"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

[LiberalEsto]

"Nothing is over until WE decide it is!" -- Bluto, Animal House

We don't have to decide that everything is over just because the Supreme Court's majority sold out to the highest bidder.

We don't have to give up just because that centerfold twerp Brown won in Massachusetts.

We don't need to kiss democracy goodbye just because Air America goes broke.

I'm as shocked and furious as anyone else on DU about the latest blows. But please, let's remember that we have roofs over our heads, drinking water and food, unlike the people of Haiti. They're not giving up. We don't have to lie down and give up.

If President Obama and the Democratic majorities in the House and Senate keep kissing corporate butt and refusing to do anything for average Americans, then it's time we held their feet to the fire.

Congress could still do something to restore the Fairness Doctrine so that progressive voices would have their share of media air time.

Congress could still do something to revoke corporate personhood.

We can bitch and moan, but we can still press for these and other reforms. Maybe we need another Poor People's March on Washington like the one the Rev. Martin Luther King planned just before his tragic death in 1968. Maybe we need to show up and show them how fed up we are with corporatocracy.


"Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part." -- Otter

[TornadoTN]

1. I VOTE FOR THE SENATOR SPONSORED BY BEER!

Food fights in the halls of Congress, a 12 pack in every American's fridge. That's change I can believe in!

[LiberalEsto]

4. Why didn't I include that?

(forehead slap)

[TornadoTN]

15. You forgot something again

[Strelnikov_]

2. Yes, I was thinking about this excange also n/t

[niyad]

3. "when the GERMANS bombed pearl harbor"???

[LiberalEsto]

6. You haven't seen the movie, have you? nt

[TornadoTN]

7. Oh no.....

You haven't been subjected to the movie Animal House in all of its glory, have you?

[Hekate]

8. It must be part of the Animal House quote

[ManiacJoe]

53. Yes, it is.

If you have not seen the movie, it is probably worth renting once.

[bobbolink]

10. Yes, if you don't watch the same movies as the "in crowd", then you are.....

(fill in the blank of the putdown du jour of DU)

Middle school in crowds are IN, donchaknow...

[TornadoTN]

12. Come on, no one has called anyone any names in this thread!

[bobbolink]

17. Oh, you mean its going to go in a different direction from all the *other*

Bulushi in crowd threads?

That would, indeed, be refreshing.

[TornadoTN]

22. Well, let's wait and see before we jump to conclusions, shall we?

But yes, it would be refreshing.

[bobbolink]

26. I'm too tired to do *any* jumping.

But, you have to admit, that is the tone of most things on DU anymore, and I saw one more person questioning the same thing that got others slapped.

Being for the underdog always, I spoke up.

Surely that makes sense to you.

On that note, have your movie discussion, and try to include ALL. OK?

So long to the Belushis and others....

ps.... as I was reading your post and writing this response, I was accosted by a crowd of sociopathic teenaged males of the same genre as the Belushis.... it *does* get tiring to more sensitive people....the same sensitive people who would like to see an outbreak of peace.

Silly old dodos, we are.

[Obamanaut]

36. Lighten up. Enjoy life a little. nt

[bobbolink]

40. Yeah, its so enjoyable for some of you to dump on others.....

Enjoy yourselves.

[Obamanaut]

50. Normally I don't enjoy it, but since you suggested it, for you I can

make the exception.

I get the sense that you want people to apologize to you because others know about, or have seen, various movies. It ain't gonna happen.

[proteus_lives]

37. FertheloveofPete.

Grow a sense of humor!

[Fire Walk With Me]

34. ...

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38&_nkw=animal+house+dvd

[Harry Monroe]

45. "Forget it, he's rolling!"

Showenstein (Boon)

[gcomeau]

5. That post title WAS comedy, right? -nt

[LiberalEsto]

9. It's a line from the movie "Animal House"

A comedy about an out-of-control college fraternity

[AlinPA]

11. "Congress could still do something to revoke corporate personhood". Are you kidding?

1.)The republicans can stop everything in the senate with their filibuster.
2.)The fall election will be flooded with 100's of millions or billions for republicans
3.)When they win the house, the only things they will revoke will be the minimum wage, social security, medicare...

[LiberalEsto]

14. So what should we do, then?

Just lie down and take it?

[AlinPA]

19. No, but to suggest that congress is going to revoke corporate personhood is very doubtful.

I watched Keith Olberman last night and his last words were: "Who is going to stop them?"
Certainly not congress. They are the ones who will be purchased.

It's up to us, but how? Help from other countries?

This ruling is enormous. When corporations can spend without limit on campaigns, unions' funds and raising money from individuals won't cut it.

[LiberalEsto]

27. We still have the nuclear option, don't we?

Might as well use it now, while we still can.

[AlinPA]

30. That's right. Use it now.

[kirby]

13. .

[dflprincess]

16. Is it true the inspriration Bluto was none other than George W. Bush

It always seemed possible to me

A DU question from the past:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2471847

bear with me here, fans of fine cinema. For some years, it has been heavily conjectured, rumored and theorized that the John "Bluto" Blutarsky character in John Landis's Animal House, the Citizen Kane of fraternity comedies, was based in more than small part on the exploits of one Delta Kappa Epsilon brother at Yale University named George W. Bush.

These rumors are sure to be revived with the publication Monday in Newsweek of "Their Wars" an article comparing and contrasting the service of the former Texas governor and Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry.

Compare, if you will,

When Bush entered Yale in 1964, he joined Deke, the jock fraternity, and became rush chairman, handing out the nicknames and pounding down beers at "the longest bar on campus."

to one line of dialogue from Animal House:

"From now on, your Delta Tau Chi name is Weasel..."

