Educate this DUer, what does Bolshevik Plot means??

[Sebass1271]

what does the president was referring to when he made that statement?? or said that word. I have never heard that expression before!

[Sebastian Doyle]

1. Bolsheviks were the Russian revolutionaries

In other words, he's referring to the fact that the right wing calls him a "communist".

[NoPasaran]

2. Lenin's tomb

[eleny]

6. It took a second but... LOL!

[Robb]

9. OMG

OK, that was funny. :D

[BrklynLiberal]

14. EXCELLENT! Perhaps even a DUzy!

[tularetom]

26. There are still DUzy's?

As usual I'm out o touch.

[Subdivisions]

41. They are back and brought to you now by Ghost in the Machine --->

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=7603229

[proteus_lives]

39. Shhh! You'll wake him up!

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[malaise]

44. DUzy

:rofl:

[Hamlette]

3. communist

is the short answer. You could google bolshevik if you want to know more.

[virgogal]

4. Better brush up on your Russian history.

[secondwind]

5. Remember the Russian Czar Nicholas? The Bolsheviks were his enemies.....

God, I hope I'm right about this!

[mix]

7. a revolutionary conspiracy, iow

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. Didn't take history in school, I guess?

The Bolsheviks were the guys that started the Russian Revolution. The origin of the Soviet Communist Party.

[t0dd]

32. Didn't learn common decency as an adolescent?

Someone can't even ask a question here without being stomped on and accused of being ignorant to all of history.. :eyes:

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

43. Sorry, didn't mean to be snarky -- just surprised somebody didn't know

what the Bolsheviks were. Maybe the problem is the schools aren't teaching history any more.

[Enthusiast]

49. As if not teaching history

any more is not bad enough, Texas wants to teach revised history that depicts conservatives in a more positive light while ignoring the contributions of progressives. And yes, it is gaining traction.

[johnnie]

37. Please be nice

They asked a question to get educated. Not everyone is a Velveteen Ocelot.

[Warren Stupidity]

10. The looney toon right in the 50's and 60's

saw everything liberal as a bolshevik plot - as a scheme to slip COMMUNISM in under the door. McCarthy (Joe not Gene) made a career out of alleged bolshevik plots, as did Nixon. The UN was a bolshevik plot, fluoride was a bolshevik plot, civil rights was a huge bolshevik plot, and most certainly the entire New Deal was one big communist trick.

plus ca change...

[Enthusiast]

50. Oh, I remember our

neighbor lady in the 1960s telling me with great conviction that Martin Luther King was a communist. Everyone to the left of Attila the Hun was a communist in those days.

I remember when WWII hero George McGovern was considered communist when he ran for president.

[fadedrose]

11. Bolsheviks overthrew Russia's royalty

and started communism following Lenin's teachings & others...

1917 . . .

[Warren Stupidity]

28. Actually the Bolsheviks overthrew a democratic government

that had been established after a popular uprising not lead by Lenin's faction of the Communist Party.

[Strelnikov_]

35. And they were just one of many opposition 'parties'. They grabbed the opportunity

offered by the vacuum created by the failure of the Kerensky government.

The way they grabbed power should be a warning from history.

[FarCenter]

12. Bolshevik

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolshevik

The Bolsheviks, founded by Vladimir Lenin, were an organization of professional revolutionaries under a democratic internal hierarchy governed by the principle of democratic centralism, who considered themselves as the vanguard of the revolutionary working class of Russia. Their beliefs and practices were often referred to as Bolshevism. Bolshevik revolutionary leader Leon Trotsky frequently used the terms "Bolshevism" and "Bolshevist" after his exile from the Soviet Union to differentiate between what he saw as true Leninism and the regime within the state and the party which arose under Stalin.

I think it also implies a system that believes that the working class cannot establish socialism by themselves, but that an elite cadre of intelligentsia are required to develop the socialist conscience of the proletariat.

[grantcart]

13. after the Russian Monarchy collapsed revolutionary and democratic socialist

parties combined to form an interim government in Russia.

When they agreed to continue participation in WWI (it was almost over and they were worried that if they did not stay in that they would lose huge amounts of territory) they lost support of the Russian masses and the government collapsed.

The Bolsheviks ( a small faction of the Communist Party but ironically name "the majority group") sent armed guards to key government facilities and took over the government basically without a fight.

They then signed an armistice with the Germans and installed one party Communist rule in Russia.

[alcibiades_mystery]

42. The civil war lasted at least three years, and some put it at five

Just sayin'...

[JVS]

15. Let me google that for you

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bolshevik&l=1

[The Midway Rebel]

16. commies, pinkos, reds, Stalinists, Leninists, Marxists, the red menace,

vanguards of the revolution, kill whitey type mofo's, leftists, lefty, invasion, subversive, boogie man....BOO!

[Jamastiene]

17. It means the Republicans seem to think he is a communist.

You can read deeper into it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolshevik

[Sebass1271]

23. thanks. never heard that term. I am learning from our president

and duers...

