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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:19 PM
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New life form defeats human race
So many of us, especially those who read science fiction, thought that the ultimate threat to the human race would come in the form of artificial intelligence (ala The Terminator or The Matrix), or extraterrestrials, or global climate change, or microbials.

But how many have realized that a whole new life form has been rapidly evolving, right here beneath our noses and with our complete support, and now is at a point where it is fully formed and endowed with all of the power and rights that it needs to do with as it wishes to the human race?

Oh, but you might argue, it's a parasitic or symbiotic relationship, and therefore *needs* the human race for it's own survival. Perhaps, but there's no doubt left that the relationship is now one of master/slave, that this new life-form is now calling the shots and that any individual human is completely 100% expendable.

Of course I'm talking about the Corporation. This is the stealth species that has just overtaken the human race as the most powerful being on the planet. Even the CEO of the corporation is completely expendable and unnecessary. That's pretty much like saying that a human can survive without it's head.

We foolishly were fearing robots or aliens as the ultimate threat to our species, and in the meantime, have created and nurtured to maturity the very being that now enslaves us.

This is not hyperbole or a simile or a metaphor, but an actual real tangible description of the relationship between humans and corporations.

We thought it would be A.I., and while that was frightening, I think most of us retained that little bit of faith in the supremacy of the human brain/mind/spirit and that A.I. could never surpass humans.

But this, it's *not* A.I., not even close, and yet the threat is so much more real, probably because it's not in the future, it's HERE, it's NOW, and it's REAL.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:20 PM
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1. Resistance is futile.. you will be assimilated.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:22 PM
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2. It may not be so bad.......


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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:43 PM
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5. What a strange place for a cameltoe
O8)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:20 AM
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12. +1,000,000
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:23 PM
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3. I am a sort of fan of science fiction, but I always am more toward
the biological sciences rather than the technological ones. I guess we never thought of business as an alien threat. I know some writers like Heinlein have touched on it but....?
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:20 AM
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10. Frederik Pohl did. nt
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:24 AM
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13. And John Boyd. (n-t)
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targetpractice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:36 PM
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4. Absolutely true... Have you read "The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins?
Corporations are self-perpetuating "survival machines" that compete and exist in an environment governed by Darwinian principles.

We, humans, are food.
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nyrnyr1994 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:44 PM
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6. All of this has happened before....
The Cylons Corporations were created by Man.
They were created to make life easier on the Twelve Colonies.
And then the day came when the Cylons Corporations decided to kill their masters.
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targetpractice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:46 PM
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7. I think corporations are parasitic of the human species..
... not independent.

They can't kill us yet.. They must keep us alive to survive.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:59 PM
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8. They need the human race, but individuals are each expendable
Completely. The same way livestock are to humans. We need them as a species, but individually, we couldn't care less what happens to them.

It's a master/slave relationship, absolutely.

And we made them, and then handed ourselves over as slaves.

We deserve what we get, I guess.
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:05 AM
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9. A dollar's worth of paranoia
http://jubal.westnet.com/hyperdiscordia/dollar_paranoia.html

It occurred to me that a single dollar can, by the mere act of changing hands, generate hundreds of tax dollars over the course of its useful life. Let's say you live in New York, and you earn a dollar; you buy a shirt with that dollar, and suddenly 8 cents is owed to the government; the vendor uses that same dollar to buy a candy bar, and once more money from taxes flows to the government. Take a more concrete example -- you have $10 worth of cabbage, and someone gives you $10 for it. There is still only $10 worth of cabbage around, but all of a sudden you need $.80 above and beyond that to give to the government. In fact, once that $10 worth of cabbage changes hands 13 times in New York, you need $20 in circulation to cover it -- despite there still being only $10 worth of cabbage (and that, by this point, rather elderly).