And then there's this:

A favorite fighter-jock game was called Dead Bug. In a bar, when anyone shouted "Dead bug!" everyone, including generals, had to drop to the floor with hands and feet extended into the air, like a dead bug. Last man down had to buy drinks.

One word should come to mind for connoisseurs of fine American cinema:
"GATOOOOOR!"

Discuss amongst yourselves...

and

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-littman/what-president-bush-learn_b_55349.html

George W. Bush is what would have happened if Senator Blutarsky became president.

These two men had much in common, even in college. What do I mean? Well, who was "was elected president of his fraternity, Delta Kappa Epsilon, which was known as the hardest drinking jock house on campus." According to The Washington Post, that was George Bush. As we know, Bluto was also a member of the Delta House, but at mythical Faber College.

It appears that President Bush was the real life Bluto, and that explains why he respected Bluto so much that he followed in the fictional senator's footsteps. Let me cite several examples as to how George W. Bush took his cues on leadership from Bluto Blutarsky:

In the movie, Bluto showed his knowledge of history when he asks, "Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

While George Bush was president, the United States was attacked by terrorists, mostly from Saudi Arabia, and under the orders of a terrorist living in Afghanistan. The U.S. then attacked... Iraq -- the equivalent of attacking Germany after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

In the movie, Bluto used his imagination to declare himself, implausibly, a zit!

As President, Bush used to declare himself, implausibly, a fighter pilot!

:rofl:

[TexasObserver]

18. "Nothing is over until WE decide it is!" -- Bluto, Animal House

[mstinamotorcity]

20. hope you are not

using sarcasm to get your point across.We all know it was not the Germans who bombed Pearl Harbor.Makes it hard to bring validity to your point in op.

[LeftinOH]

23. Leave the OP alone, he's on a roll-

(BTW, the OP title is a well-worn pop culture reference).

[LiberalEsto]

28. She...

I'm a her and yes,

I'm on a roll ;)

[mstinamotorcity]

31. calm down

we know its sarcasm just letting the uniformed in on it duh.:hi:

[TornadoTN]

24. It's a line from the famous movie, "Animal House"

Just some humor interjected into the situation here, which seems to be unbearably bleak.

[WolverineDG]

33. it never fails

quote that line & there's always someone who doesn't get it. :rofl:

like shooting fish in a barrel.

dg

[Harry Monroe]

48. Here's the full exchange from the movie. BTW, lighten up. It's a joke and a cultural reference.

D-Day: War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.
Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.
Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...

Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!

Bluto: What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...
Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.
D-Day: Let's do it.
Bluto: *Let’s do it*

[Dr.Phool]

21. I was thinking of that exact same line last night!

[Lifelong Protester]

25. Old enough to have seen it in the theaters where it made me

go "Huh?' and danged, if you didn't get me again. The OP is right. Ok folks, enough of this hand-wringing boo hoo hoo crap, enough of the wound licking, we need to GET ON IT.
Give up? NEVER!!!

[LiberalEsto]

29. Now we need 1 million marbles ...

We've got 11 months before the next Congress gets sworn in.

Eleven months to fight back whichever way we can, before the corporations buy themselves a new Congress -- IF we let them.

What can we achieve in 11 months?

[mstinamotorcity]

32. I hope working together

i would love to achieve some big victories. But our friend Glen Beck wants us to take it to the streets. I do to, I want to do it like MLK, but that is not what i think Beck wants.What do you suggest?

[Harry Monroe]

46. And we need a "Deathmobile"!!

[Auggie]

47. LOL

[Obamanaut]

35. This very same movie line was used in a thread quite recently, and

in that one also there were several corrections offered, even though after each one the explanation was made that it came from the movie "Animal House."

In both of these threads, based on the way the corrections are spaced, one might think that folks read the OP, and jump right in to offer to fix what they see as an error - without reading any of the responses.

Or, they don't know references from outstanding movies.

It was this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=7532471

[LiberalEsto]

38. It means younger people are on DU

and that, ultimately, is a very good thing.

Even though I'm a member of the baby boom generation, I don't want DU to be the exclusive province of people my own age, or aof ny other age group. It's wonderful that DU has members in high school and college, all the way up to people in their 70s and beyond.

I don't get all the references to contemporary films and music, and the younger folks generally aren't familiar with old movies like Animal House, but we all learn from one another.

[Obamanaut]

39. You're right. That was borderline ageist of me. But I do believe

more of the older movies have (or had) more substance than most of the new.

Or, maybe I need to get out more.

[bobbolink]

42. It also means that not everyone watches macho movies.....

[bobbolink]

41. Yes, exactly.... people who don't watch the same movies you do are hopelessly dumb.

Then you wonder why so many have given up.

[WolverineDG]

43. YAY! You found the REAL reason Coakley lost in MA!!

:eyes:

And looking down your nose at those of us who GET the reference doesn't make your shit smell any better.....

For the record, you don't have to actually watch a movie (or TV show) to recognize famous lines from them.

dg

[bobbolink]

44. Yeah, those who don't keep up with YOUR references deserve to be trashed.

THAT'S the way to build a stronger nation.

Ever so glad you discovered it.

[WolverineDG]

49. My references?

Grow the hell up & get your head out of your ass. It ain't all about you.

dg

[Make7]

52. +1

[Obamanaut]

51. Does your local library have a copy of "How to Win Friends and

Influence People"? If so, check it out, and actually read it.

edited to add this link - it has a list many resources http://www.bouldershelter.org/programs.resources.html

[LiberalEsto]

54. It just goes to show

that some folks in General Discussion will argue about anything under the sun ... even quotes from Animal House.

I like your suggestion.

Maybe the mods and/or Skinner could post something about civility toward one another on DU and step up the enforcement.

Or maybe we all need to put our heads down on our desks and take a little nap time like kids do in preschool when the tots get cranky. ;)