In clicking to one of the links from DU to youtube this morning, I went further and clicked on an old youtube FOX inteview video. It appears to be a perfect example of framing - double framing for the stupid people who eat FOX.
It's an inteview with a Dallas lawyer supposedly about church and state over the issue of placing biblical references on the illumination gunsights under contract to the U.S. of America.
1. There is no other guest to counter the argument.
2. There is no argument - it's all touchy-feeley.
3. The guest was introduced as a Dallas lawyer, nothing more.
4. The guest is part the Liberty Legal Institute.
5. The Institute appears to be all the way right on a right wing scale.
6. The head guy has advised Ted Olson.
7. The head guy is/was with the Rutherford Institute. The Rutherford Institute took a lead role in the character assassintion of Clinton - they paid for the grooming and makeover of Paula Jones and paid for a consultant-watchdog over Paula when she went on interviews. The consultant-watchdog also took interviews while a man from Rutherfore who appeared 100's of times on various stations went on about the moral craptitude of Clinton - in a legalistic way.
8. FOX did not give the affiliation of Hiram Sasser of Dallas.
I thought conservatives hated touchy-feeley stuff.
The comment on youtube by the first poster is excellent.
The FOX guy was Steve - the know nothing message runner. His question to Hiram was - did the supplier violate church and state. The answer from Hiram is that the manufacturer WAS A PRIVATE COMPANY (besides his touchy feeley answers).
"Steve Douche asked the wrong question or intentionally skews the reasoning behind trijicon-gate. The company has every right to put those markings there and sell the merchandise to anyone. However, the U.S. Govt (as the contractor) has every right to refuse to buy their merchandise since it has religious proselytizing literature. It's that simple. If you want a contract with the U.S. Govt, take the religious crap off the sights. They are smart and complied. Money comes 1st...lol."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oEtCBG6DVg&NR=1http://www.libertylegal.org/About_SeniorAttorneys.aspxIf anyone knows more about this Institure, please post.
There is info that they took the case of disallowing public library users from accessing porn on the library pc's. It sounds like they did it for the libraries. I don't have a memory of that and I am out of time for now.
I posted this mainly to show how FOX interprests 'fair and balanced'.