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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:55 PM
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I'm going to say it, Charlie Rangel should be removed from leadership roles
To do otherwise smacks of the Democratic caucus being hypocritical in matters related to ethics violations.
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:03 PM
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1. Yes, yes he should.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:07 PM
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2. Rangel says it wasn't his fault. Or something.
I mean, I've read this quote fifty times and cannot figure out of he's saying he did NOTHING wrong, or he's saying SOMETHING was done wrong, but HE didn't do it, or if he's saying NOTHING was done wrong. Someone needs to invent a Congresscritterspeak to English translator.

“I don’t want to be critical of the committee, but the common sense dictates that members of Congress should not be held responsible for what could be the wrongdoing of, or mistakes occur, as a staff unless there’s reason to believe the member knew or should have known. And there’s nothing in the record to indicate the latter,” Rangel told reporter (emphasis mine).
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:24 PM
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34. And this is just the first ruling
of the many ethics charges currently against Rangel.

This was about the least serious of the group.

As the other rulings come down this will only get worse.

He needs to go.

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Last_Stand Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:09 PM
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3. If they're going to nail him...
I'd like to see them go after EVERY single scum-sucking politician in DC, regardless of party.

So come on MSM, let's see your fair and balanced coverage of that.
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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:15 PM
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4. +1
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:20 PM
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6. +2 nt
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:22 PM
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8. The media and R-hypocrit Party only hound Democrats for ethics violations
And Democrats refuse to hit back.
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 04:23 PM
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29. Agreed
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:18 PM
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5. I just heard on Randi Rhodes that there were a bunch of other congressmen on that junket
and somehow, Rangel is the only one still facing ethics charges. Do you think the DLC might be trying to push him out to get someone more corporate compliant?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:21 PM
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7. Wouldn't surprise me a bit. Let's have the names of the others
and make sure they all suffer the same consequences.
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Duckhunter935 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:58 PM
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9. agreed
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:02 PM
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10. Oh Jeez, our little ethics choir raises it's goody two shoes head again

:puke:
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:06 PM
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11. Pelosi, as minority leader, demanded the same of any Republican
who was found in violation of ethics.

She MUST hold her own caucus to the same standard she demanded of the opposition caucus.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:13 PM
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15. Because they are Republicans. We attack them, most here defend Democrats.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 05:58 AM
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22. Um, no not because they are Republicans. Because its wrong
It's wrong for our elected representatives to abuse their powers at the people's expense. It doesn't suddenly become LESS wrong when a Democrat is guilty.

And no, most people here don't blindly defend all Democrats no matter what they do. When Democrats violate the rules of their office, most here want them to be held accountable.

I suppose you think we all should have been defending Rod Blagoveich too?

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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:22 PM
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33. The most important rule of politics
is

"It depends on whose ox is being gored."

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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:07 PM
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12. Ethics are for losers.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:21 PM
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32. I know what you mean, and you are right on the money
When Bush was president, the Iraq and Afghan wars were illegal, immoral, and wrong. Now that Obama is president and has decided to continue these wars, including the recent escalation in Afghanistan, the wars are necessary and vital to our national security.

:sarcasm:
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:09 PM
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13. I don't agree, but I know I am in the minority.
Charles Rangel was one of three people who made the need for health care reform during the all night Congressional Rules Committee meeting and Thursday's meeting come to life.

He spoke from the heart and was one of the few that made me really cognizant of how important HCR is to minority communities. If anyone saw him talk on this topic in November, you would hopefully realize his value.

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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:12 PM
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14. Doesn't matter some here just wait for the chance to show how fast they can turn on a Democrat
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:21 PM
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16. Well, especially a progressive type Democrat. nt
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 07:56 PM
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17. It's not turning on a Democrat
It's about ridding Congress of unethical/illegal activities. Not only should Rangel give up the Chair, he should resign his seat. I'm tired of this kind of shit.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:01 PM
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18. I agree totally. And thank you for
having the guts to post it and stand by it.
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:09 AM
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26. Yes, I thank both of your, the OP and you for supporting it.
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Biker13 Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 08:32 PM
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19. K&R...
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 05:52 AM
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20. FOX News Charlie is a joke
guy has more time to appear on hannity than he does to give movement progressives the time of day.
he's in it only for himself.
the worst example of a career politician and his retirement is long overdue.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 05:54 AM
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21. If I correctly understand the facts, then I agree. However....
I'm not confident that I'm fully up to speed on this particular issue.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 08:49 AM
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23. Remove Rangel after they go back and address the multitude of ethics violations under Bushco. nt
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:02 AM
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24. Yup. nt
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:06 AM
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25. Agreed.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:24 AM
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27. The New York Times is engaged in a vendetta against Charlie Rangel
They have to correct half the crap they publish about him.
Why would anyone turn on this good Congressman based on the incessant, twisted attacks from this paper?
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peggygirl Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:27 AM
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28. I agree. Remove him and move on. nt
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:03 PM
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30. kick
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:08 PM
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31. yeah
i can't defend him.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:24 PM
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35. He's been one of my bests for years, & will stay one, but, yes, he should go.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 01:30 PM
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36. yes he should. There is much in his long career and noble war record to be proud of
but keeping this situation going simply tarnishes him further.
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