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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:39 PM
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Californian Democrats Will Teach America a Lesson in November...
When we proudly elect Barbara Boxer back to the U.S. Senate and Jerry Brown to replace Arnold.

No teabagging out here. We may be upset with Obama, but we will be electing two uber-liberals and putting them in places of high power.

President Obama, these are the kind of Democrats you need on your side: proud liberals!




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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:40 PM
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1. We gotta GOTV though
Or it will never happen
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:40 PM
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2. I LIKE IT!
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 04:40 PM by Turbineguy
OK, I like it a lot.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:41 PM
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3. "We" are not all upset by Obama

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:44 PM
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5. Good for you, goclark.
My post is tongue in cheek, but thanks for pointing that out to "we".

Obama will be better served by outspoken proud liberals than the backstabbing blue dogs who, if they lose, will be an improvement in my eyes.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:43 PM
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4. Your picture: Boxer, Brown, Aroner. Dion Aroner.
Dion Aroner, former state assemblywoman, 14th District.

K and R for all three!

:kick:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:45 PM
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7. You noticed!
Great pic, huh?
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:45 PM
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6. And perhaps Brown can RESTORE his old free tuition for California residents for college degrees!
And remind people of the GOOD OLD DAYS when he was governor before!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:48 PM
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10. As he and his dad did!
I like how you said the GOOD OLD DAYS. Some of us remember. God, it was great.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:51 PM
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11. But, but, but UC and CSU are tuition-free*!
*-"tuition" means only the cost of professor's salaries. Everything else is now charged to students as "fees", which add up to -- roughly the cost of "tuition" at other state universities. :eyes:

I just saw a list of the top ten public higher education bargains. Not a single UC campus made the cut. :(
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:56 PM
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16. And that is really sad.
Our great UC college system, which I took advantage of a million years ago, has been eroded away after 8 years of George Deukmajian (remember that clod) and 8 years of Pete Wilson (Prop 187) and Arnold (fill in the blanks there).

The list that you mentioned and that "news" makes me sad. That really hurts young people and their dreams.

We all know out here that the UC system is a Brown Family legacy.

I am a huge Brown fan and I remember and am grateful.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:16 PM
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21. Jerry Never Repealed Tuition!
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 05:17 PM by rwenos
Jerry Brown was elected in November 1974, my senior year at UC Berkeley. I continued on in graduate school for two years after that, and then my brother attended Berkeley for three years thereafter. No reduction in tuition from Jerry! (He graduated from Berkeley back in 1962, I believe, when the "incidental fees" were $100 per quarter.)

Jerry's a tightass. Don't expect any favors for the UC System, CSUs or CC's.

On edit: "tightass."
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:41 PM
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39. One small problem
There's no money available for that.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:51 PM
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46. Hmm... India finds money to provide FREE bachelor degrees to their people!
I guess India's better off than Californians! Oh wait, California is one of the more expensive places to live with some of the wealthiest people living there! Tell me why you haven't started taxing the rich? Oh, that's right Arny, and the Republicans have you held hostage with that side effect of prop 13. THAT'S what Jerry should fix! Fix what Prop 13 has screwed up!

Tell me why we spend so much money on Iraq if we don't have money?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:45 PM
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8. Will we also kick out Feinstein?
That would be wonderful, as long as we replace her with a real liberal, not a teabagger like MA did.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:47 PM
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9. Fortunately she is not up for re-election because I can not support her again.
I don't think Feinstein will run again when her term comes up. I think she's looking to retire.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:53 PM
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12. Remember Dianne was the only CA politician
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 05:02 PM by mitchtv
who made an anti propH8 ad. The rest were in hiding. For that reason alone I stand with her. We also have a national target on Mary Bono Mack. Opposed by the Gay mayor of PSP, Steve Pougnet
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 03:01 PM
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56. Oh God! Your post just cheered me up!
I really despise her!

I've wanted Barbara Lee takes her place in the Senate for years.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:54 PM
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14. Tell her to run for the governor's office instead like SHOULD have in the recall election...
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 04:56 PM by cascadiance
Kick her upstairs out of national legislative offices! She can't be much worse than Arny, and we can get someone decent in the Senate to give us better national laws.

And if Brown can beat her ass, then we can get her out of politics altogether!
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:58 PM
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18. Good idea!
She would make a much better governator than a senator.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:53 PM
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13. Added bonus: State Dems proposing single payer again and there won't be an Arnhole to veto it. nt
:applause:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:58 PM
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17. California Single Payer and thanks to this brave, screaming liberal Democrat
Sheila Kuehl. I love her!

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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:19 PM
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22. Sheila's Big Idea
I heard Sheila lay this one out several years ago in a big public speech: "It's a simple idea. MEDICARE FOR EVERYONE."

That idea is looking better and better every day. Why are there no demonstrations in the streets of Sacramento?

PEOPLE ARE DYING.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:13 PM
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27. How 'bout that pic of her?
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 07:13 PM by David Zephyr
Sheila rules.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:39 PM
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37. The current bill will make that impossible.
:(

:nuke:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:24 PM
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50. Ah, but the current bill is dead.
And let's hope it stays dead.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:53 PM
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24. Awesome woman! We've got some good politicians, they just don't get the media attention. nt
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:38 PM
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36. Could you please export her to Colorado?
After all, you exported all your tax crap here.... YOU OWE US!

