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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 12:50 PM Original message |
Polls that use the word "liberal" are automatically biased. |
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renegade000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. i suspect if polls were conducted on policy positions individually |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yes. nt |
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zbdent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. wasn't there an unbiased poll where the person taking the poll did it online |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. No. Pollsters try to use the same terms they've used for decades so that data |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Even if the definition has "changed"? |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Have you got a better word. |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. No. I like the word. I'm just pointing out a polling technique. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. 'Progressive' also has historic connotations that are not directly relate to today. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. 'Left' has even more negative connotations. nt |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. "he was certainly painted as one" Thus you disprove your own theory. |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Not really. How many pols or people openly refer to themselves as liberals? |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Why wouldn't they? Why are people so afraid? |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. "Tax and spend Liberals" was one of the rally cries of the Reagan crew. |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. "Limousine Liberals" was another pejorative term |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. This is not Gallup's fault and using the term is common among pollsters. nt |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Perhaps it would be more balanced if they used "neo-con" ? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. 'Neo-con' is a term that confuses too many people. It's not part of the vocabulary |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. And wingers using 'liberal' are NOT confused? nt |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Discerning the diff between a 'neo' con and a conservative is too confusing for a survey. nt |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Kinda like discerning the diff between 'liberal' and 'communist'. nt |
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reformist (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
8. 'Progressive' is the best word to use. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. Funny, I've never shied away from the word. |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Have you ever run for office? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
17. 'Liberal' & 'conservative' are parallel terms as 'lady/gentleman', 'man/woman' 'black/'white' are. |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
19. Points taken. There is no way around it. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. It's a tough call. There are too many 'progressives' out there that call themselves |
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