[spanone]

7. fuck

[virgogal]

8. I'm watching some of the poverty and horror in Haiti right now and

you're pulling out because of a bad decision by the SCOTUS?

Sad----these folks I'm watching on TV are still fighting to survive.

[UrbScotty]

13. +1

[Zomby Woof]

19. Did he ever say he wasn't helping Haiti?

His post wasn't about humanitarian relief efforts or any claim of advocating his moral responsibilities. It was about domestic public policy and effecting change through civic duty. Jesus Christ on Lincoln Logs, can anyone critical of matcom in this thread actually understand what he meant?

[WeDidIt]

22. Dude, after today, Haiti will become the norm for the majority in this country. n/t

[Lorien]

58. Yep-if we follow Matcom's lead it will

Now is the time to fight this ruling. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=425862&mesg_id=425862

[Hekate]

9. It hasn't sunk in yet--I've been busy today. But I have a nasty feeling that eventually it will...

... rip my guts out. Like you.

Edited to add: I've always voted. Always will. But will my heart ever be in it again?

Locally, I still serve. I'm still a local official, where I think I can have some kind of small impact on people's lives. But my country, my nation, my sense of being an American citizen... I'm literally :cry: now.

Hekate

[Bluebear]

10. Certainly I don't know why individuals would give to campaigns anymore.

How could our paltry help compare with the gazillions that the Corporations will be allowed to give? It's disgraceful.

[Zomby Woof]

12. I COMPLETELY understand

I remember how demoralized I was after the '04 elections. I wrote off everything. I am rather cynical as it is, and it was not much of a stretch. Then eventually, I regrouped, and found my fighting spirit again. But this time, I am not sure I can build up a new reserve of "give a damn". Like you, I resolved to act more locally, and to live up to my ideals any way I could. There is much more to civic duty than voting, donating, or watching CSPAN. I still have my principles and ideals, but I now know that they really don't have the reach I had once hoped to attain. I am at peace with that, and myself. I know you will be too, old friend.

As for anyone accusing you of being a quitter, fuck 'em. Must be nice in Unicorn Land, with their heads planted firmly inside their tight sphincters.

[bigmonkey]

50. How dare you spit on someone who's willing to fight.

How many people do you discourage with this "hopeless" talk? You are causing hopelessness, and actively enabling the very people benefiting from these evil developments.

[Zomby Woof]

62. Can people not think for themselves?

That is some seriously weak-assed pansy crybaby whiny bullshit if you think my paragraph can INFLUENCE anyone not to do anything. Are you off your fucking nut?

I can say whatever the fuck I want, fucker. Fuck your preachy self-righteous pile of steaming shit. Fuck your over-the-top hyperbolic screeching too.

[Stinky The Clown]

14. Hey matcom, I understand. I feel just like you do except for one thing ......

.... I'll continue to vote and to let me voice be heard, even as it is as effective as a fart in a windstorm and as fun as pissing into the wind.

I'm feeling lower than whale shit these days. But I'll do what I do just to make it clear to the ratfuckers that I'm not dead yet.

[BeHereNow]

26. That's what I said upthread.

I will continue to vote just to make them nervous,
as in we're still here and we might just come after you fucks.

BHN

[Fire1]

36. Somehow, I don't think that's going to be enough this time,

Stinky.

[L0oniX]

15. Fun is highly over rated. Is there any point to being a member of a political party?

[rucky]

16. You've even quit your Photobucket account?

What have they ever done to us?

[peacefreak]

17. I wish you came back with a happier message.

Unfortunately, I think you're right. What ever happened to "by the people, for the people"? Guess it's BUY the people now. Wishing you & Mrs. Matcom all the best.

[tom_paine]

18. I know you were facetious, matcom, but no, it WASN'T fun.

As you well know, it sucks to be living during the Decline and Fall.

Worse, it sucks to be living, voting, and especially caring when the Decline and fall was so brilliantly thought out, planned, and executed by people who put the Nazis to shame with their ability to manipulate situations, people, and the system with subtlety and plenty of Plausible Deniability.

Finally, it sucks to be living in such a time when the progress made in the science of manipulation of people is a hundred, a thousand fold of what it was to tyrants in the past.

You and I have been around this ol' DU pretty much since the beginning. I arrived here in late March 2001 and I am pretty sure you were either here already or soon after that.

We caught the last act of the Old Republic, guy. But in the Tragedy of the Fall of the American Republic, the last act is always the most...tragic.

Bad news for us, but not as bad for the poor bastards alive 50 or 100 years from now.

What will it look like? As to specific details, I couldn't venture a guess, but the trends are immutable, huge, and lit like neon arrows to hell.

