Haiti arrests US nationals over child 'abductions'

[malaise]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8489738.stm
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Haitian police have arrested 10 US nationals on suspicion of trying to illegally take 33 children abroad.

They say the Americans were held on the border with the Dominican Republic.

The group from Idaho-based charity New Life Children's Refuge told the BBC they wanted to take quake orphans to an orphanage in the Dominican Republic.

They said they thought they had had a permission to travel to the Dominican Republic.

"This is an abduction, not an adoption," Haitian Social Affairs Minister Yves Christallin was quoted as saying by the AFP news agency.

"What is important for us in Haiti is that a child needs to have an authorisation from this ministry to leave the country," Mr Christallin said.
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Anyone from Idaho claiming to adopt black children should raise eyebrows.
BBC international said the group has links to the Central Valley Baptist Church. Please help with info on that Fundie group.
More criminals hide using religion than anywhere else.

[muriel_volestrangler]

1. Well, they call themselves 'conservative'

Henry, who served in Minnesota and Wisconsin before becoming Central Valley's pastor 15 years ago, said church members' traditional social values fit well with an area heavily populated by Latter-day Saints, or Mormons. New Christians, some former Mormons, make up about a third of the congregation.

"Our conservative values match much better here than in the Midwest," Henry said.

http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/BPnews.asp?ID=31567

I mean, the mid-west is so radical, isn't it?

Maybe this is normal for rural American churches, but it seems bizarre to me:

"The church's newly minted Solid Rock Outdoorsmen is the only hunter's education class of its kind in the area, providing the men a ministry service opportunity in helping participants learn to call elk, tie flies for fishing and garner other outdoor sports skills."

Trying to convert people while they're hunting?

[malaise]

2. Good link - thanks

This is also interesting

Henry is a Texas native whose first exposure to Southern Baptist work outside of Texas was his service as resort minister at Jackson Hole, Wyo., during college.

[malaise]

8. Another report here

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/30/10-americans-arrested-tak_n_443269.html
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The Baptist church members from Idaho called it a "Haitian Orphan Rescue Mission," meant to save abandoned children from the chaos following Haiti's earthquake. Their plan was to scoop up 100 kids and take them by bus to a rented hotel at a beach resort in the Dominican Republic, where they planned to establish an orphanage.

The 10 Americans include members of the Central Valley Baptist Church in Meridian, Idaho and the East Side Baptist Church in Twin Falls, Idaho, as well as people from Texas and Kansas. Idaho friends and relatives have been in touch with them through text messages and phone calls, Lankford said.

"The plan was never to go adopt all these kids. The plan was to create this orphanage where kids could live. And kids get adopted out of orphanages. People go down and they're going to fall in love with these kids, and many of these kids will end up getting adopted."

"Of course I'm concerned for my wife and my daughter," he added. "They were hoping to make a difference and be able to help those kids."

The group described their plans on a Web site where they also asked for tax-deductible contributions, saying they would "gather" 100 orphans and bus them to the Dominican resort of Cabarete, before building a more permanent orphanage in the Dominican town of Magante.

"Given the urgent needs from this earthquake, God has laid upon our hearts the need to go now versus waiting until the permanent facility is built," the group wrote.
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I smell snake oil salespeople or worse.

[The Backlash Cometh]

13. Um, is there no shortage of children in need in the US?

[midnight]

3. k&R.

[tango-tee]

4. That's what caught my attention as well.

I thought "Idaho????".

[malaise]

5. I said wow

when I heard that.

[old mark]

6. So you can't just go and scoop up a few kids, even if you are an

American "christian".....What is this world coming to...:sarcasm:

mark

[malaise]

7. This is being covered on GEM$NBC now

Why don't these media houses investigate all of these people.
I wish this bimbo on GEM$NBC wouldn't attempt to minimize the seriousness of the charge of abduction and stop this crap like bringing on the mother of one of those who has been charged. Either investigate these people or STFU GEM$NBC. Stop trying to make these alleged abductors and Fundie loonies look like angels of mercy. I'm betting there are more than a few perverts in these groups waiting to torture some more helpless and needy kids.

Stop trying to steal the Haitian children. Enough fugging exploitation has taken place in Haiti.

reword

[old mark]

9. Mal, my brother and his wife adopted twin girls from Manila about 10 years ago...

they had to undergo a very thorough background check that took months, just to try to make sure the girls were not being sent into sex slavery or some such.
It is the kind of world we live in that makes this necessary, and I am amazed that people think they can just take a group of kids from one country to another.
There is so much racism and just terrible lack of sense in this, and that is being charitable.

FWIW, my nieces are now in college.

mark

[malaise]

11. Lovely story

It takes ages for Jamaicans to adopt Jamaican kids so I really wonder what makes them feel so special that they could just pick up Haitian children and assume they can rent a hotel in DR and start an orphanage. Sounds very suspicious to me and I'm glad they locked them up. I'd run all their names through the pedophile data bases for starters.

[old mark]

14. Imagine if there were a flood or some such in Texas, and a group of

black people took white kids away to California with them.

The asrrogance of these people is amazing, and as you said, there could be any number of motives to this. The things adults do to kids.....

mark

[Canuckistanian]

10. K&R

What fresh Hell is this?

[malaise]

12. The world hears disaster

Decent people think - how can we help
Scumbags think - how can we cash in.

[MountainLaurel]

15. How did I know it was a religious-based organization? n/t

[kickysnana]

16. Is this the same groups that had the phoney student exchange..

program for European students? The idea was to convert them with immersion and love bombing them while they were here.

Probably did more damage than you can imagine as the teens were not happy with the bait and switch.

[backscatter712]

17. When I see headlines like this, I think Rush Limbaugh's been looking for a new bottle of Viagra. n/t