Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Bill’s Late Father Irving Kristol: ‘My Poor Son Has Got It Wrong Again’

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 09:26 AM
Original message
Bill’s Late Father Irving Kristol: ‘My Poor Son Has Got It Wrong Again’
Bill’s Late Father Irving Kristol: ‘My Poor Son Has Got It Wrong Again’

Despite all the failures of the neoconservative movement in foreign policy over the last eight years, Newsweek writes that we are witnessing “the return of the neocons.” However, the article provides little hard evidence that neoconservative foreign policy has actually gained renewed credibility. Neocons simply “agree…that they are not about to go away.” And despite the premise of the piece, the article notes why neoconservatism is, in the words of Newsweek, “alive and well“:

“They are effectively insulated from failure,” says Stephen Walt of the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard, one of the neocons’ most frequent antagonists. “Even if you’ve totally screwed up in office and things you’ve advocated in print have failed, there are no real consequences, either professionally or politically. You go back to AEI and Weekly Standard and continue to agitate or appear on talk shows as if nothing has gone wrong at all.”

One such prominent neocon is Bill Kristol, whom Comedy Central’s Jon Stewart once asked, “Are you ever right?” But it hasn’t just been Kristol’s ideological opposites that have criticized him. According to Newsweek, neocons, other Republicans, and even his own late father have criticized him:

“He would rather take an interesting wrong position than a dull correct one,” says a longtime neocon who did not want to be named because the two are friendly. Several people who know Kristol describe his Palin boosterism—his very public campaign to persuade John McCain to put her on the Republican ticket—as a schoolboy-like infatuation, sparked when a Weekly Standard cruise docked in Juneau. <...> “Bill’s a very close friend of mine, but he does an awful lot of things just to get publicity,” says one prominent Republican who also did not want to be named for fear of offending Kristol. <...>

"Even his father had his qualms. “My poor son has got it wrong again,” he sometimes lamented to an old family friend."

Even far right-wing hawk and Fox News analyst Ralph Peters took a jab at neoconservatives. “These are men for whom too much came too easily in life, so it was all too easy for them to view our troops as mere tools to implement their visions,” he said, adding that he doesn’t consider himself a neocon. “I served in the military, didn’t go to a prep school, didn’t go to an Ivy League university, and didn’t have a trust fund. And I’m physically fit.” ... http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/23/kristol-my-poor-son-wrong/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 09:35 AM
Response to Original message
1. Ol' Possum Face born with a silver spoon up his arse.
kinda sums them (neocons) up nicely: “These are men for whom too much came too easily in life, so it was all too easy for them to view our troops as mere tools to implement their visions” .

monkey spankin' over Palin.....:rofl:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:24 AM
Response to Original message
2. The Sons of Privilege, the reason the inheritance tax need to be
reinstated and doubled.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:44 PM
Response to Original message
3. I'm glad Newsweek are actually covering them as if they are influential. Because they
have been but very little light was shone on their movement by the MSM. Good for newsweek.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:56 PM
Response to Original message
4. Dear Irving, while you burn in hell, remember one thing
Your son was never "poor." Which might explain why he's such a horse's patoot.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 10:01 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC