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Suji to Seoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 02:25 AM
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HCR Reconciliation Thread (minor updates)
The Republicans backed themselves into a corner and made themselves look like fools doing it. As a result, they have made themselves irrelevant. They shot themselves in the foot and are not trying to bleed it dry

Sanders says they have the votes, but I still don't see it.

Let's look at the updated rolls.

We need at least 50 to force a Biden tie breaker vote. Including 41 GOP "no" votes, the count is 49 - 48 - 3.

Let's look at the 32 who have stated to use Reconciliation (according to Countdown). Let's assume we have those:
Feinstein, Kerry, Sanders, Brown, Whitehouse, Bennet, Burris, Gillibrand, Merkeley, Franken, Leahy, Schumer, Reed, Boxer, Udall, Mikulski, Shaheen, Lautenberg, Durbin, Specter, Casey, Dorgan, Cardin, Bingamen, Menendez, Wyden, Stabenow, Johnson, Feingold, Inouye, Carper, Levin

The following are definite "yes" votes: (17 total yes votes)
Byrd - WV; Udall - CO; Kohl - WI; Akaka - HI; Tester - MT; Harkin - IA; Webb - VA; Warner - VA; Dodd - CT; Murray - WA; Kaufman - DE; McCaskill - MO; Klobuchar - MN; Bayh - IN; Hagan - NC; Landrieu - LA
Reid - NV (if the votes are there)

The following are definite "maybe" votes: (3) votes
Begich - AK (being a DEM in AK has advantages. He may be one term and we can use that for our advantage.)
Conrad - ND (Since I have not heard a peep from him, he's in the maybe section. Someone help me out.)
Cantwell - WA (Lukewarm. Keep up the heat.)

The following are the "no" votes, the Blue Dog, DINO-moles in the Senate: (7 votes)
Bill Nelson - FL (no completely. Too bought.)
Ben Nelson - NE (no completely. Too selfish.)
Pryor - AR (No chance for his vote. Too brain dead.)
Rockefeller - WV (WILL NOT SUPPORT RECONCILIATION. APPARENTLY THERE ARE NO POOR PEOPLE IN WV.)
Lincoln - AR (WILL NOT SUPPORT RECONCILIATION. APPARENTLY THERE ARE NO POOR PEOPLE IN AR.)
Lieberman - CT (WILL NOT SUPPORT RECONCILIATION. THIS MOLE NEEDS TO BE DROPPED FROM THE CAUCUS.)

We do not have it, but we are one vote away from a 50-50 with a Biden "yes" tie-breaker!!! Expect 41 no votes (45 with these DINO assholes).

Keep up the heat!!!

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 11:20 AM
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1. All we need is 50 votes...
Biden only casts a tie breaker vote if there is a 50-50 tie. If the vote ends in 50-49, it passes.

as someone else here on DU explained, we could win with 30 votes of the repukes have only 29 and the rest abstain.

Biden only comes into play on a 50-50 vote tie.

So all we need is 50 or a simple majority.
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