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Tony_FLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:51 AM
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Regarding Corporations being able to pay for political advertising
Of course this was a terrible decision, but perhaps people are making it out to be worse than it actually is. Most people already have their political beliefs and are not swayed by political advertising.

Yes, it will have an impact but perhaps the gloom-and-doom has been a little overboard.

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:56 AM
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1. If that were true we wouldn't see such an upswing in political advertising during campaigns.
People are swayed by ten second soundbites. The only answer is publicly funded, and only publicly funded, political campaigns.
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Tony_FLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:01 AM
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3. They spent about 1 billion dollars in the 2008 election on advertsing.
There becomes a point when it becomes redundant and people tune it out.

It's not like there is an infinite amount of advertising that can be purchased on television and radio.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:57 AM
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2. The problem with that statement...
...is that in many cases elections are not about what "most people" want or believe. They're about swaying those who are undecided to one side or the other.
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Tony_FLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:06 AM
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4. The people who are undecided base their decision on their own personal situation along
with advertising. If the economy is not doing well in 2010, no amount of political advertising will help those in power.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:10 AM
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5. I disagree.....
it is very serious,
which is why there is a reaction out there and in here
that belies your statement.

It isn't like we are stupid and you are not.

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Tony_FLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:16 AM
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6. I didn't say anyone was stupid.
and it is a awful decision. I'm saying there are many factors that decide who wins an election not just the amount of money spent on advertising. There are examples of rich people running for office and not always being successful.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:21 AM
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7. Candidates spend a lot of time raising funds......
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 03:24 AM by FrenchieCat
there is a reason that they do.

If it is the case that one can be funded in whole
by one entity for a major portion of their expenses,
you've got yourself a bought and paid for candidate, period.

It's not just advertising on television and radio,
it's advertising by mail, phone calls, folks knocking on your door,
having your name on a NASCAR car for free, and on and on.

In essence, is one entity (that can become such an entity just for this purpose)
literally able to outright own themselves some politicians.

Also corporate entities having partners that are foreign,
and pretty soon, China owns our government outright.

I'm serious....Americans are known for their excesses.
It can start out relatively slow, and in a few years,
we won't even recognize this country's form of government.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:05 AM
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8. Its not just candidates they can dominate the airwaves on EVERY SINGLE ISSUE
and use propaganda to get themselves into positions to push new laws.

The misinformation campaigns have already been quite effective and now they have a free hand. This is really horrible.
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