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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 08:46 PM
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"We Probably Gave Powell the Wrong Speech" Former CIA director for Europe
A chilling interview with the former CIA director for Europe. I'm just posting a few highlights. Read it all to see what our CIA and Bush/Cheney were up to in fabricating "threats".

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,462782,00.html

SPIEGEL: The renditions program saw the kidnapping of suspected Islamist extremists to third countries. Were you involved in the program?

Drumheller: I would be lying if I said no. I have very complicated feelings about the whole issue. I do see the purpose of renditions, if they are carried out properly. Guys sitting around talking about carrying out attacks as they smoke their pipes in the comfort of a European capital tend to get put off the idea if they learn that a like-minded individual has been plucked out of safety and sent elsewhere to pay for his crimes.

SPIEGEL: We disagree. At the very least, you need to be certain that the targets of those renditions aren't innocent people.

Drumheller: It was Vice President Dick Cheney who talked about the "dark side" we have to turn on. When he spoke those words, he was articulating a policy that amounted to "go out and get them." His remarks were evidence of the underlying approach of the administration, which was basically to turn the military and the agency loose and let them pay for the consequences of any unfortunate -- or illegal -- occurences.

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SPIEGEL: But it turned out to be the centerpiece in Powell's presentation -- and nobody had told him about the doubts.

Drumheller: I turned on the TV in my office, and there it was. So the first thing I thought, having worked in the government all my life, was that we probably gave Powell the wrong speech. We checked our files and found out that they had just ignored it.

SPIEGEL: So the White House just ignored the fact that the whole story might have been untrue?

Drumheller: The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy. Right before the war, I said to a very senior CIA officer: "You guys must have something else," because you always think it's the CIA. "There is some secret thing I don`t know." He said: "No. But when we get to Baghdad, we are going to find warehouses full of stuff. Nobody is going to remember all of this."
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 08:50 PM
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1. I have read that the OVP gave that speech and the one with the 16 words.
I read that Good Old Bolton was the one to reinsert those 16 words that Jr. spoke on air that night.
Cheney is truly evil
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 09:59 PM
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3. How many times has his brain been deprived of oxygen
Because of his worthless heart?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 09:30 PM
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2. Coincides with the Downong street minutes lead up to war
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:27 PM
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4. Cheney suggested others turn to the dark side???
This is real life, not "Star Wars". The only conclusion I can come to from this is that to Cheney the imagined ends always justify the means. He is not just evil. He is stupid to boot.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:33 PM
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5. "We Probably Gave Powell the Wrong Speech"!?
Are you kidding me? Are these morons stuck in 8th grade? What next? "I forgot" or "My dog ate it" or something equally insulting. These are the most powerful people in the world and they say they can't get the right speech in the president's hands? BS. Somebody is taking a fall. And a clumsy and painfully transparent one at that. They can't even do THAT right.:eyes:
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porkrind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:11 AM
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6. "I was just following orders" ... sounds familliar.
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