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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:46 AM
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Poll question: per earlier thread. Porn, use it or don't use it.
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 10:48 AM by seabeyond
i am not talking about the morality of it, cause and effect, a feminist issue, or good and bad.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:51 AM
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1. I use the porn as a conversation-starter at church.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:54 AM
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2. every morning
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:04 AM
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3. WTF does "use it" mean?
I view it. My wife and I find a good vid to be fun 'background noise' during certain activities. But do we "use it?" I dunno...do we "use" morning news shows? Do we "use" indi rock music? Do we "use" shows like Big Love and The Tudors on cable teevee? Your question in and of itself seems to speak volumes regarding what your answer is. Personally, I "use" porn the same way I "use" breakfast cereal or water or television or orange juice...it is just another one of the many aspects of my life, it is not a defining aspect.

Unrec for a ridiculous question.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 02:47 PM
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14. i see porn as a tool. for sexual stimulation. i see a vibrator as a tool and would say "use"
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 02:53 PM by seabeyond
i think the definition of porn backs my perception.

pornography: creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

i dont see the phrasing as good or bad.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 06:50 PM
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25. I'd rethink that word "tool"
.
.
.

As a mechanic, I have many tools and toolboxes.

No vibrators or the like in there . . .

However, if I had a TOY-box;

That's where such items would be stored

:silly:

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 06:56 PM
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26. more than one definition of tool
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 06:57 PM by seabeyond
5. anything used as a means of accomplishing a task or purpose: Education is a tool for success.

porn is used as a tool for sexual stimulation (again, works for me)



noun 1. an implement, esp. one held in the hand, as a hammer, saw, or file, for performing or facilitating mechanical operations.
2. any instrument of manual operation.
3. the cutting or machining part of a lathe, planer, drill, or similar machine.
4. the machine itself; a machine tool.
5. anything used as a means of accomplishing a task or purpose: Education is a tool for success.
6. a person manipulated by another for the latter's own ends; cat's-paw.
7. the design or ornament impressed upon the cover of a book.
8. Underworld Slang. a. a pistol or gun.
b. a pickpocket.

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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 03:22 PM
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18. Ha, 'The Tudors' IS soft-core porn.
Terrible history, but pretty good old-fashioned bodice-ripper/historical-costume smut and soap opera.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 03:33 PM
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19. I've never seen an episode, but my wife "uses it" regularly
:hi:

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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 04:00 PM
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20. Smart woman!
It has a lot of Jonathan Rhys-Meyers nekkid. :thumbsup:


:hi:
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:10 AM
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4. Only 30% of respondents are Women is very telling
Personally I think I lot more women "use it"' more likely READ it in the form of "Dirty Smut Paperbacks" but Political/Religious Groups have completely ignored/sanctioned the practice and "Smutty Books" are no longer considered porn

ei: Bill O'Liely's smut filled books / Liz Cheney's Smut Books
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 03:00 PM
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15. I voted that I'm female and I use porn
and my favorite kind is smutty stories. I read them AND write them. That counts, as far as I'm concerned. (Though I would certainly disagree that they have *no* artistic value beyond the prurient).

That said, I sometimes enjoy the visual kind too, very much, and certainly don't look down on it, or on people who prefer it. It's just not the type of sensory input that works best on me - no value judgement implied at all.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 04:18 PM
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23. That's a good point.
That there is such a stark division drawn between "erotica for women" and "porn for men", which I think is largely artificial and arbitrary.

Refusing to consider sexual writing in the "smut" category achieves two things:

1. It allows some people to pretend the intensity and drive (and in some cases, sheer kinky sci-fi weirdness) of women's sexual imaginations is much less than it really is, and

2. allows some women to feel morally superior, and some men to put women on a "virtuous" pedestal, because of course we're too "evolved" to like porn. Porn is that nasty stuff that gets base, bestial MEN off. What gets US off is "artistic erotica."