[Jamastiene]

29. I'm still learning too.

We all are really. :toast:

[enlightenment]

33. Kudos for asking the question - not everyone would

have the courage to say 'I don't know' (and those are words that open the doors of knowledge). :thumbsup:

This website is a portal with links to more information on the Russian Revolution (and many other historical topics. It's well worth a browse!)

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/modsbook39.html

[TankLV]

40. Really? You've never heard the term?!!!

That's just part of BASIC KNOWLEDGE!!!

But you know who won American Idol, right?

amazing...

[Sebass1271]

25. something that some of those REPS republicans should do

too obviously!.. i mean, the president had clearly more knowledge on every single item than they seemed to have. They tried to "cofront" him with questions where maybe they thought he wasn't going to know the answer and the president just schooled them.

I am very proud of him. very proud i voted for him.

[Ikonoklast]

18. Monarchists think that everyone that isn't a Monarchist

is a Bolshevik, and needs killin'.

[Diclotican]

24. Ikonoklast

Ikonoklast

Monarchists think that everyone that isn't a Monarchist
is a Bolshevik, and needs killin'

Wrong, wrong and then some wrong.. Most modern Monarhist accept that some are against the Moharcy, but as long as Monarcy have the support of most of an population, or are not sqrewing to mutch up it tend to be okay with it...

But our Royal Familiy was not wisiting USSR on state wisit, mostly becouse our first modern King HAAKON 7 was in family with the russian tsar, and therefore made the promise that no royal familiy member should wisit Soviet as long as the comunist was in charge.. I then guess he dosen't belived them to be there so long as they did... Thing first time they wisited Russia was in 1994 or something like that - first monarch from our kindom to wisit Russia for more than 500 year...

Diclotican

[Ikonoklast]

30. The ones in the White Army certainly did.

When there is Revolution in the air, the Old Guard will always fall back and defend the status quo; after all, that is their meal ticket.

And I have nothing against a Constitutional Monarchy; King Juan Carlos of Spain has done a decent job of bringing together a country long divided by years of bitter political conflict.

But absolute monarchs that believe that they have a Divine mandate, need a good killin'.

[grantcart]

31. In the 80's working in refugee affairs in SE Asia I was stunned to learn

that we were still aiding and moving "white Russians" who fled to China as children. They were in their 80s and being resettled!

[Ikonoklast]

34. Wow, I vaguely remember reading about that, a long time ago.

I'll have to google around and see what comes up.

History is not that too far removed from the present.

[sharesunited]

19. I think the "Plot" part of that term is a U.S. reactionary smear from the 1920s

when influence from the Russian Revolution was feared to be infecting the labor movement in this country.

Obama was poking fun at the right wing, making fun of one of their ancient bugaboos.

[smalll]

20. Its a Chicago thing. Was a Lou Bolshevik who had a little pocket farm in the 1880s, 1890s

quite close into the center of the booming city. He was offered a cool million dollars (which back then was astoundingly real money) to sell his plot -- there were plans for a new McKim, Mead and White skyscraper -- but Lou wouldn't sell.

The thing was, from then on, none of his crops would grow -- and he didn't give up, when beans failed, he planted corn, when that failed, he tried tomatoes. He tried everything, but nothing worked. The scorned developer hired some hoods to poison his fields at night - old Lou never caught them - and he never caught on to what was happening, or wouldn't listen to anyone. He ended up dying on his plot, I think around 1910 or so?

Anyway, I guess Obama was saying that the Republicans have been saying that his Health Care plan is like Bolshevik's plot -- he wants them to try to farm it, but is secretly planning to make sure the whole thing never works -- maybe so they'll give up and let him go single payer? Who knows what those Republicans are thinking!

[Sebass1271]

21. Thank you guys. I do have to refresh on my russian history.

I am young and certaintly didn't know about nixon and right wingers calling everything "lefty" or progressive bolshevisms!!.

[johnnie]

38. Don't worry about it

Some here expect all to be super duper know-it-all walking encyclopedic blow-hards. Don't be afraid to ask questions.

[Walk away]

22. Ninotchka before she drank champagne. .... nt

[madinmaryland]

27. Well, from what I understand, Bellichek was caught video taping

the other team, illegally during a game.

So I heard in the Sports Forum.

:shrug:

[Jeffersons Ghost]

36. it means that you just took me for a walk down memory lane

[DefenseLawyer]

45. Ice cream, Mandrake! Children's ice cream! n/t

[hobbit709]

46. I considered myself more of a Menshevik than a Bolshevik.

[DailyGrind51]

47. Where Sam Bolshevik is buried? ;-}

[elocs]

48. To be honest, Google is your friend. You could have found your answer in a few minutes that way. nt

[Enthusiast]

51. For a stunningly beautiful

movie dealing with this subject matter watch Doctor Zhivago.