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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 12:33 PM
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Head of DC schools says only 1 of 266 fired teachers accused of sex with children.
Edited on Thu Jan-28-10 12:38 PM by madfloridian
She even goes out of her way to stain the reputation of a few others.

But she does not apologize for harming the reputation of 266 teachers with her careless remarks.

From educator Susan Ohanian's site:

Rhee hedges remarks on laid-off teachers

D.C. Schools Chancellor Michelle A. Rhee said Tuesday that she should have moved faster to quell controversy over comments about laid-off teachers she made to a magazine, and she said only one of the 266 employees the school system dismissed last fall had been accused of sexual misconduct.

In addition, Rhee wrote in a letter to D.C. Council members, six of the laid-off employees had been suspended for using corporal punishment and two for being absent without leave "on multiple occasions." Several others, she wrote, "had egregious time and attendance records."

Rhee declined to apologize for her statement to the national business magazine Fast Company that some of the teachers laid off in October's budget cuts "had sex with children," hit them or were chronically absent without authorization. The comments emerged last week.

..."Rhee's magazine comments stunned the public school community. Parents wanted to know whether their children had been in classrooms with sexual predators or teachers who hit them. D.C. officials wondered whether laws that established teachers and school administrators as "mandatory reporters" of suspected child abuse had been ignored. Washington Teachers' Union President George Parker asked Rhee for an apology, saying she had tarnished the reputation of many teachers.


Here are the comments of Ohanian on the lack of an apology by Rhee:

Ohanian Comment: I post this because Rhee is in the national spotlight, the darling of the corporate politicos who are out to deform public education.

Even though an apology isn't enough to redress the wrong Rhee did, her unwillingness to make such an apology reveals a great character flaw. I don't think anybody should be around children who is incapable of saying, "I made a mistake. I'm sorry."

In Rhee's case that should be "I made a terrible mistake, and I will do everything possible to rectify it."

This article says she's "hedging." Obviously, this is too little and too late. Just as obviously, hedging is not admitting error and apologizing.

A teacher loses her job if she does not report suspected sex abuse.


It sounds like Michelle Rhee just tossed out a careless phrase without thinking about the reputation of teachers. It really goes a long way toward showing the lack of respect that teachers often face today.

Rhee first says teachers fired for economic reasons, then says they had sex with children or hit them.

Last summer Rhee told DC Council that economic necessity was behind the firing of 266 experienced teachers and other school personnel. Now she is telling the media that the fired teachers were miscreants, abusers, and/or child molesters. If they were child molesters or abusers, why have no police reports been filed? If they were not child molesters, why is Rhee lying to the media and slandering the 266 fired DC teachers?

..."Shortly before going on the air, Gray said he was stunned by Rhee's disclosure about sexual assaults, because she mentioned nothing about it in the October hearing on teacher layoffs, or in the course of a one-hour meeting he had with her last week.

"Educators are mandatory reporters of incidents like this," Gray said. "What she needs to do is very quickly corroborate this." If there is proof, it raises another question, he said: "Why was an alleged budget problem used as a basis for dismissing people who, according to her, engaged in abuse and sexual molestation of children?"


There is a very interesting post at the Core Knowledge blog about the Rhee controversy and the Washington Post's Bill Turque.

Who Censored the Washington Post’s Rhee Item?

This is the post I quoted recently, so I find it interesting it was modified.

Tensions flaring over Turquemakeastand?

Late night weirdness at the Washington Post, a paper that boasts arguably the best education coverage of any daily. A hard-hitting blog post by reporter Bill Turque, which took on both DC schools chancellor Michelle Rhee and his own newspaper’s editorial page, disappeared from the paper’s website for several hours, only to return with some of the more pointed turns of phrase removed.

Turque, who has clashed with Rhee over his tough reporting, has been covering the fallout from the chancellor’s latest controversial statements—a quote in Fast Company defending her dismissal of over 200 teachers last year. “I got rid of teachers who had hit children, who had had sex with children, who had missed 78 days of school. Why wouldn’t we take those things into consideration?” she told the magazine. Critics, including the head of the city council, erupted and demanded to know why Rhee didn’t say this at the time and whether law enforcement had been alerted.

