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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 09:15 PM
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Woman Sentenced For Ending Daughter's Pregnancy
Woman Sentenced For Ending Daughter's Pregnancy


MIRAMAR, Fla. -- A South Florida mother who ended her teenage daughter's pregnancy and dumped the fetus in the garbage will spend three years under house arrest.

A Broward County judge sentenced 39-year-old Tonuya Rainey on Friday. Rainey pleaded guilty to five felony and two misdemeanor charges, including unlawful termination of pregnancy, practicing medicine without a license, child abuse and unlawful disposal of fetal remains.

She had faced up to 26 years in prison.

Authorities say Rainey admitted giving her daughter drugs from a Miami clinic to end the pregnancy.

The daughter told police she gave birth in March 2009 over a toilet. Rainey later said she placed the fetus in a bag and dumped the body in the garbage.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/22328779/detail.html
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 09:42 PM
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1. Abortion, Republican Paradise style.
The daughter is lucky to have survived.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:34 PM
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3. I'd say the republicans are outraged by this also.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:15 AM
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11. Republicans are constantly outraged by shit they are partially, if indirectly, responsible for.
So why should this be different?

If republicans spent less time sniffing around in other peoples crotches reproductive healthcare wouldn't be in the sorry state it's in.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:54 AM
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17. Amen.
they're more worried about the fetus....not the living people....
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:39 PM
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21. So the morning after pill being over the counter is a bad thing and the republicans fault?
Not sure I'm following your logic here.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:13 AM
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14. I'll trust your judgment on that. -nt
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:36 PM
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20. Thanks.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:50 AM
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15. Sure they are
Which is why it is they are going to go out of their way to make sure things like this happen more and more often, by making legal abortion impossible and removing any chances for reproductive counselling and access to birth control.
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:33 PM
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2. Five felonies and two misdemeanors=3 years house arrest. What the hell is that about?
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:55 PM
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4. I'd say that "assault" comes in there somewhere: giving someone drugs who didn't ask for them...
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 10:56 PM by Hekate
... and causing an abortion on a woman who didn't seek one. Stuff like that.

Now, this being Florida and the Bible Belt, they've probably got some law on the books about causing the death of a fetus during commission of a crime being the murder of a person; even if the mother survives, under this scheme the fetus is a person. So that might have been one of the felonies. (This, by the way, is a wedge issue for pro-choicers like myself. It's such an emotional issue when a woman miscarries due to her being the victim of a crime that people can get swept up in the idea of punishing the perp with even more charges. However, this often overlooks the fact that the woman herself was the victim. And it adds more precedent to the idea that all fetuses should be considered legal persons, regardless of stage of gestation --> therefore, abortion = murder.)

Other than those guesses about the basis of the charges, I have no idea how they could determine house arrest.

Hekate


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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:54 AM
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18. common sense
nt
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:35 PM
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19. So drugging someone against their will doesn't deserve jail time?
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 03:06 PM
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24. not in this case
nt
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:46 AM
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25. Take 30 minutes of your life
and watch Teen Mom on MTV......fucked up in so many ways....
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:13 AM
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26. So a parent should be able to decide whether or not a juvenile has an abortion or not?
That's not much freedom of choice.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:30 AM
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27. yes
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:42 AM
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28. Ew. nt
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:59 PM
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5. I wonder why she didn't just take her daughter to get an abortion at a clinic?
I must be missing something.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:15 PM
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6. It is a horrible article
How old is the girl? Did the girl consent to the drugs? And why did they refer to the abortion as "giving birth"?
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:49 PM
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7. Earlier today a Boston channel had reported that the girl
was 16yrs.old and 24 weeks
Her mother worked in a hospital and got the drugs from a friend who also worked there.
Nothing was said about when the daughter told her mother.
The mother's defense was that she didn't want her daughter to have a child at such a young age and not continue with her education.
The mother has 3 or 4 other young children,and didn't want her daughter to follow in her footsteps.
The judge and court shrink? felt that placing the mother in jail would have dire effects on the younger children.
The young teenage girl is now in a foster home.

Just repeating what I heard.
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 11:53 PM
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8. why didn't the mother
just take her daughter to an abortion clinic then? :shrug:

Did the daughter want to have an abortion? The mother should have let her daughter make her own decision over whether to give birth or not.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:01 AM
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9. are there abortion clinics in florida? could a "regular" person find them?
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 12:03 AM by pitohui
i'm asking not telling but at this time of century i would not be able to find an abortion clinic in my state and florida doesn't exactly have the most liberal reputation?

i think it's pretty fucking obvious that the daughter didn't want a baby at age 16 but didn't know what to do or where to go -- and, as it turns out, neither did the mother

thus house arrest rather than prison

killing a fetus against the mother's will would undoubtedly require a much harsher sentence but even a judge knows that sometimes a felony ain't a felony -- she was trying to HELP her daughter

would you force your teen age daughter to carry a baby to term and change her body and damage her future forever just to keep your hands unsoiled and to save yourself from possible prosecution? or would you try to do anything to preserve your own child's future?

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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:17 AM
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12. Under certain circumstances that might be
involved in this case, i can understand the mother's actions.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:42 PM
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22. Plenty of abortion clinics in South Florida
and any one could find them. Just look in the phone book.
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orion007 Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:15 AM
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10. It's possible the mother didn't know about
it until the daughter was well past 3 months.
I think a D&C can be done up to 4 months.
After that it would be much more involved and expensive.
So, the mother might not have had the funds to take her daughter to a clinic?
It's very sad, and I wish them both a brighter future.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 11:49 AM
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29. Probably because all her friends (the protestors) would see them
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Broke In Jersey Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:47 AM
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13. its not clear in the article if...
if the daughter was unaware of the drugs or if she was in agreement with her mother.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:54 PM
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23. That's where I'm stuck with the story too.
Very poorly written article.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:53 AM
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16. Florida...
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