But, I told myself, that money is assumed to be in circulation already; it's not as if taxes create money -- does it? I decided to do some looking around. It seems that taxes themselves do not create money -- that job, I found, is left to the Gross National Product, which is based on the value of goods and services purchased. So, if you and a friend keep paying each other the same fifteen dollars to provide some service for each other (say, you pay him $15 to shake your hand, then he pays you the same $15 to shake his), you'll eventually bump up the GNP and cause a concomitant increase in the money supply. What's more, this increase in the money supply has a tendency to increase spending. So, spending money increases the GNP (whether that spending was to build a museum, clean up an oil spill or tear down an old lady's ancestral home -- so long as the money moves, it doesn't matter why or whence), which increases the money supply, which causes further increases in spending... And let's not even get into inflation.

This is how money breeds -- it evolved in a socio-memetic niche, and is now breeding like fruit flies only wish they could. Sure, THEM can use it (even as it uses THEM, in an icky kind of co-parasitic venture), but money is no more a tool of THEM than bees are a tool of flowers.

It may seem that the credit industry is poised to deliver its own memeto-evolutionary version of a million-ton-meteor impact, but this will only serve to stem the tide of green paper before it comes flooding down Wall Street like a plague of rabbits over a New Zealand farm -- and green paper is only one sub-species of the ubiquitous Dollar. As Ol' Sam managed to point out, money lives primarily in our heads, and the credit industry certainly isn't taking any steps toward bringing money to extinction there -- indeed, the sub-species of Dollar which lives as an abstraction will experience a population explosion of untold proportions if the credit industry ever succeeds in completely unshackling it from the need for physical representation; the abstract dollar will have as great an evolutionary advantage over the paper dollar as the paper dollar did over the gold dollar. Dollars can multiply utterly unhindered in the abstract, without anyone needing to figure out where to put several billion tons of paper. And all the while, they will be sheltered by captains of industry and thrifty housewives alike; will grow fat on greed, commercialism and envy; will be transported to new environs by the spread of Western Culture -- until, eventually, they gain illimitable memetic dominion over the human mind.

Assuming, rather optimistically, that this hasn't happened already.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:12 AM
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11. Fantastic post!
The first 2 paragraphs I was thinking...cockroach?....ant?...dolphin...?
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:07 PM
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14. Funny synchronicity - Last night, an old episode of Star Trek had
Data handing over people to the Borg. So much of the dialogue of that show echoed exctly what people here were saying about the Corporate-controlled world.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:50 AM
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15. I Argue That This *Is* Artificial Intelligence
What we're witnessing is the emergence of an artificial non-human intelligent lifeform that soon will have no need whatsoever for humans or biological life. The psychopaths in power throughout the world are all its minions. Seems like A.I. to me.
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 01:37 AM
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16. I've been thinking about this for a while. There will come a day when CEOs are replaced by A.I.
When that happens, and corporations will be computers with enormous resources and the rights of a person, we are all seriously fucked.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 02:19 AM
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17. Total Recall and Outland are about corporate control
Total recall is a good story ruined by making it into a Schwartzenneger action movie. And Outland stars Sean Connery as the marshall on a mining colony on Io, one of the moons of Jupiter where the mining corporation gives workers a drug that makes them work longer hours but end up making them psychotic and murderous and suicidal.

Frank Herbert's Dune is about the Spice on one planet and the corporate and Imperial struggle to control it. Great book and the movie truly tried to be true to the novel.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 02:47 AM
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18. Brilliant.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 03:02 AM
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19. Oooh but you're so cool and insightful. Cycles. The world works in cycles.
All the angst in the world, collectively, doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

The pendulum swings. The pendulum swings back. That cycle never ends.

Over time, the cycle of the pendulum has been influenced by the relentless advance of technology. The extreme swing of the pendulum at one time was all anyone knew. Now that there is a twenty four hour cycle, the swing of the pendulum isn't so noticable...

Tomorrow will be HERE, and tomorrow will be REAL. The sun also rises.

It'll be okay. We'll survive. Stop being an alarmist.
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