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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:09 AM
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Poll question: Are there 67 votes in the US Senate to impeach any Supreme Court justice?
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 11:11 AM by Kurt_and_Hunter
Are there 67 votes in the US Senate to remove any current Supreme Court justice from office (aka impeach)?

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:10 AM
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1. Don't be ridiculous - there probably aren't 2 votes much less 67.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:13 AM
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4. Yes, which is the point.
The recent popularity of nonsensical arguments about how we are going to impeach and convict some Supreme Court Justices for treason are worthy of the 9/11 forum.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:15 AM
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8. How about a sarcasm smilie then?
Otherwise we're taking you at your word.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:20 AM
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14. It is a POLL. There is no word to be taken at.
Since hundreds of folks recommend posts about how we're going to impeach these guys (the only two females on the court are liberals) it is reasonable to ask whether DUers actually believe this is possible.

Asking the question is not advocacy.

Perhaps there is a widespread DU belief that we DO have 67 votes. You and I know that's absurd, but that doesn't mean everyone accepts that analysis.

That's what a poll is about... what other people say.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 02:07 PM
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37. Actually YES -asking the question IS advocacy and any politically astute person knows that.
It's push polling.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:58 PM
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42. You are utterly wrong. sorry.
A push poll is a poll whose purpose is to offer information in the questions, not really to measure opinion.

And asking a question isn't advocacy.

You might want to stop digging.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:26 PM
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47. YOU are the one doing the digging - your framing of the question clearly identifies an agenda and
tries to convince the poll taker to go along with it.

It's called "leading the witness".
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:24 AM
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16. for some reason this crap is really pissing me off.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:30 AM
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19. My crap or the other crap?
I logged on and the first thing I read was 120 recs for a delusional post redefining almost every word used to reach the conclusion that we're going to impeach a bunch of SC justices.

Meanwhile, any 5 justice majority can overturn the offending decision any time it wants.

So we need one more justice. That seems more likely to me than doing something utterly impossible.

If Obama can somehow serve two terms we might get a fifth justice... it's not sure, but it's possible.

Unlike some things.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:40 AM
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24. the other moronic crap.
the only thing stupider than david's post is the number of recs it's received.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 01:19 PM
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34. It seems like all you ever do is call other DUers names. Never Rape-Publicans. Never media whores.
Just other DUers.

Hmmm...

NGU.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 04:58 PM
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40. I'm not calling anyone a name. I'm saying a post was stupid.
and I've had plenty to say about the MSM. As for the idiots so many of you breathlessly follow. I don't. I don't watch Morning Joe or Tweety or any of that crap.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:37 AM
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23. We know that but, just the threat would show them we the people
are looking for a way to get rid of them. And there are a lot of resourceful Americans out there. That's why republicans don't like lawyers. I say threaten or go ahead. Then look for constitutional ways to block the S.O.B.'s What does it take to get a constitutional amendment to add two more.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 02:08 PM
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38. Um NO because it would fail utterly and actually strengthen them.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:47 AM
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27. Sure. But putting them ON RECORD would be a corrective aimed at the Senate itself
even more so than aimed at the criminal Court.

Let the people see.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 01:27 PM
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36. Bingo!! It opens up the debate. There's no better disinfectant than sunlight.
NGU.

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 02:08 PM
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39. It would utterly fail to even happen - it is delusional to even waste time discussing it.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:50 PM
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50. If it's a waste of time, why are you even bothering to post??
:eyes:

With attitudes like this, how can we expect our Dems to stand up for anything??

NGU.

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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:06 PM
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44. There sure as heck are the votes ...
if the Rs got hot to fire a "liberal" SC justice ...