Bwahahahah.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:10 AM
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5. Hey! What are you calling "porn???" That there is an "artistic nude."

*** no photo posted ***
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:12 AM
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6. There are two Americas..one that can get laid.. the other that has to masturbate..
:rofl:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 03:07 PM
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17. Some do both...nt
Sid
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:13 AM
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7. I Can't Find A Needle For My Pornograph...
:evilgrin:
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:33 PM
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29. Bada BING! Seriously folks.. I'll be here all week.. please be sure to tip your servers..
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:15 PM
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8. Old Ben Franklin said something pertinent:
"Rarely use venery but for health and offspring, never to dulness, weakness, or the injury of your own or another's peace or reputation."

I'm not sure how one uses porn. You can view porn, but it's not really something you can use, except to diminish another.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:41 PM
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41. Funny statement, considering old Frank was quite the horndog.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:17 PM
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9. can't talk, 'batin . . .
god bless porn.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:18 PM
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10. Why aren't women voting here?
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 01:36 PM
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13. Melancholy
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:51 PM
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11. I use it. As an aid.
For reasons I won't go into, I don't get much sex.

I never pay for porn. If it isn't freely available online, with no sign-up, no cost, I don't use it.

I find it helpful on occasion. :shrug:
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:53 PM
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12. I'd like to know why you think this thread is relevant in any way?
:shrug:
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 03:02 PM
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16. Male, Don't use it.
I have nothing against porn and people that want to use it. I just personally don't like it or care about it.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 04:04 PM
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21. It keeps me from going on that rampage downtown.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 04:08 PM
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22. Don't use it.
Don't need it.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 04:26 PM
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24. I've actually sold a few of these bumper stickers...
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 04:26 PM by Atman
Lord knows I wouldn't put one on my own car, but some people apparently do...
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 06:57 PM
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27. taking lots of methadone daily for chronic pain really messes with your libido...
it makes porn about as exciting as being at a strip-club sober.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:00 PM
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28. .
sorry you are in so much pain, or have to take methadone to help with that pain. i hope it gets better
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 05:25 PM
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33. thanks for that.
chronic pain is a bitch.
especially when there's no 'getting better' in the cards.
the best i get to hope for is that it doesn't get any worse.
it's a condition called 'ankylosing spondylitis'- i had never heard of it until i was diagnosed with it at age 35.
(after having been mis-diagnosed for over 15 years)
it's a slow and painful 'natural' fusion of the spine.
i became fully disabled before i was 38.
i'll be 49 in two more weeks.
i've been on methadone pretty much the whole time.
along with a myriad of other drugs and potions.
but- it still beats being dead.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:21 PM
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36. i was clueless
all the posts i have read of years, for how many years..... thanks for the info. i have never heard of it, but sounds horrible. just how much we dont know about the other person and what they are going thru in life, typing on their keyboard.

i have MONTHS.... before i am 49. lol.

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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:36 PM
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30. As a wonman, I feel that porn really helps my self esteem.
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:12 PM
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34. Interesting
would you care to expand on that thought?
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:15 PM
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35. Other than misspelling woman I was being sarcastic.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:22 PM
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38. lol lol. one can never assume, but then..... nt
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 09:25 PM
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31. I'll be in my bunk.
:freak:
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:15 PM
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32. Nice post, Jayne. n/t
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:22 PM
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37. This is anonymous, right?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:32 PM
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39. In early adolescence, if I couldn't find a playboy, It'd be the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit issue
failing that, sometimes those Sears bra ads in the Sunday newspaper.

I think, back in the day, lots of men would masturbate to those WWII paintings of "pin-up girls" that they would put on the sides of bombers.

I guess my point is, define "porn". Anything someone masturbates to?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:35 PM
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40. Most women won't admit to watching porn or wanting to watch porn.
I have seen my share...most of it is totally unrealistic. But it did not traumatize me.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:40 PM
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42. I loves my porn!
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