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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 09:20 AM
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Nostalgia for Bush/Cheney radicalism (Glenn Greenwald)
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2010/01/31/nostalgia/index.html


Sunday, Jan 31, 2010 07:32 EST
Nostalgia for Bush/Cheney radicalism
By Glenn Greenwald

As has been voluminously documented here, one of the most notable aspects of the first year of the Obama presidency has been how many previously controversial Bush/Cheney policies in the terrorism and civil liberties realms have been embraced. Even Obama's most loyal defenders often acknowledge that, as Micheal Tomasky recently put it, "the civil liberties area has been worst. This is the one area in which the president's actions don't remotely match the candidate's promises." From indefinite detention and renditions to denial of habeas rights, from military commissions and secrecy obsessions to state secrets abuses, many of the defining Bush/Cheney policies continue unabated under its successor administration.

Despite all that, there is substantial political pressure from all directions for Obama to reverse the very few decisions where he actually deviated from Bush/Cheney radicalism in these areas. In the wake of extreme political pressure, mostly from Democrats, the White House just forced Eric Holder to retreat on his decision to try Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in New York City, and numerous Democrats now appear prepared to join with the GOP to cut-off funding for civilian trials altogether, forcing the administraiton to try all Terrorists in military commissions or just hold them indefinitely. The administration has created a warped multi-tiered justice system where only a select few even get civilian trials -- those whom they know in advance they can convict -- yet there are growing signs that the President will abandon even that symbolic, piecemeal nod to due process.

Meanwhile, The Washington Post is publishing demands from former Bush CIA and NSA Chief Michael Hayden -- who presided over the blatantly criminal warrantless eavesdropping program -- that Obama must even more closely model his Terrorism policies on Bush's, as though the architects of Bush's illegal policies are our Guiding Lights when deciding what to do now. Even Obama's own top intelligence official criticized the Justice Department's decision to treat Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab as what he is -- a criminal -- and accord him normal due process. And an internal Justice Department investigation which -- under Bush -- had concluded that John Yoo and Jay Bybee committed ethical violations in their authoring of the "torture memos" and should be investigated by their state bars has now, under Obama, reportedly been changed -- whitewashed -- to conclude that they acted appropriately (even if their written opinions exhibited "poor judgment").

In sum, there is clearly a bipartisan and institutional craving for a revival (more accurately: ongoing preservation) of the core premise of Bush/Cheney radicalism: that because we're "at war" with Terrorists, our standard precepts of justice and due process do not apply and, indeed, must be violated. To relieve ourselves of guilt and of the bad lingering taste left from having such discredited and unpopular leadership for eight years, we collectively pretended for a little while to regret the excesses of the Bush/Cheney approach to such matters. But it's now crystal clear that the country, especially its ruling elite, is either too petrified of Terrorism and/or too enamored of the powers which that fear enables to accept any real changes from the policies that were supposedly such a profound violation "of our values." One can only marvel at the consensus outrage generated by the mere notion that we charge people with crimes and give them trials if we want to lock them in a cage for life. Indeed, what was once the most basic and defining American principle -- the State much charge someone with a crime and give them a fair trial in order to imprison them -- has been magically transformed into Leftist extremism.

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:52 AM
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1. k/r
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 01:06 PM
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:37 PM
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 11:12 PM
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4. k&r -- we are still being held hostage by the damn spooks and their loyal minions
Edited on Sun Jan-31-10 11:14 PM by scarletwoman
sprinkled all through our government institutions.

The "War on Terror" is the most insidious thing that's ever happened to our country. It's a ravening beast eating away the heart and soul of our democracy and our very freedom.

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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 11:32 PM
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5. ah, bipartisanship: "politics must stop at the water's edge"
nobody remembers the Gleichshaltung as a glorious opportunity, only bad because Hitler wasted it: saying that would be utterly insane--and yet we have half a party dedicated to such an insane worldview and praxis! we must seek consensus, because the consensus is always right. and the "leftmost" half of our politicos are labeled "liberal" and thus beyond reproach, even if they agree with the banks that collapsed the economy under Bush I and 2008-, the psychopatic Cold Warriors gunning down 8-year-olds and then screaming that they had no choice and that Killing the Enemy Is Not Murder, and the utterly Orwellian think tanks. conservadems literally tell us that Reaganite and Blairite policies are good, especially if done by Dems, because ZOMG they repealed DADT after two decades in power and took the nasty ol' Pubs to the woodshed, so stop your leftie insurrection and vote for us in November! it's an election year, dont'cha know?!
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