Every stinking R, and if the fire got hot enough they could cave enough Ds ...
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:11 AM
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2. talking about Scalia?
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:12 AM
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3. Not only no
But Hell no! They quite simply don't have the cajones for something like that, even if there is a clear case for impeachment. I mean bush "served" two terms without so much as a peep from the Senate.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:14 AM
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5. these political careerists don't give a shit about this country...
if they did, they'd utilize what power they had at their disposable, instead of making excuses. They just don't care as much as they should.... frauds.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:15 AM
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6. Not even close.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:15 AM
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7. you're asking congress to turn off the money spigot?? bwahahahahahaa
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:16 AM
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9. That would require courage and integrity.
You might find one or two, maybe.
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kudzu22 Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:17 AM
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10. My guess is you can't even get ten
to vote for it. The case for impeachment is extremely weak, and to try it would just make Dems look petty and pathetic. Understand the emotion, question the tactic.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:43 AM
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25. Sure, but let's put them on record.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:18 AM
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11. 67 Senators to convict. The House impeaches.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:24 AM
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17. I am aware of that, but wanted to phrase the question for inclusion. It's a poll.
I said it correctly--remove from office--then added the parenthetical "aka impeach" for the benefit of folks who routinely conflate impeach and convict.

It's a poll, not a lesson. One cannot poll very well without including the popular (incorrect) usage.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:31 AM
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20. The 'popular' usage made for a lot of embarrassingly uninformed posts on DU from 2001-08
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 11:32 AM by Richardo
I'm afraid I take every opportunity to point out the difference. CArry on.
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JSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:52 AM
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28. And the Chief Justice presides over a Senate impeachment trial! n/t
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lefthandedlefty Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:18 AM
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12. Repugs won`t turn their on own kind
and seriously do you think any politition would bite the hand that feeds it?Why don`t we face the ugly truth polititions are only in it for the money they don`t care about us never have never will.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:32 PM
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46. It isn't JUST the Repugs. The DLC/Blue Dogs are right there with them. eom
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:20 AM
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13. You would probably get the most votes to impeach Ginsberg or Sotomayor,
one for being "liberal", the other for being Puerto Rican. But not enough to actually do it.

You would probably never be able to impeach any of the conservatives, no matter what.

mark
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:25 AM
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18. very true
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:21 AM
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15. It would not matter anyway, The Justices would just throw out the case
before it came to a vote anyway..
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:45 AM
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26. Article Two, Section Four
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:35 AM
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21. Let's wait to see what the polling shows. This decision may be so distasteful to the public
that it cannot be ignored
Remember, the Republican party includes many libertarians
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:35 AM
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22. Nah, they're all too busy
shopping for suits with bigger pockets.


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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:36 PM
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29. It would be nice if DUers would stop indulging themselves in the "impeach" fantasy world.
It didn't happen with Bush and it's not going to happen with any Supreme Court justices. Impeachment is not conviction, sadly as everyone here should know by now. Clinton was impeached but not convicted, but it's not going to even go that far this time. Just as with Bush there is absolutely no way that 67 Senators will vote to convict.

There are doubtless a big chunk of the American electorate who are not regular Republican voters who look at Democrats as having 2 songs: "Election Fraud: We Was Robbed" and "Impeach, Impeach, Impeach".

We heard the Impeach Bush drumbeat for years and now it will be the Impeach SCOTUS drumbeat. I imagine maybe someday in the future when there might be a Liberal Supreme Court then it will be the Republicans' turn to cry "impeach", but then we won't like impeachment at all, will we?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:44 PM
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33. It's conviction in the court of public opinion. If it wasn't, why would folks like you get...
...so worried when it's brought up?

NGU.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:41 PM
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30. "How can we get the votes" is the question that we should be asking ourselves
The amount of votes we have now is completely irrelevant.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:43 PM
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31. Doesn't matter. Just bringing it before the Senate will raise enough questions...
...to boost the vote count.

NGU.

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 12:44 PM
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32. LOL, who are the three who think yes?
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 01:21 PM
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35. No nt
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:46 PM
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41. Umm...they kinda have to be charged with something first.
What charge(s) do you suggest?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:01 PM
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43. No
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gleaner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:29 PM
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45. I said no ...
Not only is there a shortage of intestinal fortitude in the Senate, the Supreme Court just handed the piggy bank of unfettered campaign money. Why should they get rid of such wonderful gift givers?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:53 PM
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48. No, but it would be heartening to see a few make an effort.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:55 PM
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49. LOL- the hapless Democrats couldn't even muster the votes to block the most extreme ideologues
ever appointed to the federal bench!

Much better to be "bipartisan."
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