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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 11:22 AM Original message |
U. S. Honey Bee Deaths Increase Again |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
1. Monsanto? |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. NY TImes reported E.P.A. to Order Pesticide Testing in April '09 - Couldn't find any more on that. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Genetically modified seeds have built in insecticides ...maybe killing bees ? |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Yes - I am very anxious to see the EPA report when it comes out at the end of 2010. |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
71. Lots of people think its the GE mutant crops |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. How freaking weird is it that industrialized nations have industrialized Bees. And seedstock. |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Good information on transporting of bees & colony collapse from wikipedia - common practice now: |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. It is actually a huge industry and not as weird as it sounds. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Thanks for the tip on Basil. Borage grows wild in my yard, flowers early and attracts many bees. |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. On a funny note: we planted too much basil last season. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:45 AM Response to Reply #4 |
62. I had a Butterfly Bush for a few years until the weather killed it... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Well, the factory farms pretty much have to cart around the bees |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Sure, what you're "doing wrong" is feeding a lot more people. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. don't try and argue that our current agricultural model is the only one that will feed millions. |
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FedUpWithIt All (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Agree. It is certainly not the only model. It is likely not even the most efficient. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Naw, I'm sure wishful thinking will work too. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 12:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
56. We have a local organic farm smack in the middle of the suburb that feeds 250 families, plus the... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Look, the common thing that all of you yelling at me on this thread have... |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I really wish you knew what you are bloviating about. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. LOL |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I'm gladd you think it's funny., |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. That's absolutely fantastic. |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. think - outside - box |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 09:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Wonderful brainstrorming. |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. my point is |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Look, the common thing that all of you yelling at me on this thread have... |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Having lived in the worst parts of PDX Or, 20 years before gentrification and |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Yeah, sure. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Circular thinking? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Look, the common thing that all of you yelling at me on this thread have... |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. And you are incorrect. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. +1 nt |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. Not true |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Whoa, can't argue with that well-thought-out response. n/t |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 09:50 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. hard to argue with such passion, huh? |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Look, the common thing that all of you yelling at me on this thread have... |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I'm not yelling... |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. That doesn't dispute a thing I've said. |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. the quote says... |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
72. untrue propaganda |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
7. I have seen lots of dying/dead bees in the last 5 years or so |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. Somebody should write a book called "BIG vs small," cuz I think research will show that |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Absolutely--wish more communities would go all in for the Small is Beautiful Lifestyle |
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handmade34 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
50. E. F. Schumacher's book |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
14. Oh good, Linda Moulton Howe |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Maybe you don't "trust" her but read her references - I have no problems with these: |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Colony collapse is a real problem |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Linda does do some different reporting but all in all you cannot say she can't back most of it up. |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Her work on cattle mutilations and crop circles |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
18. I know lots of smaller bee keepers and none of them have Colony Collapse Disorder |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. This article speaks to smaller bee keeper's are dwindling & the influence of pesticides: |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
21. Transporting bees causes them a lot of stress ... |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
25. My almond trees were pollinated by a ton of bees this year |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Good for you but that is not the case in all areas of the country and world. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #25 |
57. I got a baby almond tree last year which has lovely blossoms just now. Should I try hand pollinating |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. Have you looked for bees visiting the tree? Honey bees only work above 54 °F |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 06:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Temps here are above 54F much of the time here in Santa Barbara county. Cool foggy nights... |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
29. I harp on this! Thanks for posting it! |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Thank you for caring! It takes all of us - check out the pesticide report I listed. |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. I just signed up for emails from the EPA site - if you wish go here to do that also: |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. cool |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Good place to be! I am right beside you! |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
35. I adore Linda Howe, all the more because she disagrees with that moron Noory more and |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Thank you I couldn't agree more! Just because she tackles some different topics she is attacked. |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
40. I am blessed with bumblebees. They make their home between the house and the chimney. |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 06:29 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Oh you are very lucky & make me hungry for such wonderful food! |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
49. Lots of people die from bee stings every year. |
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heartbeatjay (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
52. Bee deaths. |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
54. So long and thanks for all the fish!! |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
55. Didn't they trace this to a Swiss insecticide firm? |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 03:08 AM Response to Original message |
69. not good. I saw this coming in '06. I told you back then lots of life would start disappearing for |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 03:12 AM Response to Original message |
70. Ok, there are billions of crows swarming this area recently |
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