We were spolied rotten, in that we got to live the first parts of our lives during the post-WWII America, which I am coming more to understand was really not much more than "We have to give the Plebs lots of stuff so they won't start thinking the Russkies have it better."

Was it EVER real? This Modern Americcca erases old memories so fast, I am not so sure anymore.

I understand what you mean, empathize, and agree. I also realize the only "revolution" that the American Subject Populace will likely ever be capable of is one modeled after the 1933 German "Revolution", but with better PR and marketing strategies.

[BeHereNow]

25. +1

Wish we could recommend individual posts too!
BHN

[dmr]

32. Sad. Just a sad sigh from me

:cry:

That's all I got for the moment.

I don't want to even think about what the future will be like 10, 20 years from now.

:cry:

[Catshrink]

21. That's what I'm feeling.

So disappointed.

[HughMoran]

24. I was thinking that my car hobby is going to be a higher priority as soon a spring hits

Not only is what's happening out there depressing, DU only adds to the bad feeling lately. :(

[dysfunctional press]

30. i'll live liberally, and wait for the revolution that will never come...

global climate change is the best bet there is for any kind of karmic retribution at this point.

[Haole Girl]

31. Hi matcom

:hi:

[FLPanhandle]

33. Suddenly I'm all for the 2nd Amendment Rights

Eventually, those guns may turn out to be useful.

[DCBob]

35. Oh dear, cut the drama.. this country has always been this way.

We made some headway. Any further progress wont be easy now but it wont happen at all if we give up.

[Vidar]

37. K&R. You've been missed.

[DainBramaged]

38. Peace to you my friend, it is a realization we all are facing

The corporate vote now rules, along with the church (who are corporations too and can spend wildly now).


The Supreme Jokers have brought about the downfall of the US Constitution, and are simply doing their best to bring about the end-times. just think, the most vile and nasty anti-gay ads now become sanctioned and financed by big business and the church. Same for women's rights, down the toilet. Big business controls their vagina's now.


Peace be with you, it was a fun ride, but the Pukes held the cards and we didn't even know it.

[nomaco-10]

39. I spent eight years of my life handwringing and losing sleep....

during the bush years. I can't continue to do it for the next 3-7 years again, I'm getting to old and too tired of it all at this point.

If this country continues to fill the seats of congress with folksy fascists because they drive pick up trucks and can see russia from their back porch, I'm out too, the SCOTUS decision being the final straw. I did my damnest, somebody else will have to step up. I'm done for a while.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

49. Folksy Fascism sells apparently.

Great phrasing. Started with our fake cowboy W and continuing with Sarah and Scott.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

40. This may be the only thing we can do...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G54lfxiid_w

[kayakjohnny]

42. But please don't underestimate the law of unintended consequences.

There is no way of telling yet how this news could affect the spending habits of untold millions of Americans. Including those who haven't been tuned into politics.

Yet.

Everyone has a breaking point. And even mass numbers of citizens can have a collective breaking point. Including the deluded and uniformed. And misinformed.

And the word may eventually spread quietly through the streets that it really is 'them against us'.

Sooner or later enough people will be beaten down or demoralized that they actually and truthfully believe

that there is nothing left to lose.

And of course, all bets are off when that happens.

[NNN0LHI]

45. Get unionized and fight fire with fire

And support other union workers.

That will work.

Don

[name not needed]

46. on another note, what happened to ol' ass-stairs?

[BeFree]

47. Diebold

Your vote has been ripped away for 8 years now.
And I'm just about done fighting to help people get it back.
F'n idiots.

[kestrel91316]

48. We can STILL make a difference on the local and state level, IMHO.

But as far as national politics goes, the corporations will completely own all offices from here on out.

America: she lived a good life. Sad to see her dead and gone.

[ellie]

51. I can't roll over

It is my nature to be a thorn in the side of authority. I hate authority. If we have to go back to pamphlets to get our message out, then so be it.

[montanto]

53. A friend of mine does this song called

"Druggie days are back again" about going back to a hedonistic lifestyle since everything else is out of control. I'm just about there myself. If it weren't for my wife, I'd go out and have a drink this afternoon. That's the only way I keep it straight now.

[tallahasseedem]

54. And that's exactly what the right wants you to do...

sit out and watch from the sidelines. Good job giving in and enjoy what will be your full support for Palin in 2012.

[LoZoccolo]

55. POSTING IN EPIC THREAD n/t

[LoZoccolo]

56. P.S. Even douche do you not still care about? n/t

[Lorien]

57. Well, you've given the corporations and their party just what they want

No opposition. So, we are all to go out without even a whimper then? I guess the Left is spineless after all.

[Robb]

60. Help me personally.

Quit it.

[Zorra]

61. Peace? Sorry, no. This fucking war just started. And you've been drafted.

Shit happens. No surrender.
:beer: