Why is the vile Phelps clan so fixated on gays?

[redqueen]

I know they protest military funerals for who knows what stupid hateful reason... but it seems most of their time and energy is spent obsessing about gay people and anyone who defends gay people.

Sorry, I just saw a parody of Lady Gaga's Poker Face made by one of those morons and it made me wonder about this. It's just so stupid it's sad. Homosexuality is hardly mentioned in the bible. It just doesn't make sense.

[redwitch]

1. The protests at military funerals are all about teh gay too.

Apparently God damns all of us because gay people exist.

edited to add: I have no idea why. But talk about a homosexual agenda!

[YOY]

2. When you're that hateful...methinks some severe closetry is going on.

n.t.

[pansypoo53219]

36. indeed.

somebody is afraid of being turned by those tasty tasy gays.

[MuseRider]

3. ATTENTION

That is all it ever was. Seriously, they probably do feel the way they say they do but all the Hoo Haa is about getting Daddy attention. Read his history, it has always been this way for him.

[Kievan Rus]

4. Because gays are different from them

[Jkid]

6. And gays are different from them because

1. They don't procreate "normally"
2. They don't represent real manhood in their point of view.

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[left coaster]

11. Ding Ding Ding Ding!

You got it! It's classic Psych 101 type stuff..

[annabanana]

19. His obsession reveals his shame....

Sick twisted fuck...

[Ioo]

22. BINGO

[Warpy]

7. Look at Daddy Phelps

Can we all say "latent?"

Remember, god never said anything about homosexuals and certainly didn't raise that "sin" to the level needed for a commandment. It was the priests who hated it so much.

[Rebubula]

17. Actually....

...the Old Testament is pretty freaking clear on the topic. Lev 20:13

However, the bible is simply a work of fiction designed and marketed by those that would govern people's lives.


As for Phelps...he is simply crazy and probably so deep in the closet that he has a Narnian zip code.

[Warpy]

25. Uh, who wrote Leviticus?

God didn't do that. It was the priests who were codifying tribal law.

[Rebubula]

41. LOLZ...

...God never said anything because he does not exist.

I understand your point, but to people that believe in the OT - the priests are just the mouth pieces of god. So it is the same thing.

[Raster]

35. Yep. Leviticus was also pretty damned clear about eating shellfish,

wearing mixed fiber clothing, slavery and assorted other goodies.

"...probably so deep in the closet that he has a Narnian zip code.":rofl:

[Cleita]

8. They are a convenient scapegoat to put the blame on for all the ills of the world.

Hitler did it to the Jews and gays as well. Ann Coulter and the rest of the RW nutjobs focus on liberals. The Phelps cult focuses on gays.

[HughBeaumont]

9. That's called "too little to do in life".

A real God would give all of these assholes Tertiary Syphillis. Or at the very least, put them in a world where only they exist . . . so they'd merely be shouting at each other for eternity.

[hatrack]

37. How do you know they're not already mobile Spirochete Stadiums?

One of the few plausible explanations I can find for this degree of obvious brain-death.

[HughBeaumont]

49. It's probably a plausible explanation with the adults.

With the kids/grandkids, it's probably hard isolation and fear. From what I read, Fredster in his younger days used to beat his sons with an axe handle.

[Lucy Goosey]

10. It is sad, but I wouldn't bother to look for it to make sense.

Seriously, he's a bad person, and a famewhore, and all sorts of other things, but cohesive and rational he is not.

[MuseRider]

12. Please stop

with the latent gay remarks. It is offensive as hell.

[Stuckinthebush]

38. Could you discuss the offense

I'm 100% serious because it would be helpful in a critical analytical way.

There are instances of people who push down their true feelings. Psychologically, some probably can't handle the cognitive dissonance. This dissonance makes them angry and they try to punish others who embrace their true feelings.

Right?

Thanks in advance.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

42. because its blaming the victim and excusing straight from bigotry

what your essentially saying, is that the hatred towards gays is from gays, essentially stating that straight people have no responsibility in this. if the largest amount of hatred of gays came from gays, then most of society would be homophobia free. that is hardly the case.

the few cases in which it is really internalized homophobia, stand out because of their strangeness. thats how memory works. we remember the spectacular rather than the mundane.

homophobia is a societal problem created by the majority, to blame gays for it, directly or indirectly is insulting

[leftstreet]

47. +1

Well said!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

51. thank you. having had to say in a thousand times on du. i almost have it perfect

does anyone question whether or not the KKK has internalized race issues? like they hate their inner asian or whatnot?

[leftstreet]

54. ...

You are tireless in your effort!

If just ONE person reads your words and says 'duh, I hadn't thought of it that way,' it's worth it.

:hi:

[redqueen]

50. Thanks.

I don't think many people get that. I regret starting this thread, though I should have seen it coming really.

I just saw that video and was struck by the sheer unbelievability of their shtick, and just wondered why...

[LeftinOH]

13. Everyone, everywhere & any disaster -natural or man made- is God's punishment

-9/11; the 2004 Tsumani in SE Asia; the flooding of New Orleans; the high-profile death of ANYONE, especially if there's a "gay" angle..etc. The earthquake in Haiti is probably God's punishment. The only consolation is that the Phelps "church" is mostly one family- and when Fred finally croaks, the placard waving maniacs in his family will start coming out with stories of abuse and coercion that they were forced to behave the way they do. Hopefully, the public will reject their excuses.

[redqueen]

15. A lot of mainstream holy rollers say that stuff too though...

I suppose it's just style that separates the wealthy, influential ones from the clowns.