Turque pressed Rhee to explain her controversial statement—how many of the 266 fired teachers had abused their positions? — and got nowhere. But on Tuesday, he read Rhee’s answer–in an editorial in his own paper. Six teachers were suspended for corporal punishment, two had been AWOL and only one faced allegations having sex with a student. The editorial cited “information released by the chancellor’s office on Monday.”

...."Sometime around 8pm last time, Turque’s piece vanished from the Post’s website. When it returned a few hours later, the phrase describing the Post’s editorials about Rhee as “protective and, at times, adoring” was gone. Other sections of the piece were similarly watered down.


Here is Turque's explanation which is now in cache.

Apparently according to the Core Knowledge blog this statement is no longer found.

Where this gets complicated is that board’s stance, and the chancellor’s obvious rapport with Jo-Ann, also means that DCPS has a guaranteed soft landing spot for uncomfortable or inconvenient disclosures–kind of a print version of the Larry King Show.


This is in the revised version.

And the current, revised version:

Where this gets complicated is that board’s stance, and the chancellor’s rapport with Jo-Ann, means that DCPS may prefer to talk to her than me.


Amazing. Those who push the corporate education agenda are protected by the corporate media.

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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 12:39 PM
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1. If she had done that with the teachers I had growing up
The union would be at war with the school district right now as we speak.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 12:40 PM
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2. She is STILL pulling it out of her ass.
Edited on Thu Jan-28-10 12:43 PM by tonysam
NONE of them were in any kind of real trouble. They were laid off--RIF'd--because of budgetary reasons.

Rhee violated the law in doing so because she went after older, senior teachers and REPLACED them with younger, cheaper ones. The latter were hired right before Rhee decided to fire the 266 teachers. The violations were pretty transparent.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 12:43 PM
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4. "REPLACED them with younger, cheaper ones" how they will save money.
They are pressuring teachers in our area who are experienced. They cost too much.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 12:51 PM
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7. They got rid of me at my district allegedly because of a FMLA form I filled out
Edited on Thu Jan-28-10 12:52 PM by tonysam
and submitted before the illness ran its course, but the HR crook was after my retirement, which I had just gotten vested in. I was making way more than a first-year teacher, though it wasn't a princely sum, certainly nothing compared to what the idiot principal and crooked HR superintendent and shyster school district's attorney were making. Then I got replaced by a "retiring" teacher who never left the school.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 12:42 PM
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3. She needs to be fired. PERIOD
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 12:45 PM
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5. She needs to go--BIG Time.
You don't slander teachers--EVER--and ruin their reputations. The media does a pretty good job of it as it is when they print names of teachers named in fraudulent lawsuits. THAT should be absolutely fucking illegal because virtually NONE have any merit.

Rhee defamed a whole group of teachers in order to score political points. She needs to go.

But will the mayor do it? Or will he cover up for her?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 01:20 PM
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10. If the Mayor appointed her he needs to go too.
Especially, after I spotted one of his EO's that required emails older than 6 months to be destroyed.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 02:25 PM
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14. Yep. n/t
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 01:32 PM
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12. Not period; she also needs to be sued to a cinder. (nt)
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 12:46 PM
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6. she Can Rot In Hell
arne can follow too.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 12:55 PM
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8. She is a truly despicable woman and is engaged to a child molester
Rhee needs to clean her own house first.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 12:56 PM
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9. That's what would be funny if it weren't tragic
for the teachers and students involved.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 01:26 PM
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11. Wow, this seems to be targeted for unrecs...
hate to think that.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:27 PM
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22. Don't have to hate to think that, Mad. It is happening to a lot of important stories
in the past week. I always noticed a small number of unrec's in important ops but they are increasing. Maybe it will be temporary.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 02:24 PM
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13. More from the cached version of the WP column....pretty heavy stuff.
I guess it was intolerable for a columnist to be that critical of Rhee, so it had to be changed.

"That's what editorial boards do. They form opinions and write about them. People can buy in.

Or not.

Where this gets complicated is that board's stance, and the chancellor's obvious rapport with Jo-Ann, also means that DCPS has a guaranteed soft landing spot for uncomfortable or inconvenient disclosures--kind of a print version of the Larry King Show. This happened last September during the flap over the out-of-boundary admission of Mayor Fenty's twin sons to Lafayette Elementary in Chevy Chase.

