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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:36 PM
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The Media and the DLC don't pick our nominee for us. Do they rig our primaries?
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 10:36 PM by Proud2BAmurkin
The fact is, Democrats pick the Democratic nominee. The DLC can spend money on ads and the MSM can spend time trashing candidates but they don't infiltrate our polls and pick our nominee. DEMOCRATS DO.

Dean lost in the primaries last time because DEMOCRATS decided he couldn't win. Did they take into account that the MSM was against him? Yup they did, but that doesn't mean the MSM picked the candidate. DEMOCRATS decided THEY liked Kerry better or they decided the MSM trashed Dean so much that there wouldn't be enough votes in the general election for him to beat Idiot Son.

I think Hillary will get Dean'ed in the primaries not because of the MSM but because WE DEMOCRATS will decide we like someone else. It's stupid to act like it's a done deal and that there is some magic DLC/MSM force that will swoop in and control the minds of PRIMARY VOTING DEMOCRATS.

I'll vote for someone else in the primary besides Hillary but if she gets the nomination I'll be fighting like hell for her to win instead of bitching and whining that "the media picked her" or "the DLC took over the process." That's just stupid.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:40 PM
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1. I feel like the msm or the repugs interfer with our choices. It really concerns
me. The msm picks someone and bangs the drums. The repugs pick one to hate and swiftboat. It influences people. This is not fair. I don't see this happening with the republicans primaries and this is really unfair.
I just wish that both would stop and let us decide between us dems. It sometimes bothers me when I feel the msm or whoever is trying to influence the vote.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:11 PM
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11. The Media Works For THEM
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 11:12 PM by AndyTiedye


I don't see this happening with the republicans primaries and this is really unfair.


They sure did it to McCain in 2000. They'll slime anyone who is in their way, and the media will happily do their bidding.

(Since then Bush** and McCain have kissed and made up)




If the media is pushing a particular Democrat, it is because they know that Democrat can be defeated.

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:41 PM
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2. Actually the DLC does not spend money on ads...
And in fact does not give money to candidates, or support them in any material way...
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:51 PM
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7. tsk tsk. facts...nt.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:08 PM
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10. A bit of a half truth.
The DLC proper does not fund candidates. Of course it is also the central organization in a network of unofficial rightwing Democratic Party organizations that do fund and control candidates. The DLC/PPI 'New Democrats' promote corporate friendly policies at the expense of the working class and fund an endless barrage of media confusion to try to fool enough of the voting population to think that corporatist corruption is good for them.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:13 PM
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13. They do not raise money on behalf of candidates...
They do not distribute money to candidates, and they do not run advertising...

They are a think tank, with ideas some Democrats find appealing...

The rest of your post is just boilerplate DLC criticism that is irrelevant to the point I made...
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:28 PM
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14. Just like these guys...
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:33 PM
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16. Yeah, it's the Democratic national comitee, and that is currently run by Dean.
notice how his 50 state strategy worked so well.
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bdrube Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:42 PM
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3. I'll vote my conscience.
Which means I'll support someone I truly believe in for the
primaries (Kucinich, or Gore if he runs).

But it also means I will NOT vote for Hillary in the general
election.  She forfeited my vote when she voted for the war.

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:11 PM
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12. See you in 2008.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:44 PM
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4. I Want Al Gore
He's my #1 choice, and in my opinion, someone the party would rally around like no other candidate.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:46 PM
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6. So do I at this juncture nt
nt
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:45 PM
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5. To your question.....Bingo! n/t
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:55 PM
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8. The only guy I'd want Harold Ford, Jr. to pick for me...
Would be a certain fellow Tennesseean of his!:eyes:

B-)
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:05 PM
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9. I hate to sound cynical but
I find it difficult to believe the promotion of Obama
by the Media had no effect. No disrespect to Obama. whatsoever.
He was featured on cover of major magazines. Glowing articles
in paper. Glowing stories on TV. It got so heavy
Jon Stewart jokingly said something to the effect, everytime
you hear a strange tone--that means Obama has done something.

My point is if the Media had decided to choose, Vilsack,
Clarke or any other candidate, that person would be a
lot higher in the polls. Yes, Obama has the Charisma.

The Media(Gloria Borger, for one) said We like to put someone
up then tear them down. One of the Sunday AM Programs.

We can agree to disagree and still remain friendly, I hope.
I will continue to believe the DL C had a role in bringing
Dean down. The Media made the decision to play "The Scream"
over and over 24 7 for what seemed to be a week. There are
times when Media just does not cover a candidates' mistake.


They leave themselves open to criticism when they give two
candidates all the coverage and ignore the others to the point
you would not even know they are running.We are a year away
from Primaries. They coud at least mention other candidates.




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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:31 PM
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15. I think your wrong.....Hillary is the obvious DLC candidate
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:43 PM
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17. Both can undermine a clean and truthful process.
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