Question-if Haiti is a predominately Catholic Country-

[kywildcat]

where's the pope? Isn't it kind of strange that the we have yet to hear from religious leaders. I'm beginning to think that - like Pat Robertson-the pope can't stand the competition for dollars. Actual suffering cuts into the coffers.

[malaise]

1. Popey is still looking for his priests

hundreds of them are dead or missing - his archbishop is dead, his cathedral is down as are many churches and several nuns are also dead and yes Haiti is 80% catholic and the catholic status quo had no problem with the poverty or the treatment of Haitians by either France or the US.
I'll be nice and say fuck all of them.

[KingFlorez]

2. That's a good question

[hlthe2b]

3. The Haitian Archbishop and many other priests were lost....

you'd think there would be quite a bit from the Vatican... This Pope is, well, let's just say I'm not a fan.

[stray cat]

4. I haven't listened to see what the Pope said - I don't think its usually on telethons

[kywildcat]

7. telethons? he's entrusted the Haitians to the Virgin Mary

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope_entrusts_victims_of_haitian_tragedy_to_virgin_mary/

what a cult.

[fishwax]

5. I think the pope has spoken quite a bit about Haiti -- do you want him to go there or something?

That would be a tremendous distraction and diversion of resources. :shrug:

[kywildcat]

8. No-I expect a more prominent statement

from him though.

[emilyg]

10. He's made many statements.

[fishwax]

14. more prominent how?

He's made several statements and mobilized catholic charities international and issued pleas for international aid from countries around the world. He's not been silent on the issue.

[panader0]

6. The pope won't go because Haiti made a pact with the devil

and used voodoo and stuff to scare the French away and become independent before the colonialists had a chance to save their souls.

[kywildcat]

9. and it cuts into the curches profits

and their ability to pay off all those pedophile priests lawsuits.

[kwassa]

20. so you like to make up negative fantasies about the church, too?

[kwassa]

11. Here is what the Catholic Church is doing.

(This reflexive religion bashing on DU gets so tiresome. This is truly one area here where ignorance can be prized and flaunted.)

http://www.the-tidings.com/2010/012210/haitila.htm

In a major emergency response to the major earthquake in Haiti, Catholic Relief Services (CRS), the official international humanitarian agency of the U.S. Catholic Church, has made an initial commitment of $5 million for immediate use in the relief effort.

With more than 300 staff members in Haiti, CRS had prepositioned food supplies, water, mosquito resistant tents and other emergency items prior to the earthquake. These items are presently being distributed for the needs of the people of Haiti.

Pope Benedict XVI has asked Catholic Relief Services to be the Catholic Church lead aid agency in assisting Haiti. The pope has indicated that all other Catholic relief services --- including the Holy See's Cor Unum Organization --- will coordinate through CRS. Contributions to CRS will go directly and immediately to the most in need in Haiti.

http://www.georgiabulletin.org/local/2010/01/21/haitiaid/

WASHINGTON (CNS)—Baltimore-based Catholic Relief Services has been asked by the Vatican to coordinate the church’s relief and recovery efforts in earthquake-ravaged Haiti.

The Pontifical Council Cor Unum, the Vatican office that promotes and coordinates Catholic charitable giving and distributes the money the pope designates for charity, made the request of the U.S. bishops’ aid agency because of its experience and expertise in Haiti, the most impoverished nation in the Western Hemisphere.

The council said in a statement released Jan. 14 that hundreds of CRS personnel have “long been active in Haiti.”

“The past experience, expertise, and resources of CRS will enable prompt and effective coordination of the church’s efforts, which in the words of Pope Benedict, must be generous and concrete to meet the pressing needs of our Haitian brothers and sisters,” it said.

[Name removed]

13. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[madrchsod]

15. is`t that the truth...

some of the most idiotic comments i`ve read over the years are from people that hate religion. oh well to each their own.


there are people of all faiths in haiti doing what their faith asks them to do.

[EFerrari]

18. Thanks, kwassa. n/t

[undeterred]

19. Thanks for enlightening this thread with factual information.

:thumbsup:

[calico1]

23. Thank you! n/t

[AnnieBW]

27. A lot of CRS's people got wiped out

The good news is that a lot of NGOs were already in Haiti. The bad news is that they were in PaP and were affected by the quake along with everyone else.

[slampoet]

12. The current Pope had to fight efforts to elect a black pope.

The "serve the third world poor" cardinals were not the ones who selected him.

[kwassa]

16. and this has what to do with the response to Haiti?

[slampoet]

21. It's a matter of priorities. The Dominicans vs. the Jesuits. It goes back centuries.

It doesn't mean that Benedict won't or didn't help but it does tell where his priorities come from and who his people are in the polity of cardinals.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. He did on day 1... asking for help from Catholics around the world

and Catholic Charities.

[kwassa]

22. "Hundreds of U.S. Catholic parishes are 'twinned' with parishes in Haiti, "

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2010-01-20-haiti-church-volunteers_N.htm

Hundreds of U.S. Catholic parishes are 'twinned' with parishes in Haiti, with long-standing relationships and exchange visits. There are dozens of groups constantly traveling there," says Ken Hackett, president of Catholic Relief Services, one of the largest relief groups, which had 320 professionals in Haiti, a strongly Catholic country.

Catholic Relief is also part of AIDSRelief, a consortium of five institutions that administers a $500 million, five-year grant in 10 countries, including Haiti. One-third to one-half of health care delivery in the developing world is done by faith-based organizations, Hackett estimates.

Catholics are not alone in these ties. Communities from Boston to Miami with large Haitian immigrant populations have personal ties, and the Episcopal Church of the USA includes the Diocese of Haiti.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

24. Woo-hoo. A Catholic bashing thread. How original.

:rolleyes:

[TexasObserver]

25. Maybe Kanye West needs to call out Pope Ratzo.

[applegrove]

26. Religion has not been fair to Haiti. There is less birth control there

because of the catholic church. And as a result they had almost 400,000 orphans there in a country of 9 Million before the quake. Now it is even worse.

[barb162]

28. Why does the Pope have to be there?

When the tsunami hit a few years ago, should the main religious leaders have been there? Did they go there?

[sabrina 1]

29. You'd be thinking wrong then as the Pope has spoken

about Haiti. I see nothing in what he has said or in his actions to warrant even a remote comparison to him and Pat Robertson. He has encouraged Catholics to donate to various charities doing work there. And there are many Catholic Aid workers in Haiti, and always have been. Aristede eg, an orphan, was taken care of by the Salesian Fathers and provided with an education that included attending school in Israel, Canada and Europe. He speaks eight languages fluently as a result of the education he was provided with by the priests of that order who helped raise him.

Pope following Haiti tragedy

http://cnsblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/17/pope-following-haiti-tragedy/

VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict spoke about the disastrous earthquake in Haiti at his noon blessing today, expressing sadness at the death of Archbishop Joseph Miot of Port-au-Prince as well as the many others who lost their lives. As the Catholic Church takes a leading role in the recovery, the pope said he was following those efforts closely.

He has expressed his love and sadness for the people of Haiti and for the many Catholic priests and the Bishop who died in the earthquake.