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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 07:26 PM
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Won't someone please call a Waahmbulance for these poor little sociopaths?
Those living on the virulent edge of the anti-abortion movement pinned their hopes on Scott Roeder.

Testifying in his own defense, a remorseless and resolute Roeder insisted he had committed a justified act for the defense of unborn children by killing Dr. George Tiller, one of the country's few physicians to offer late-term abortions. It was a bold legal strategy that, if successful, had the potential to radically alter the debate over abortion by reducing the price for committing such an act of violence.

When it failed, those who share Roeder's passionate, militant belief against abortion were outraged: One said they are getting tired of being treated as a "piece of dirt" unable to express the reasons for such acts in court. So while relieved at the outcome, abortion-rights advocates worry a verdict that should be a deterrent will instead further embolden those prone to violence.

http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/9000/10145109/Conviction_angers_anti-abortion_militants

If you think violence and threats of violence are opinions, then may I kindly suggest putting down the pipe bomb and picking up a dictionary instead?
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 08:36 PM
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1. Basically they are both violence. Third term abortions are "viable" people.
It's still no excuse to kill the doctor and I believe in first/second term abortion, just not third.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 08:58 PM
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2. I believe a Woman has full control over her body. Period.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 09:05 PM
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3. The life and health of the mother comes first. Period.
Many late-term abortions are done because the fetus is NOT viable and/or is seriously malformed AND giving birth under the circumstances places the mother at high risk.

I can't give a link but I am sure that very few late-term abortions are done because the mother suddenly decides she doesn't want to have a kid. Sure, there are situations, but that would not be the rule. A woman who is pregnant will terminate it much earlier if that's what she wants to do. Assuming of course that she has the access to do so.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 01:54 AM
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13. Exactly. Dr. Tiller was the wrong target for Roeder's murderous political statement.
Tiller did not perform abortions on normal pregnancies.

He did the nightmare cases, like where a woman learns she has cancer late into her pregnancy, needs chemo immediately, but the chemo will kill the baby, and at the same time, if she waits for the baby to term, the cancer will kill them both. Or the case of the 9-year-old girl pregnant due to violent incest, or fetuses with anencephaly that will not survive after birth, but if allowed to come to term, will endanger the mother.

Nightmare cases, where the doctor and patient must make a horrible decision to save the life of the mother.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 09:40 PM
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4. WTF EVER - Not Always Einstein
no fucking text
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:14 PM
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5. third is done for serious
medical conditions in either the mother or child. It is a different set of circumstances that first or second.

It is getting so bad that alot of doctors will not even remove dead fetuses for fear of angering the nut cases and getting killed.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:00 PM
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8. That's horrible
What happens to the women? Are they able to find another doctor willing to help them?
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 04:09 PM
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15. in the articles
I have read on this the women are told to wait until the fetus is expelled naturally but that risks infection and other complications. They certainly suffer psychologically as well.
One woman in the article was able to go to another state to have the fetus removed.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:17 PM
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6. If they're viable, why aren't they born after the second trimester?
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 12:22 AM
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9. so you would rather that the woman dies because she is carrying a dangerous pregnancy?
nice going. perhaps you ought to do some reading on late term abortions--they aren't done for the hell of it, in case you didn't know this.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 01:29 AM
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11. Then you are certainly free to not have one. Wouldn't it be a good thing
if women in an incredibly stressful situation were free to make their own choices without interference in their lives?

I guess that some people feel their opinions are so damn important they must inflict then on others. I hope you are spared the misery of having to make such a decision yourself.

mark
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 01:36 AM
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12. I support aborting pregnancies that will result in people who post dumb things on the internet.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 06:39 AM
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14. Are you really
sure you know what you're talking about?

Third term abortions are usually for fetuses that have severe anomalies/deformities/disabilities, no chance of viability outside the womb, have already died inside the womb, or that have become dangerous or deadly leeches to the woman.

What would you have these women do under the circumstances? Do tell.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:32 PM
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7. Here's another Kick and Rec
try controlling your own body, you whack jobs.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 12:23 AM
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10. and another kick and rec
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