Toyota suspends sales and production of several vehicles

[blue_onyx]

Toyota has told its U.S. dealers to temporarily stop selling eight models with accelerators that may stick, the AP is reporting.

The company is also suspending production of the models for one week, beginning Feb. 1. Five plants in the United States and Canada will be affected.

The models are the RAV4, Corolla, Matrix, Avalon, Camry, Highlander, Tundra and Sequoia.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/01/toyota-to-suspend-sales-production-of-8-models/1

I hope some buyers will consider purchasing from the US automakers now that the myth of superior quality has been broken.

[HopeHoops]

1. Now if they would only suspend sales of the REST of the models...

...then the roads would be less congested with idiots.

[BootinUp]

2. I have been amazed at Toyota's ineptness of late. nt

[Tesha]

3. Why? The failing accelerator pedals were made in the USA by CTS. The Japanese version...

...is apparently fine. Perhaps one should make sure of the country of
origin when one buys a car?

Tesha

[DainBramaged]

5. The name on the damn car is TOYOTA NOT CTS, stop fecking defending them

NO ONE HERE knows if it is an engineering defect, a compromise made in materials by Toyota to reduce costs, NO ONE KNOWS, so stop soft balling for Toyota, they SCREWED UP.


HOW COME THE ACCELERATIOR PEDALS MADE BY CTS FOR HONDA AND NISSAN AREN'T CAUSING PROBLEMS????????


Throttle-pedal assemblies from Toyota's other supplier, Denso,

are not all interchangeable

, eliminating that as a quick-fix solution, Toyota says.

CTS also supplies throttle assemblies to Honda, Nissan and Mitsubishi. Those companies say their designs are different and pose no risk of sticking open.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2010-01-25-toyotalong_st_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

[Tesha]

6. The facts suck, don't they? All this trouble because an AMERICAN company f**ked up! (NT)

[DainBramaged]

7. You have no idea what you are talking about, stop making yourself look foolish

[itsrobert]

8. um, it was Toyota responsible for Quality Control

Or do they not supervise their low bid contracts?

[DainBramaged]

9. Don't waste your time, not worth it. The people defending them are hardly car people

just people who forget what the name of the country is they live in and do web crap instead of real work with their hands..

[blue_onyx]

12. Of course...

Toyota fans defend the company no matter what happens. That or they are interesting absent from any threads that show Toyota in a bad light.

[DainBramaged]

15. I feel sorry for the dealerships, they have to explain and calm the customers

I have good friends who own a Toyota dealership, have for over 25 years. It's a great business for them, they sell nearly 200 cars a month in spite of the recession. This will hurt them, and it will hurt everyone involved down the line. And in spite of those who defend the parent company at the expense of American companies, I say, if you have an engineering degree and are privy to Toyota's design blueprints for the throttle assembly WHICH THEY THEMSELVES CANNOT FIND A SOULTON FOR then show us how to fix it instead of saying it's the fault of the American sub-contractor, BECAUSE IF THE DENSO ASSEMBLIES WERE IDENTICAL they would easily replace the CTS one, but apparently there IS a design difference so therein lies the problem.

Additionally I'd like to welcome all current Toyota customers who are thinking about a GM or Ford product. Remember, our frames don't rust, our engines don't sludge up ,and our throttles don't stick. And don;'t give me that crap about the Vega and Pinto. That was then, this is NOW. And Toyota can't get it right.

[quakerboy]

18. I bought a Pontiac

And I may still be subject to the same problem. So the whole buy American thing is a bit bittersweet for some of us, particularly with this specific recall.

[Tesha]

22. But the mild-steel clamps holding your brake hoses do corrode, leading to brakes that...

...freeze in the "applied" position. This, BTW, happened to
the rear disc brakes on both sides of my Ford Taurus. Better
steel or better anti-corrosion treatment on that ten-cent
part would have saved two fairly expensive (and safety-endangering
repairs).

And shall I mention my neighbor's garage under their bedroom?
And what their Ford Explorer's defective cruise control release
switch did to that garage?

But hey!, no need to listen to me 'cause I'm a "Toyota fan" and
don't know shit about cars or engineering or nuthin'!

Tesha

[Tesha]

21. Strangly enough, I'm not a "Toyota fan".

I do not now own nor have ever owned a Toyota,
although I might consider a Prius someday.

Tesha

[Tesha]

20. Actually, one of the most fundamental principles of Japanese-style quality management.,,

...is that you push the requirements for quality upstream
to the ultimate supplier. You can't "inspect in" quality; you
have to design it in to your products and processes.

Toyota may have put too much faith in CTS.

They probably won't make that mistake again.

Tesha


P.S.: These same quality principles are now used
by companies around the world and not just the
Japanese (although the principles did take rather
longer to set in to US companies, and obviuously
haven't quite reaches all of them yet).

It's a shame because I tended to hold CTS in fairly
high regard as a supplier of electronic components.

[ingac70]

25. Toyota has been aware of this problem since '03. n/t

[Skink]

4. Recalling vehicles from 05 means the Bean counters must have known.

[tblue37]

10. Good thing my old Camry is a 1995 model! nt

[AwakeAtLast]

13. Mine, too.

60,000 miles and it's the best car I've ever had.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

19. I just bought a 95 Camry at the end of December. Lovely car so far. :)

[quakerboy]

11. I wonder

Will this effect the Pontiac Vibe, the identical twin of the Matrix?

[blue_onyx]

14. Well...

There probably aren't any Vibes left to be sold so the sales/production stoppage won't be an issue. But the defect does effect the Vibe.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/54427/pontiac-vibe-included-in-toyota-sticking-accelerator-recall/

[quakerboy]

16. I understood they were manufactured in seperate shops

Designed together, built apart. Could be wrong.

But if that is the case, then this would seem to be a design issue, not a quality control issue. I still tend to think its a computer program flaw, from all I've heard. The whole "Its the mats" "its the pedal" "its the pivot" seems like it might just be missing the problem. I guess time will tell. So far no problems with my car. And I figure if anything does come up, I will just pop it into neutral. Which is easy to do. At times too easy.

[LWolf]

17. I'm not in the market.

But just in case I suddenly gain a fairy godmother who showers me with funds,

which American cars are entirely manufactured, from raw materials to parts to finished product, in the U.S.?

I'll be happy to check them out.

[Tesha]

23. No car is wholely manfactured in the US from solely US materials.

For good or for ill, it's a global market these days.

Tesha

[LWolf]

24. And many of those "foreign" cars

are assembled right here, by American workers.

It makes loyalty to "American" cars problematic.

[ingac70]

26. Even the most American of American cars are 80%-90% American parts.

n/t