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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:38 PM
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Draft Alan Grayson 2012 n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:41 PM
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1. oh that's brilliant. not.
I doubt he can win re-election in this climate let alone win so much as 1 caucus in a primary contest.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:43 PM
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2. I think if some of those who are doe-eyed Republican followers actually
LISTENED to him, he might garner more support than we think. Like Perot -- appealed to a broad swatch of people.


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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:46 PM
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5. Wierdly he has a following amongst Ron Paulites because he's gone after Fed transparency.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:13 PM
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11. Exactly. people respect a real leader who deosn't back down.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:45 PM
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3. IF Obama doesn't start playing hardball with the Republicans, we may just have
to draft someone. And, as Tweety referred to Grayson, Captain Cojones is someone who might have broad appeal.

I'm still hoping Obama will see the light -- Although I love Grayson, I think Obama is better suited to the position.


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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:17 PM
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12.  I researched Grayson a bit and was really impressed with his back story too. He is a true rags to
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 02:18 PM by saracat
riches kind of guy, a real self made man.He won in a very conservative district and it seems both Dems and Repugs like him. He speaks his mind and shows no fear.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:22 PM
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15. I think we all want to be told the truth, and to know we have someone who is
fighting for our rights. Dems and Reps. Or most of us, anyway. :7
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:23 PM
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17. I wouldnt characterize FL8 as "very conservative".
It was -3 for the Dems registration wise when Grayson started. His excellent campaign organization pushed that to +1 for Dems and he won by 4%.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:26 PM
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22. Thanks for the info. The articles I read classified it as such. It was also
stated to be in a candidate bio so I just assumed that it was, having no knowlege of Florida myself.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:09 PM
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27. It's my district and I worked on the campaign and I do voter targeting for CFL candidates.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:04 PM
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30. then you know whereof you speak! I too have worked on several
congressional campaigns as well as other races and have done a lot of voter targeting! Obviously, you know the voter makeup of that district. you were really lucky to have such a great candidate.How do you think it is looking for his reelection? If he runs for his house seat and not something else? :evilgrin: Will it all depend on redistricting?
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:36 AM
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33. It's hard to say now that corporations can throw millions of dollars around like pocket change
Edited on Sat Jan-23-10 12:37 AM by ddeclue
but generally he's doing well and his opponents are a bunch of nuts who don't know what they are doing while Alan has a very excellent campaign manager that knows how to run "on the ground" races and Alan has been doing decently with fundraising.

I think in 2012 he will have a problem if we can't prevent the usual Gerrymandering that goes on here in FL but we got Fair Districts Florida on the ballot and the two leading candidates for Attorney General are both Democrats and the Gubernatorial candidate (Alex Sink) has a good chance of winning as well so I think we might be able to save Alan's seat in 2012 also.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 05:00 AM
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34. Thats wonderful! I also expect Alan is about to get a huge bump in out of state money!
But yeah, this corporate candidate thing sucks really badly. Lots of folks will be hurt. I am glad to hear than Alan isn't likely to be one of them.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:45 PM
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4. I keep saying this too and he's actually a friend of mine but he'll say NO
for 2012 at least as far as I have ever heard him discuss future plans. His only future plans are to get re-elected in 2010. Perhaps in 2012 we can talk him into running for Bill Nelson's seat if Nelson will step down in 2012.

If the Republican state legislature redistricts Alan out of a favorable district in 2011 (which is very likely) then he WILL have to make some sort of career decision if he wants to stay in politics but he doesn't "need the job" and could simply go back to private practice in any event since he is independently wealthy.

I tried to convince him he should run for Florida's senate seat when Mel Martinez stepped down last year but he said it was too soon since he had just started as a Congressman. Assuming we still have a Presidency in 2016 though, I wouldn't count him out.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:55 PM
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8. I think, if he (and we) become convinced he's the only way to keep this
country from finally going off the cliff forever, he might consider it. I say this because from my vantage point, I get the sense he has a very strong belief in what's RIGHT and what's FAIR. If the Repubs take over, we'd never see 'right' or 'fair' again. It would be a true calling, and I trust him enough that he would do the right thing.

But that's conjecture and looking ahead at what MIGHT be. We'll see how it goes. :hi:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:11 PM
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9. So far Grayson is the only one I have seen demonstrating real leadership.
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 02:12 PM by saracat
I post this because his is the example that should be followed.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:21 PM
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14. Please tell Alan that some of us were discussing his proposed corporate legislation
and I suggested, in todays climate, that entitled him to be submitted for the political Profiles in Courage Award1
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:47 PM
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6. Why not Edwards?
He has apologized. By 2012, Obama will have fucked everything up so bad that no one will care about keeping it Rielle.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:52 PM
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31. How about Edwards/Spitzer ticket
:eyes:
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:51 PM
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7. John Edwards 2012!!!
Who cares if he cheated on his cancer-stricken wife and fathered a child with Rielle.

The man can get things done, sexually and politically.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:21 PM
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13. I was an organizer for Edwards in CFL in 2007-2008 but he won't come back from this.
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 03:10 PM by ddeclue
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:24 PM
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19. Agree. I was a spokesperson for Edwards locally.This is tragic but the message was right.
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 02:29 PM by saracat
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:32 PM
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23. Yeah better to cheat on the American people with the Health Insurance giants, right?
Who cares if Obama promised us Hope and Change and delivered us the opposite.


The man can give a pretty speech, never mind that it's all just lip service.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:12 PM
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10. Weren't you a really big Hillary supporter during the primaries?
Or do I have you confused with someone else?

Because if you are the person I think you are, I'll have
to assume that your suggestion, good as it may be, is
being made for bad reasons.

Tesha
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:25 PM
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21. Big Edwards Supporter.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:23 PM
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16. god, Id be in heaven if he was the candidate
knr
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:33 PM
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24. His corporate legislation was the only bright spot in yesterday's news.
I was so proud that we had at least one congress critter who took a real stand.It likely won't pass but my god, the chutzpah it took to do that.Grayson showed real audacity and that behavior needs to be supported.And he did it with wit, intelligence and humor!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:48 PM
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28. I loved him too but he also wrote the patriot act. contradiction that one.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:23 PM
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18. for what?
:eyes:
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:04 PM
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25. I love Grayson,
and his time will come. I see him running for pres, but not now.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:05 PM
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26. I would like to see that. nt
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:01 PM
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29. I voted for him last time and will continue to do so.
Whether it be for the House, Senate, or the WH. Go AG! Keep on kicking Rep. tail. :kick:
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:00 AM
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32. Grayson/Dean 2012!
A real progressive ticket is what we need. No more DINOs or DLCers. I am going to vote for/write in a progressive in the primaries in 2012.

In the general election I will most definitely vote for Obama but at the rate he's going I will hold my nose in doing so!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 05:37 AM
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35. why doesn't he take leadership and announce he will run ?
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 05:57 AM
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36. It would work for me. What's not to like n/t
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 05:57 AM
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37. As A Central Floridian IThink Alan's Great
Edited on Sat Jan-23-10 05:57 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
He has the area Republicants in a tizzy.

But a large reason for his electoral success was his opponent, Ric Keller, was under an ethical cloud and Grayson was able to spend somw of his own miilions on a campaign.

I don't see him running for president in the near future.
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