How to argue Freepers that Supreme Court Ruling WRONG

[FreakinDJ]

OK - Devils Advocate here................

"Why should we overturn the Supreme Court ruling - Corporations are America's Strength. They create jobs and produce Wealth for Americans. If this strengthens Corporate America - I say it is GOOD for the country"

Let them Fly DU

just try to remember I'm on the same side and I use spell checker

[Richardo]

1. Not sure what you're getting at here, but there is no "we" overturning a Supreme Court ruling

That's why it's called the Supreme Court.

[FreakinDJ]

4. The Court that determined "Personhood" for Corporations

has a HISTORY of their rulings being overturned

They ruled that the 14th Amendment did not apply to a "Woman's Right to Vote"

They also ruled the 14th Amendment did not grant "Blacks protection from Descrimination"

What we have in this decision is the culmenation of 2 seperate and equally corrupt Supreme Courts

So in answer to your question - not only can We overturn the original Supreme Court determination granting Corporations "Personhood" it is LONG Overdue

[Richardo]

10. "WE" did not overturn SC rulings - the SC did.

[FreakinDJ]

12. The PEOPLE augued the case to overturn the rulings

[elleng]

2. They are ONE of America's strengths,

PEOPLE are America's foundational strength. Furthermore, PEOPLE create jobs and PEOPLE produce wealth; Corps are a bunch of people, who are bound together to do some particular thing which may or may not be good for the country.

[FreakinDJ]

9. How about "How many Corps have sent Jobs to China?

"Since when has sending jobs to a Communist Country equated to America's Strength"

[scheming daemons]

3. The ruling applies to corporations NOT based in the US as well

Theoretically, Chinese corporations could advertise in American political campaigns.



Secondly.. and more importantly.... the Bill of Rights was written to enumerate the rights of INDIVIDUALS.... not of non-human entities.

The first amendment applies to all HUMAN CITIZENS... and cannot be extended to non-humans. The preamble of the Constitution says "We the People"....


People.


People are the only entities granted rights in the Constitution.

[ck4829]

5. I thought everyday people; people working in farms, in factories, in offices, etc. were our strength

Guess I was wrong, huh?

[blm]

6. Most of those corporations are INTERNATIONAL. They don't want to be dependent on Mideast for oil,

and they don't want to be dependent on China for cashflow, but, that is exactly what their corporations have done for them. They will always be WalMart shoppers, because they were SET UP to always be WalMart shoppers.

THEY helped destroy little town Main Streets all over the country in favor of the WalMartization of this country. FASCISM. They helped GOP install fascism as the governing philosophy of this nation, all the while they believed they were protesting abortion and gay marriage used as a smokescreen to distract from the corporate agenda they really wanted to push through.

Democratic Republic is GONE and they helped the GOP kill it.

[FreakinDJ]

11. So this means "Foreigners can Influence our Elections?

shudder shudder shudder..........

Mid-East Foriegners
French Monkeys
Communist from China..........

Work with me folks

[blm]

13. Not just 'foreigners' but GLOBAL FASCISTS working with US FASCISTS. Seriously, what do you

THINK Poppy Bush and his brother were doing in China in the 70s when Jackson Stephens set up WalMart deal with Chinese financiers and industrialists?

WalMart was the first major test of the American PEOPLE and whether or not they would accept the tearing apart of their small towns and eventually their democratic republic, in favor of the 'international corporate domination of most every aspect of their lives' mindset aka Global Fascism.

[FreakinDJ]

15. So that includes the Communist Party of China

You know ALL those Chinese Corporations are owned and run by the Communist Government

[blm]

18. Communist government has been an illusion. They have fascist leaders, financiers, and industrialists

hiding behind the communism flag to keep their nation in lockstep. No different than OUR fascist leaders, financiers, and industrialists who used the smokescreen issues (abortion, gays) of republican party to acquire the power they needed....and got....from this ruling.

[rurallib]

7. Not me - now that corporations are people, I want to marry one

they got all the money.
I don't even care if the corporation is a male or female person. I live in Iowa where we have same sex marriage, so I can even marry a male corporation.
All I want is to taken care of by my darling corporation.
Not sure how we will consummate but but that's just a detail.

[pscot]

19. I don't want to marry them

but I would like to fuck 'em.

[FreakinDJ]

23. LOL - Infidelity Merger

Can we have multiple Corporate Mergers?

[Overseas]

8. Go for the xenophobic angle maybe. Corporations with foreign ownership

could be free to use as much of their cash as they want to on political campaigning.

[MiniMe]

14. Corporations are the "ones" who are paying their employees as little as possible

and as few benefits as possible. What they want their politicians to vote for is for as few regulations as possible and their unfettered right to make the biggest profit possible. Corps have no conscience at all, if I pay you pennies and you can't afford to live or get medical care, that is YOUR problem. They want what is good for them, they don't care about anybody else.

[FreakinDJ]

16. Corporations like the ones who caused the GREAT DEPRESSION

of 1929 and 2008

The Corporations that reduced the value of your home 60%, and took $1Trillion Dollars of Tax Payer Money to Bailout

YOU MEAN THOSE CORPORATIONS

[FreakinDJ]

17. You know this will have Rush LimpDick working overtime

in his "Pro-Corp" spew

[pscot]

20. So that would include those great patriots

at Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Citigroup and AIG. :rofl:

[FreakinDJ]

21. Worthy of Protecting no doubt

[TCJ70]

22. Corporations have no incentives for creating jobs without regulation...

...reinstate higher taxes on insane incomes with language that would encourage money be reinvested in business and employees and then you'll probably see higher wages and more jobs. How can a corporation create more jobs if all its money is going to executives and stockholders?

[FreakinDJ]

24. I saw the committee on CSPIN last night discussing exactly that

The usual RATpubliCON tools were attempting to spew their Failed Policies, but I have to admit the DEMs were making Strong Arguments in favor of limiting compensation and using Taxation as a means to fuel more sound policy and investment.

The DEMs successfully equated the lax regulatory policies and burdening Corp pay as being the leading causes of the Failure of the Monetary system as in the current economic crisis