Obama to Indefinitely Imprison Detainees without Charges

[leave iraq]

".... many Democrats simply do not believe in the axiom best expressed by The New York Times' Bob Herbert when he said that "Americans should recoil as one against the idea of preventive detention." As Herbert wrote: "policies that were wrong under George W. Bush are no less wrong because Barack Obama is in the White House."

That precept should be too self-evident to require expression and yet is widely rejected. Hence, exactly that which very recently was condemned as "a dungeon, a gulag, a tropical purgatory, and a black-hole embarrassment" is now magically transformed into a beacon of sober pragmatism from a man -- a Constitutional Scholar -- solemnly devoted to restoring America's Standing and Values. "

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/22-5

[dysfunctional press]

1. we suck.

[slackmaster]

2. I trust the Obama admininstration just enough to take their word on this one

I'm quite sure that those 50 or so prisoners suck too.

[vincna]

4. Agree completely

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[Moochy]

9. Trust in Him

Evildoers exist in the world.. it's just these 50 people! Bush wasn't that wrong, only clumsy in his selling of the war.
True supporters support democratic illegal wars!

:patriot:

[ima_sinnic]

13. yuo forgot the sarcasm "smiley"?

[Moochy]

16. My sig should give it away

But yes I was layering it on thick enough to spread with a trowel. :+ plus I rarely post patriot smiley in a patriotic context, since I think nationalism and patriotism are ridiculous bunk.

[ima_sinnic]

20. sorry--I knew that

right now I am just blinded by rage :grr:

[slackmaster]

29. They're non-resident enemy combatants captured overseas

The Constitution does not apply to them.

[Echo In Light]

10. Yes, and even though domestic disciples squeal w/delight, the world sees it differently

[ima_sinnic]

14. yes, "restoring our image" in the world

well, we're officially a fascist state now that will soon be a pariah in the world, so what difference does it make?

[Echo In Light]

23. Slight degrees of perceptive difference here, squat elsewhere, I'm guessing.

[Moochy]

3. A Constitutional Scholar

knows better and that makes it so much worse. Can't risk offending the ones who came up with the illegal policy! Oh no, gotta look forward and in doing so that means that we can't change existing policies, only argue about new policy.

Just 50 people that's all that the cheerleaders have to justify. That's a modest conceit, after all they are not Americans™ :patriot:

You people who support this policy make me sick.

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[AngryAmish]

21. John Yoo is a constitutional scholar also

[treestar]

7. There are 50 they felt too dangerous to release and could not figure out how to try

I haven't seen anything on why they have no way to try them.

[ima_sinnic]

11. rec'd--let everybody see the phony "constitutional scholar" at work

[Mari333]

12. and the fascist regime continues, unabated. knr

[G_j]

15. American gulag nt

[Solly Mack]

17. If you hold them until they die they can't talk about their torture by the US government

"too difficult to prosecute" - because the US government tortured them...and because the government can't pin anything else on them that happened outside the scope of the torture


The US government is going to pretend that it can hold a trial for some of the detainees it tortured (so-called 911 mastermind, KSM) but not for other detainees it has tortured.....because they plan to charge (KSM, etc..) them with other things if they have to to keep the torture out of the trial...a cowardly move in and of itself.... both moves are cowardly because it allows the government to pretend it didn't commit war crimes by preventing the fact that the US government tortured people from entering the courtroom.

[ima_sinnic]

19. this adminstration sickens me more every day

what a fucking rip-off the 2008 election was. I was SUCH a fucking FOOL.

disgusting, sick, outrageous--there are no words strong enough for these evil atrocities.

[Solly Mack]

22. I have the exact same sick feeling I've had since this all began

:(

[Moochy]

25. Looking Forward, Moving Ahead

That's what it means, complicity in illegal acts. Mission Accomplished.

[Solly Mack]

26. Years from now America will deign itself to apologize..pat itself on the back for its magnanimity

and crow about how strong our democracy is that a country as great as America is can admit it was wrong


BARF

[ShortnFiery]

18. Where is "the justice" in that?!? No wonder many foreigners hate our guts ...

we used to STAND FOR *The Rule of Law.*

Now we are morphing into a totalitarian Police State. :(

[jgraz]

24. Poor Foreigners: indefinite detention. Rich Foreigners: Come buy our elections!

What a country!

[CrispyQ]

27. I've posted this once already today, but it deserves a place in this thread, too.

[ima_sinnic]

28. excellent

hits the nail on the head

[ProgressIn2008]

30. I'm getting more and more curious to read some of the "constitutional scholar" writings

When this was a president with an R after his name, many called it fascism. What is now, I find myself wondering?

[leftstreet]

31. K&R