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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 03:42 PM
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Am I mistaken, or is this generation of american conservatives
the most backward, boorish, batshit... ever? I know we've always had tools, but this latest crop has turned the US into a flaming clown car heading off a cliff.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 03:43 PM
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1. The "Moral Majority" took over that party, rendering it beyond loony
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 03:47 PM
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2. Then the newt taught nazi propaganda methods to the up & coming young pols
Forget about what is true and just keep saying what you want others to believe is true. Yammer and threaten all who dispute the yammer.

I do take a good deal of pleasure in the fact that they took his methods so much to heart that are out of his control too.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 03:56 PM
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5. Absolutely. Epitomized by the shouting mob in Florida imported from outside the state
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:45 AM
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24. That party, nothing. You should see the people who were defending panty sniffing as a legitimate way
to judge the character of our representatives on here just last night and today.

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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 03:52 PM
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3. Yes, as you said. They're "a flaming clown car heading off a cliff."
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 03:52 PM
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4. The worst of both parties merged
The rigid god and country Bircher types merged with the Democrat's racist white supremacy types, then throw in some Ayn Rand loons for good measure -

and a clown car starts to look like the one you want to flag down.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 03:02 AM
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26. A good friend told me a while ago (we were running a race communications point)
"I'm stickin' with the lunatic fringe!" Her hubby is a racing fabricator, her brother is a drag show performer - and" These cultures/groups are the only ones I see out there who care for one another, with real, genuine support"
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reformist Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 04:04 PM
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6. I think success went to their heads.

They were so enamored by Reagan's success that Republicans lost the ability to approach any issue objectively. Tax cuts worked for Reagan back in the 1980s, so that means even more tax cuts must be the answer today! Deregulation helped get the economy going in the 1980s, so obviously more deregulation is needed now!

What's even worse though, is how they have gone *beyond* Reaganism, and are now trying to attack social programs that have been in place for 75 years, since the Roosevelt Era. If they get back in power, they will dismantle not only Medicare but Social Security, unemployment insurance, the minimum wage - the entire safety net. Considering all the changes the want to implement, they really aren't conservatives at all - they are actually radicals.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 04:49 PM
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11. Yep. The founding intellectuals retired/died and the true believers and cultists took over.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 04:09 PM
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7. No, you are not mistaken ...
When growing up (I'm 48) the conservatives were motivated by greed .... now idiocy seem t o be the unifying factor. It's really very frightening.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 05:39 PM
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14. I'm older; it used to be ideology
And they were the 'loyal opposition' for the most part. They could sit down and talk issues, not stand up and shout talking points.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 04:18 PM
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8. They are definitely some special brand of stoopid..
.. but nobody seems to be able to counteract it.

What does that make us???
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 04:19 PM
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9. Ha, good question :/ (nt)
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 04:46 PM
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10. Neo-conservative =
* no sense of tradition
* no sense of conservatism
* no inclination to compromise
* knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing
* baseless power-play
* Macchiavelli on drugs
* group-think replacing individual thoughts
* extreme partisanship
* elitism on admittedly precedented yet long-forgotten levels.
(double standards)
* un-Christian approach to the world
* disregard of established precedent
* bending the law to breaking point, to get your way

* a recipe for fascism
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 05:40 PM
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15. sounds like the newt
especially after he got off AF1 in a huff at having to sit with everyone but Clinton.
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:34 AM
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22. When was that?
(Feel free to elaborate. I don't gossip, but I like to "stay informed")
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 04:52 PM
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12. Nah. We're just getting smarter
I truly believe this. Somehow experience does create smarts if you pay attention.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 04:53 PM
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13. It's been hijacked by the Fux Propaganda Network.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 07:16 PM
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16. Once upon a time, people knew the difference between conservatives and...
the lunatic fringe. Now the lunatic fringe passes for conservatives and there are virtually no real conservatives.
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Betty Karlson Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:37 AM
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23. Precisely.
Once upon a time, someone like me would have been considered a core conservative. Then the times moved one way and conservatism... the other way. The wrong way.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:47 AM
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25. Au contraire. There are still conservatives
The Republican party is the RW lunatic fringe. The conservatives have now taken over a large segment of the Democratic party.
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ldr65 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 07:48 PM
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17. I like the way You perceive things.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:53 AM
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18. It's the Home Schools, Church Schools etc
They don't get a real education and come out dumb as Garter Snakes. Maybe I'm being hard on Garter Snakes.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 02:04 AM
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19. Each year that comes along, they seem to get worse
I swear it is like some sort of cult or something. Just when I think they couldn't become more backward, boorish and hateful, they never cease to amaze me. I despair for the future of America with people like there are now within the conservative movement

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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:54 AM
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20. Republicult - it's exactly the same behavior - just look at the sputtering
and spewing of anything vile if you manage to do anything that causes them to doubt one of their talking points for the smallest bit of time. It's instant and totally out of context for the conversation - but it's the exact same reaction that other members of cults get when they first start going through a de-programming.
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:16 AM
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21. It's Clinton's Fault
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