Woman dies at home. Ambulance too expensive. Tombstone: "I'm sure glad the GOP kept Government out

[JohnWxy]

of my health care. I died a lonely death thanks to the Corporate Lobbyist Party."

I can only wish for the same fate for those who will kill Health Care Reform. But Congressmen have great health care. They have an exchange of health insurers with many to pick from. And it's all paid for by the Government (i.e. YOU AND ME!).


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4244695&mesg_id=4244695


By the way, those of you who have health insurance now. In the next ten years health insurance will become so expensive many employers won't be able to afford it and will drop the group coverage you now enjoy. In the next ten years about one in three of those who have group insurance now will LOSE IT. HOW LUCKY DO YOU FEEL??

of course, if you have to, you can go to a hospital emergency room. They will help you. But what if they REALLY DECIDE TO TAKE GOVERNMENT OUT OF YOUR HEALTH-CARE AND THE GOVERNMENT STOPS PICKING UP THE COST OF UNCOMPENSATED CARE, FOR THE UNINSURED, AT HOSPITALS? I guess then you'll have to pay cash upfront before you can get treatment. Got a few thousand dollars in you pocket??

[MindPilot]

1. RIP = Republican Insurance Plan. n/t

[JohnWxy]

2. VERY GOOD!

[CrispyQ]

3. Excellent!

The dems are sooooooooo poor at framing! Earlier today I read a post about a DUer whose insurance company has limited the number of prescriptions of a certain medication they will cover in a month. The company determined that she couldn't possibly need more. Another DUer asked the question, "What medical school did my insurance company attend?"

Why don't the dems run with slogans like this? Back when Sarah Palin was spouting about death panels, why didn't the dems put out a great slogan like the one above? They know that the repubs are excellent at framing the debate, but a lot of that is simply that the repubs actually get out there & do it. The dems, hardly at all. I realize you can't sum up every issue in a 10 second sound bite, but, sadly, many Americans don't give much attention to politics & are hugely influenced by 10 second sound bites.

MindPilot, next time DU has a bumper sticker contest - you should enter that. I'd buy one & display it proudly! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[dflprincess]

4. But - with the high out of pockets both the House and Senate bills allow

there is nothing in the current bills pushed by the Democrats that would keep this sort of thing from happening in the future. Just as with existing insurance policies, you will still be at the mercy of a for profit company when it comes to actaully being able to get care. Nor is there anything in the bills that will keep the price of insurance from continuing to go up - you or your employer will just be required to buy it.

Any provisions that might have "kept them honest" were dropped long ago.

The only way out of the current mess is to develop a time table to expand Medicare to to all Americans.

[jtrockville]

5. Keeping for-profit insurance companies "honest" is a silly notion.

Insurance companies are not in business to garner a decent reputation, or even to provide health care. They are in business to maximize profit for their shareholders. They can do that best by minimizing the health care they pay for. This is their fiduciary obligation.

You can be sure they'd find loopholes around any regulatory provisions that might be construed (though as you point out, there are no such provisions anyway).

What a scam.

[dflprincess]

6. That's what I always thought

everytime Obama said we needed a public option to "keep them honest". There he was really just admitting that they're crooks but he was still willing to keep them as major players - now he apparently doesn't even care if they're honest, he just wants to say a bill was passed - the fact it has nothing to do with health care and everything to do with protecting the insurance companies - doesn't mean a thing.