The chancellor repeatedly sidestepped questions about whether policies and procedures had been followed to place the kids in the coveted school. A few days after the dust settled, an editorial offered, without attribution, an "innocent explanation": the Fentys neighborhood school, West Elementary, had only one fourth grade class. Lafayette's multiple fourth-grade sections made it possible to separate the twins, which studies show is developmentally desirable.

Are Fenty and Rhee gaming the system by using the editorial page this way? Of course. Is this a healthy thing for readers of The Post? Probably not. Is it going to keep me from doing my job effectively?

Nope.


http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=%22many+of+you+may+have+noticed+something+more+than+a+tad+odd+tuesday+morning+in+our+coverage%22&d=233061417197&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=679b813e,7f3746c2

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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 02:27 PM
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15. Well, Rhee's ex-husband won the Post's
"America's Next Great Pundit" contest, so there is conflict of interest galore.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 02:30 PM
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16. The head of DC schools? And we wonder why the education
system is failing. Gee maybe she ought to think about working with teachers instead of using them as some kind of scapegoats for some pathetic hidden agenda she has.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 02:34 PM
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17. There was a HUGE write up about her in TIME right after the election..
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1862444,00.html

I remember reading about her.. and even then gathered that she was not a pleasant person to work for. Looks like that's ringing quite true.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 03:15 PM
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18. She is the face of future education policies in this country.
I had missed that article, thanks for sharing.

The ruthlessness is part of what is coming in education. There will be no tolerance for those with different learning styles and abilities.

I often think of two brothers I taught many years ago. Both had IQs that were extremely high, both were geniuses in math. Neither could read a single word no matter how much hard work and tutoring. We had people who worked with them to enable them to use their strong abilities and work around their weaknesses.

That would not happen very likely in America's education future of the type like Michelle Rhee.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 03:19 PM
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19. She, BloomKlein, and all the Eli Broad "graduates"
Edited on Thu Jan-28-10 03:23 PM by tonysam
are the future of public education, the teachers and kids be damned.

Forget Bloom's taxonomy. Forget Piaget; hell, these nitwits probably think it is a make of car.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 04:01 PM
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20. My brother was dyslexic..
and a trouble maker. He got kicked out of our catholic elementry school in 6th grade.. and by the time he was in 10th grade he dropped out all together.

Then 09/11 happend, and he decided to follow his dream and become a fire-fighter / paramedic. So, after being told he was an idiot his whole life.. he pushed himself, went back to school and got his GED, then his EMT certificate, then his full 2 year paramedic degree (studying words that are 30 letters long). He graduated top of his class..

I understand what you're saying about people learning different ways... and i'm sad to see the way things are headed.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 09:39 PM
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25. Kids are not one size fits all. They can't be taught that way at all.
It is sad to see things headed toward one test made in secret and graded secretly defining everything and everyone.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 03:32 PM
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28. The future in public education makes me wish
I had the resources to retire, or the background to be qualified to do something else.

Yet I still like spending my days with my students. :(
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 04:18 PM
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21. If clowns like her are all the public sees
of their schools, no wonder they worry.

Off to court with her.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 05:52 PM
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23. ...and only 99% of defrocked priests have had sex with kids. Which is more serious?
:crazy:
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-28-10 06:10 PM
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24. She is glaringly incompetant...
FIRE her.
This liar should be NO where around kids.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 12:08 PM
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26. K&R
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cjbgreen Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 02:16 PM
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27. Rhee and The Washington Post
One has to ask why the Post, Newsweek, Atlantic Monthly etc. are invested and have been before there were any measures? Follow the money and ask why when she lies on her resume', creates chaos, fails to report abuse, is absent from work, why is she the face of reform? Why when students leave the district, violence increases, cheating on standardized tests, lying to the public, is this the face of reform? Why is successful reform affiliated with for profit education, disregarding court orders, failure to plan strategically, this the face of reform? Follow the money, follow the connections, follow the dots! This is not about helping all children succeed! This is about ending entitlement, ending free education, ending services that support poor children, ending controls on class size, ending educating the disabled, and making a profit!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-29-10 11:01 PM
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29. Excellent post and rant.
I agree with all you said.

There is NO criticism of the new trends to turn schools over to private companies....not in the main media. They are going along for a reason I guess.

Only bloggers even mention it.

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