Personally, I don't think the 'guilty' conviction for Roeder is enough!

[LynneSin]

Operation Rescue along with other extremist anti-abortion groups have been using violent tactics for decades. When a group uses violence against another group of people, to me that is TERRORISM pure and simple. Operation Rescue has been encouraging terrorism for decades using tactics such as murder and firebombing against innocent people.

I think we need to go after Operation Rescue and put them out of business. It's one thing if they want to stand outside of a clinic and peacefully protest. But Roeder, a member of Operation Rescue, even admitted to stalking Dr. Tiller for years and said he admired the woman who had used gun violence against Tiller a few years prior.

Putting Roeder behind bars will only inspire more nutjobs like him thru the help of Operation Rescue. Time to go after them for the terrorists that they are. I see no difference between Operation Rescue and groups like the Taliban or Al Qaeda. They are all terrorists who will use violence against innocent people in hopes of promoting their cause.

[left coaster]

1. I have to say that I agree, absolutely..

The man is a terrorist and a murderer.. I think that the death penalty is appropriate in this case.

[Stinky The Clown]

2. I totally agree.

[KansDem]

3. You know, I was thinking the same thing!

Consider this statement reported from the trial:

Roeder testified that he considered elaborate schemes to stop the doctor, including chopping off his hands, crashing a car into him or sneaking into his home to kill him.

But in the end, Roeder told jurors, the easiest way was to walk into Tiller's church, put a gun to the man's forehead and pull the trigger.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35103652/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

"Chopping off his hands?" Sound like the punishment of any...oh...particular group of religious fanatics...operating today?

Did he think this up all by himself? And how much will this crime be investigated?

[cali]

4. I wish people would keep up. while I detest Operation Rescue

they have consistently repudiated any violence against clinics or doctors. they have done so for years. Randall Terry is another story, but he hasn't had anything to do with Operation Rescue for over a decade and they've condemned him repeatedly. there are no grounds to prosecute Operation Rescue.

[RaleighNCDUer]

8. I suppose you never considered the possibility that Operation Rescue

might LIE?

EVERY anti-choice terrorist convicted of violence against doctors or clinics has had direct ties to Operation Rescue.

They are a criminal conspiracy.

[cali]

10. every anti-choice terrorist is connected with operation rescue?

where's the evidence of that?

look, I deplore the organization, but I'd have to see real evidence that operation rescue is complicit with violence against docs and clinics.

this is what they said about Roeder:

Operation Rescue released the following statement, attributable to Troy Newman, President:

Scott Roeder has never been a member, contributor, or volunteer with Operation Rescue. Mr. Roeder may have posted to our open blog web site, as have thousands of members of the public, including those with pro-abortion views, but he is not affiliated with this organization.

We deplore the criminal actions with which Mr. Roeder is accused.

The pro-life ethic is to value all human life from the moment of conception until natural death. Operation Rescue has diligently and successfully worked for years through peaceful, legal means, and through the proper channels to see to it that abortionists around the nation are brought to justice. Without due process, there can be no justice.

In spite of these horrific events, we remain dedicated to working through all peaceful and legal means available to bring an end to the killing of innocent children through abortion.


they suck, but that doesn't automatically mean that they're a criminal organization.

[LynneSin]

11. Of course they are going to release a statement like that

But they breed hatred. They knew about this guy for ages. If they really wanted to disassociate themselves from these kind of fanatics they would have turned him in ages ago.

[EFerrari]

19. Operation Rescue adviser helped Tiller suspect track doctor's court dates

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/256/story/69361.html

Suspect in Tiller's death supported killing abortion providers, friends say

He was part of the One Supreme Court, a Freemen group based out of Shawnee County," James said. "He was fanatic about a lot of things. I went to one of his court appearances and thought, 'This guy is dangerous.' There were a lot of red flags that came up about him."

In recent years, someone using the name Scott Roeder has posted anti-Tiller comments on various Internet sites. One post, dated Sept. 3, 2007 and placed on a site sponsored by Operation Rescue called chargetiller.com, said that Tiller needed to be "stopped."