[Union Yes]

14. Authoritarians need an enemy, always. knr nt

[eShirl]

34. +1

[arcane1]

16. They were just here in SF...

and seemed to be doing most of their protesting infront of Jewish-related buildings, for some reason.

I think they hate everyone.

[MuseRider]

20. That is it.

They pick the most attention getting groups they can get away with being vile about and ride it into the ground. Before that he was scamming the black community here getting a name for himself as a civil rights attorney. It is as convoluted as you can imagine.

[Bitwit1234]

18. In my mind I can't see why anybody would object to a gay person

I think people have a right to be what they want, and do what they want with their lives, as long as they don't injure anybody else.

You know the old saying about people....I think they do protest too much. It seems those that protest too much about something must have a secret yearning in the back of their mind to be that.

[WilmywoodNCparalegal]

21. What do Teh Gays have to do with swimming???

Michael Phelps can swim in his own lane if he doesn't like gay people

:hide:

:sarcasm:

[MineralMan]

23. Secret, hidden longings?

[Taverner]

24. Because "Rev" Fred Phelps is in the closet

And he has so much self loathing, that his cup runneth over...

[Lydia Leftcoast]

27. And he's a self-appointed "Reverend"

A seminary dropout, not actually ordained by any church except the one he founded.

[KamaAina]

40. And now he gets to go back to SF!

Time to load up on gay porn down on lower Polk St.

Seriesly, there have been Phelps sightings down there. This is not another one of those "he's a homophobic repuke so he must be gay" posts.

[donco6]

26. Looking at it from a behaviorist approach -

Somehow they get positive strokes for all this. They MUST be making money on it - otherwise they couldn't afford to eschew actual employment to jet set around the country to protests. How are they making money? There are plenty of people in this country who hate gays and applaud the Phelps' efforts. Why do THEY hate gays? They're part of a club of religion that promotes and rewards this thinking. The more virulent you are, the more "spiritual" you are. It really all comes down to religion at some point.

[arthritisR_US]

28. they are in fear of their latent homosexual tendencies. n/t

[chelsea0011]

29. Because hate is so much easier than love

[Cirque du So-What]

30. I believe the whole 'church' thing is just a scam

Phelps was originally a lawyer, and there are several more in his extended family. I believe they're taking an aggressive stance in order to provoke individuals, groups & municipalities into retaliating against them, enabling them to file lawsuits for violations of their civil rights. I'm grateful that nobody has attacked them with axe handles, turned fire hoses on them, or sicced dogs on them, as they'd stand a chance of winning big awards in court that would finance even more opportunities for lawsuits.

I believe they chose homophobia as their public persona because it inflames passions against their bigotry, and they're hoping for overreaction that could make money for them. Also, their organization is structured as a 'church,' so their property isn't taxed. It's all about the money, and the anti-gay rhetoric is merely a means to an end.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

46. i too believe the antigay rhetoric is for some less divine purpose

my bet was fame, but money works too

[ChickMagic]

31. Because he thinks they are HOT!

And that bothers him.

[Tailormyst]

32. Phelps is mentally ill and has brought his children up marinated in his craziness.

[eShirl]

33. He just can't stop thinking about them, and "what they do to each other," in vivid detail.

[asdjrocky]

39. Self hatred? Just a guess.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

43. its easy to blame the gays, most people do. nt

[salguine]

44. Maybe the most extreme case of self-loathing ever?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

45. Why is the KKK so fixated on race? are they all internally black? do they have problems

acknowledging their internal asian? are they secretly ashamed of their internal jew?

:eyes:

[eShirl]

58. classic inferiority complex

with overcompensation

[jmowreader]

48. They read Leviticus 20, which is seriously bloodthirsty

All these people need to be whacked, according to Lev. 20:

Anyone who curses his mom or dad

Both partners in these adulterous relationships: another man's wife, your father's wife (there's enough reference in Leviticus 18 to the split between "your mother" and "your father's wife" to suggest plural marriage was VERY common back then), your daughter-in-law

Teh Gay

Marrying your wife's mom will get all three of you killed.

Bestiality gets you and the animal killed. No word on whether you can eat the animal, though. I assume not.

Marrying the daughter of either your father or your mother gets you and her run out of town. Don't have sex with her either.

Earning your Red Wings gets the two of you run out of town.

No eating unclean animals.

Kill any mediums or spiritists by stoning.

And yes, the Phelps version of Poker Face is pretty funny...especially where she sings "you ain't got" and it sounds like "you hate God."

[arcane1]

52. Damn, they are even taunting students who committed suicide

vile, vile indeed

http://www.mercurynews.com/twitter/ci_14295198?source=rss&nclick_check=1

[La Lioness Priyanka]

53. ...

:hi: :P

[arcane1]

55. right back at ya

:P :hi:

[madokie]

56. 'cause the ole man is in denial

be my guess.

[laylah]

57. Because they are closet

gays themselves. Self hatred is what drives them, via Phelps, IMVHO.

[LynneSin]

59. I'm guessing he is gay

and it's been ingrained in him forever that homosexuality is a sin that he needs to do these horrible things constantly to remind himself to keep himself from doing what is in his nature.

[anonymous171]

60. I am convinced that he is a troll and nothing more. nt

[MuseRider]

61. You asked an honest question

so don't feel bad about it. I saw up thread that you wished you had not opened it up. I find it unbelievable that educated people can not or will not see the harm they do making these stupid comments. I can not understand why every single one of those posts has not been deleted. Anyway, I wanted to say hello to you. :hi:

[Odin2005]

62. He makes his money by inciting people to attack him and then suing the attackers.

He's a scam artist.