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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:18 AM
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Has any decision by the Roberts court similarly expanded rights for actual people?
Or just the artificial ones?
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:20 AM
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1. crickets chirping..........
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:21 AM
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2. District of Columbia v. Heller
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:27 AM
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5. Yeah, that was the big one for me, too...but a lot of the old line "liberals"
hate it.
Seems there are "good" rights and rights that are not appropriate.....


mark
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:37 AM
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21. Another example of an expansive case that was wrongly decided using results oriented jurisprudence
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 08:38 AM by depakid
rather than sound legal theory and facts.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:00 AM
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25. See? "Bad rights!" nt
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:47 AM
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29. Nope- poor jurisprudence
the case didn't require sophistry nor a grand pronouncement to settle the issue at hand. But then- this court (even more so than the Rhenquist court) doesn't care about anything other than their political agenda. Law, tradition and procedure are irrelevant- except when it furthers that agenda.

Much like the Lochner Era- which it seems to many scholars that the court hearkens to. (curiously- some movement "conservatives" have actually admitted to that- including a federal judge who the usual suspects among the Democratic party voted to confirm).

Oh, believe you me- you're going to LOVE those "rights" as they're announced- especially if you enjoyed today's case.

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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:02 PM
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31. I really didn't enjoy today's case, not the one saying that government
surveillance of great numbers of US citizens is NOT subject to judicial review.
I will keep my guns, thanks - and you are welcome to not have any.

I am an armed progressive and there are nowhere near enough of us.

mark
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:47 AM
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22. Maybe some of those guns could be put to good use.
:shrug:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:48 AM
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30. Well, somone did try to shoot up the Texas state capital yesterday...
:crazy:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:29 AM
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8. That's a big one, but I disagree that it has the same scope
Certainly it doesn't grant anyone any rights out of whole cloth. It simply removed an unconstitutional restriction.

Yesterday's ruling granted incredibly powerful rights to artificial entities--rights that didn't exist until yesterday.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:25 PM
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32. That was phase one...
Phase two (McDonald v Chicago), is scheduled to be heard on March 2nd with the decision announced sometime in late June.

Assuming good things happening there (and the level of scrutiny applied), phase three would be challenging; with the intent of overturning, as many state gun control laws as possible.

Our work is far from over, but at least we have the foundation in place to build on.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:23 AM
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3. Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficente Uniao do Vegetal
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:31 AM
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11. Does it summarily manufacture rights out of thin air?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:25 AM
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4. Georgia v. Randolph
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:31 AM
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12. Does it summarily manufacture rights out of thin air?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:27 AM
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6. House v. Bell
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:31 AM
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13. Does it summarily manufacture rights out of thin air?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:29 AM
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7. Burlington Northern & Santa Fe Railway Co. v. White
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:32 AM
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14. A big one, but does it summarily manufacture rights out of thin air?
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:30 AM
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9. The Kangaroo Jack Court is a SHAM.
Not only is it a sham, it's one that has the potential to be patently dangerous in the coming years, since only two on the rogue side are in their 70s (Fat Bastard Tony and Kennedy).

Here's what I don't get - how is it that we're not allowed to screen justices so that we don't have to deal with obvious over-partisan ones such as Roberts, Thomas and Fat Bastard Tony? Judges aren't politicians or pundits. Isn't the position of Supreme Court Judge supposed to be above that sort of nonsense?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:18 AM
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27. It's really troubling. The RW trails against activist judges, but that's been their
agenda for thirty years.

Calssic case of projection.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:30 AM
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10. United States v. Gonzalez-Lopez
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:32 AM
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16. Does it summarily manufacture rights out of thin air?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:32 AM
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15. Hamdan v. Rumsfeld
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:33 AM
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17. The answer I'm getting from all of your replies is "no"
Although these cases have removed restrictions on rights and have clarified rights, they haven't created those rights out of nowhere.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:34 AM
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18. The activiist right wingnut judges only rewrite the Constitution against the people
not for them
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:34 AM
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19. Lopez v. Gonzales
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:55 AM
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24. An interesting one, but hardly equivalent in scope
Nor does it grant rights out of nowhere.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:13 AM
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:36 AM
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20. Are individuals still limited to $2,000?
Or do corporation have MORE rights than you or I?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:54 AM
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23. It has never been satisfactorily explained why corporations should have any rights.
A corporation can buy $5M worth of advertising in a limited market, thereby eclipsing all ads except for the candidate it has chosen, for instance.

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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:23 AM
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28. Where are all of those assholes who said 'keep the powder dry'

during the Roberts nomination?

Anybody wanna step up?
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jacksonian Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:33 PM
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33. that's so far from the point
look, if you shot down Roberts Bush would have just kept sending Roberts clones trying to pose as moderates until the cows came home. You can't filibuster everybody just because they're a Repug choice. The only way out was to have Bush not be pres.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:15 PM
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34. Kick this for a real answer--excellent question
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