:rofl:
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:55 PM
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15. I look forward to working hard for Boxer and Brown
Let's send a message and put the right people in office.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:01 PM
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19. What if Exxon decides to pump a couple hundred million
into the Republicans campaign?
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:41 PM
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23. More like 20-30 billion.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:14 PM
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20. There's Teabagging in LA/OC
My dear fellow Democrat:

Maybe there's no teabagging in your neighborhood. There's a "Go Sarah Go" bumperstrip across the streeet from me in PV, and I see teabagging stuff all over Orange County every day.

Meanwhile, I hope you're right. Boxer is looking beatable right now, but the Pubs have nothing but midgets and RW crazies to run against her.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:58 PM
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25. how'd that prop 8 thing work out for you last year?
:shrug:
just sayin'...
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:12 PM
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26. Different dynamic entirely.
Obama won by over a million votes last year. Brown is loved here (even by Republicans) and Boxer will walk away with her re-election. Sadly, homophobia was ginned up and it raised its ugly head, yet, in spite of the millions upon millions of dollars spent, in spite of the simpy wicked television ads, it still barely passed.

Californians voted down even parental notification with minors seeking abortion.

Boxer and Brown will carry the day. It will be good for the country.

Personally, I hope we lose the blue dogs. They are worse than Republicans because they are like worms within an apple.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:29 PM
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28. Assumption is the mother of all scew-ups.
Brown was elected barely 4 days ago and the smug assuredness that we can't lose still prevails.

Unbelievable. :eyes:

Mind you... I don't follow California politics, but don't make the same mistake MA Dems made and sit back and think the race is a done deal.


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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:56 PM
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29. Confidence.
I eat and breathe California politics. We are not smug. They have really lousy candidates and ours have oodles of money and are very popular with the voters. Californians know and like Barbara and Jerry. But your word of caution is a good one, but my message is that in this despair and gloom, it will be the progressives that will carry the day in November, not the blue dogs and DLC types.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:09 PM
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30. There are HUGE Tea Parties in California
The Redding Tea Party typically gets 250 people a week at their meetings.
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merkins Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:27 PM
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31. How did Arnie get elected in the 1st place?
One of the most progressive states in the Union votes in a meat-head bodybuilder/ham actor with no governing experience to run the largest state economy in the United States. I don't get it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:30 PM
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32. Hope you can do it.
I think Barbara Boxer has the fight of her life this November.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:30 PM
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33. Barbara "don't call me ma'am" Boxer?
:eyes:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:32 PM
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34. She is one of the best Senators we have.
but what would you know?
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:33 PM
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35. She's petty, imho n/t
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:04 PM
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42. That's all you got against Boxer?
That's it?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:40 PM
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38. Nobody is going to "replace" Arnold because he is term-limited out
We'll proudly demonstrate our blind loyalty to incumbents and Heirs Apparent.
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:45 PM
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40. Boxer probably, Brown I'm not so sure about
With Meg Whitman saturating the airwaves about how great she'd be as governor due to her Ebay experience (like not bothering to pay for maintenance and back-up systems despite recommendations from the suppliers, then having a tantrum when they overloaded and went down - I was working for one of suppliers' support organizations at the time - which says to me she'll do the same thing as governor: delay spending until things get really bad and then expect the mess to be magically fixed by whining to the feds) I've already decided that if she gets the GOP nomination I'm voting for whoever is on the Democratic ticket. However, elections in this state are largely driven by media ads, and I have a feeling the Republicans are going to drag out the old Governor Moonbeam tropes and we'll end up with another right-wing wacko in charge.

There are some very liberal pockets in California, but there are also some very reactionary ones.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:50 PM
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41. That's right - Even a lot of Californians are ignorant of California politics
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 08:50 PM by slackmaster
I'm not putting any money on anyone for the Goober-Nut-Oriole race.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:07 PM
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43. You "misunderestimate" the love for Jerry in this state.
.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:05 PM
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48. No doubt, and Jerry is able to talk-rings-around whomever they put up for the loss
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:23 PM
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49. Best political portrait ever!
Thanks for posting it.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:09 PM
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44. LOVE Jerry Brown. He has been almost the only politician that hasn't dissapointed me in my lifetime.
With possibly a few other exceptions.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:25 PM
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51. I sure do like you, slampoet.
I did a lot of work for Jerry's campaigns over the years, including helping out in NYC in '92. He is the real deal. I can't wait to get out there one more time for Jerry.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:11 PM
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45. Boxer Speaks on Historic Health Care Bill
Boxer Speaks on Historic Health Care Bill


She's one of the best Senators.



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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:55 PM
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47. I sincerely hope you do just that.
While I no longer lived in CA, I voted for Boxer for many years, and would have been glad to vote for Brown if he'd been on my ballot.

May the golden state lead the way in November.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:26 PM
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52. Thank you, LWolf!
Mighty kind of you!
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WeCanWorkItOut Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:31 PM
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53. Boxer is no Jerry Brown, no Bernie Sanders. And this bill will hurt a lot of people
while it will do little to change most of the statistics she cited.

She's an ambitious woman, IMHO, who just happens to be a Democrat.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:02 PM
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54. I wish like hell I could vote for her.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 02:54 PM
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55. Dont' take this for granted, we have to work nt
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MrsCorleone Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 03:28 PM
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57. Big oil will bankroll the PR campaign against Boxer, thanks to the SC ruling.
Boxer's seat is not safe. She been up Big Oil's a$$ for eons. They want nothing more than to see her gone.

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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 04:11 PM
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58. CA Democrats are welcome to join me in voting to FREE THE WEED in November.
Heck, Republicans, too.

There will be at least one, perhaps as many as three, legalization initiatives on the ballot.
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