"It seems as though what is happening in Kansas could be compared to the 'lawlessness' which is spoken of in the Bible," it said. "Tiller is the concentration camp 'Mengele' of our day and needs to be stopped before he and those who protect him bring judgment upon our nation."

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/69151.html


Operation Rescue Tries To Distance Itself From Roeder’s Activities On Behalf Of The Group

Roeder, in fact, had been an active member of the Operation Rescue community and used the group as a platform for his vigilantism. (Authorities found a Post-It note with the group’s phone number in his car after the shooting.) This morning, Operation Rescue President Troy Newman issued a new statement, trying to distance his group even further from Roeder’s actions:

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/01/roeder-operation-rescue/

The Scott Roeder and Operation Rescue Connection

Rachel Maddow does a disturbing story about the connection between George Tiller's accused murderer Scott Roeder and Cheryl Sullenger of Operation Rescue. Sullenger originally denied knowing Roeder. Evidence later forced Sullenger to admit she had several telephone calls with Roeder. Sullenger used her Twitter account to track Dr. Tiller.

http://pushingrope.blogspot.com/2009/06/scott-roeder-and-operation-rescue.html

They're in it up to their eyeballs, imho.

[LynneSin]

21. Eyeballs? Only that high?

I say their are drowning in that mess.

[Change Happens]

5. He should be killed too...Does he get the Death Panelty?

I think his Bible may call for something like an eye for an eye?

[ShortnFiery]

6. NO, I disagree. He's convicted of 1st Degree Murder, show him something the right wing

can't fathom: Mercy. Let him spend the rest of his miserable life, NOT as a martyr, but as a sad little man who used violence instead of what JESUS would have wanted, i.e., compassion and good-works.

[EFerrari]

7. Iirc, he met with a group of them the day he murdered the doctor.

I'm with you, Lynne. That's terrorism.

[LynneSin]

14. And as much as I see Cali's point that was posted above...

Operation Rescues knows these lunatics are a part of their organization. This guy was stalking Tiller since 1999 and they did NOTHING! And you can't tell me that in the 10 years that Roeder was stalking Tiller that he didn't tell one person within the OR organization about how he wants to murder Dr. Tiller.

Let's say everyday I came to DU I post a death threat against someone. "I want to kill Mr. X", "I am going to chop Mr. X's hands off", "We need to stop Mr. X", "Mr X must die", "I followed Mr X to the dry cleaners and grocery store today" etc. etc. Say I did that for YEARS...don't you think the admins would have my account either locked and/or turned into the authorities to confirm I'm not some psychotic out there wanting to make real on my threats. And if they didn't, shouldn't DU be held accountable for allowing my death threats to ramble on for years without any intervention whatsoever? Operation Rescue should be help accountable. They knew this nut job was out there making threats and did nothing to stop him.

BTW, Mr X is a totally fictious person who I have absolutely no gripes against. I'm a 'live and let live' kinda gal.

[EFerrari]

15. What I was getting at is not only did OR not try to rein him in

they may have been involved in the crime itself because it is known that he met with them that day.

[JuniperLea]

18. That puts them in cahoots in my book...

Knowing, but doing nothing, renders them culpable.

[asjr]

9. Do you think Roeder will go to the

Appeals Court with a plea of insanity?

[LynneSin]

12. Why not, there has to be some friend Bush/Reagan appointed judges out there

seriously

[malaise]

13. He and the rest of murderers must know that

they will spend the rest of their lives in prison. Roeder will be eligible for parole after a minimum of 50 years (if the desired sentence is handed down). He'll be 101 years by them.

The Operation Rescue leaders should be charged as accomplices.

[defendandprotect]

16. Of course not -- there should be a full investigation of Operation Resuce and those

who have supported these murders --

Domestic terrorism --

Certainly this didn't happen out of this man's own delusions!!

[JuniperLea]

17. They are a terrorist organisation...

Roeder is now their martyr... time to put them out of business, no question.

God told the rat bastards that killing is wrong, and that vengence belongs to him... they need to learn this hard lesson in prison. They need a price on their heads... and this is a hate crime.

[WeDidIt]

20. The DOJ refuses to talk about this case

as it is still under investigation.