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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:04 AM Original message |
Labor Notes: "I've Never seen this much anger at the Democrats from union people" |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
1. Perhaps it's time to take heed. |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Might be too late |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 07:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
34. Mr. Tesha and I went to the SEIU-led pro-healthcare march held in Boston a couple of weeks ago... |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
70. So let me get this straight |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. I don't agree with their approach |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
81. Did you read what I wrote? Maybe you need to go back and read it again? |
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rufus dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 05:41 PM Response to Reply #81 |
124. read it again |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Some of their concern was "The Cadillac Tax". |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #70 |
92. Coakley was in the pocket of insurance companies. Why the fuck shouldn't they? |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #70 |
100. These are rank and file members. Not the leadership. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. Both parties know that union membership is approx 7% of workforce |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. They should. If that 7% and their families and friends stop |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. They still don't give a shit. Their DC service is like an unpaid internship. |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 04:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. They wait? Our Senator Harkin and spouse live well |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
35. Good point. A spousal unit can expedite the process quite nicely. |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. I pray you are right. |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:43 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. 12% plus |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. And unions are all we have to counter corporate lobbyists |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Notice 2nd reply to OP was "Fuck the Unions" |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. And they claim they are the "realists" |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:55 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Oh yeah - the so called moderate or independant. |
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warm regards (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
32. Exactly...and most of them are government workers to boot. |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. Down from the mid-thirties at its heyday |
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pasto76 (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
96. kind of a low ball number..national average is 12-15% |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
8. Recommend |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
9. I thought these third way stealth republicans were smart but evil.. but |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
12. This really infuriates me. How dare any Democrats diss the Unions? |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 04:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. I know it doesn't make sense but neither does countless other moves by this admin! |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. Yes...What they don't get in dismissing the Unions is the MANY people who Support Unions |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I'm no longer a union member, |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
66. exactly! 7% current membership expands greatly |
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mrmpa (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #66 |
99. 5 union members in my family=13 votes |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:13 AM Response to Original message |
13. How can the white house not see this? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
38. I stated a few weeks ago that |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. I think it is their intent to suppress voter turnout |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. i think that's a good guess. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Either that or they are incredibly stupid...and I don't believe they're stupid. nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. no, they're not stupid. they went to good schools, you know. or at least expensive ones. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Yes, it must be Door #1 because no, they aren't stupid. |
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stillwaiting (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
63. There is no doubt in my mind that you are correct. It's intentional. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
80. +10,000!! don't forget , after Obama smeared and jeered the repukes at their winter meeting 2 days |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
59. The white house? THEY SEE IT. |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #59 |
72. Precisely |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:35 PM Response to Reply #59 |
85. Exactly!!~..don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining!! eom |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
114. Wall Street. Obama is arrogant (I'm sad to note), and thinks $$$ will carry him to victory. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:16 AM Response to Original message |
14. Kick |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:28 AM Response to Original message |
15. Nothing to see here... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
18. The only thing he was adamant about was the tax on these members plans. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Infuriating and nauseating |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 04:45 AM Response to Original message |
20. Disgusting the way loyal supporters are treated |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:11 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Ah, but we served our purpose |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:16 AM Response to Original message |
29. I've gotten to the point that I don't understand Obama. He was |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:19 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I'm pretty convinced Feingold had it right when he said the HCR bill the Senate passed is the bill |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
86. ding ding ding..you win the prize!!! eom |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:21 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. something's going on here, but we don't know what it is, do we, mr. general public.... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Whatever It Is, We Don't Like It |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
77. You didn't notice Obama on TV once in a while? |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 05:39 AM Response to Reply #77 |
103. You don't back either democrat, you stay out of it entirely. And he |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
39. Obama's betrayal of the unions is going to cost him. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
60. He doesn't care. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #60 |
110. Unfortunately true. All that really seems to motivate him--never mind his political theatrics-- |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
40. Did they misread him as meaning he wouldn't tax benefits when he said he wouldn't tax benefits? |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
42. I wrote the President today |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
43. But I heard on Hannity that Obama is a Soshalist controlled by Unions. |
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skyounkin (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I would love a socialist president |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #47 |
75. Ain't that the truth. n/t |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
44. where's the spinners? |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. Probably dead from overwork n/t |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
62. Harrassing teachers. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #62 |
88. you've got that right..they are in overdrive attacking teachers! and the teacher unions! eom |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
93. +1 |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
45. Thank you for posting this info |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
48. Card check? Card check anyone? |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
49. The Democrats are merely the asshole |
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Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
50. Altogether labor spent over $500 million on Dems in 08 |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
52. The idea of |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
53. Past time to throw ALL the corporatists out of the Party |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
54. It's time to face reality. |
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SlingBlade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
55. K & R |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
56. K&R |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
58. Obviously racists who are not getting fucked in the ass by the economy and the administration |
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icee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
61. I would bet 70:30 Democrats will lose many seats in November |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Maybe then we can have that Iran War |
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icee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 08:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. I don't know... I'm of the belief that if that war was not waged by |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
65. And this was before the RI teachers. Guess Holder/Fredo will have to prosecute some union |
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havbrush (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
67. Anger at Dems |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
68. I stand always, unmovable with the unions - Whether I'm a member or not. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #68 |
115. I'm with ya, GreenTea!! |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
69. Today I called the AFL-CIO and asked them to consider starting a Labor Party in the US. |
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Ildem09 (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
73. If you don't support Labor GTFO of the Democratic party |
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southernyankeebelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
74. Welcome to the club unions. So you think you would do much better |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
76. Understand this..Just because some Union leaders made a deal with Obama does not mean Rank and File |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:31 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. +1000 organized labor had to fight to get decent benefits, and many, many times forfeited wages |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
79. No bill is better than this bill? |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:33 PM Response to Reply #79 |
84. please read what the senate bill is all about: |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 10:16 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. Labor has been fighting for you forever..Do you work a 40 hour week? do you have a pension or labor |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. Many of us can't get reliable health care w/o this bill |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. You won't get it with this bill! ..go read the damn bill and you will see what you will not be |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 02:53 AM Response to Reply #95 |
101. How not |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 05:51 AM Response to Reply #94 |
104. And you aren't going to get reliable care with it, either n/t |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #104 |
118. Based on what |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. take recissions, as one example, of where the bill fails; |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Bsed on the fact that the "coverage" offered is of the shittiest possible variety |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Wouldn't the reconciliation bill address some of those issues |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
82. It's a damned good thing, |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
87. It's unbelievable in Detroit. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
90. Well deserved anger. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
91. Things that would make smart people go "hmmmmm". |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
97. The problem is the public unions' stance is unrealistic |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. NOOO the problem is Obama lied...he bold faced lied to the unions! eom |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 02:56 AM Response to Reply #97 |
102. Oh jesus, blame the poor bastard making a buck more than the next guy |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:49 AM Response to Reply #97 |
106. You are blaming the wong people for this disaster. n/t |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:18 AM Response to Reply #106 |
109. It's not a matter of blame it's a matter of math |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. You sound like Race to the Bottom should be our goal. |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Try and focus, gramps |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:24 AM Response to Reply #112 |
117. Whatever you say, sonny. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #109 |
119. dislike unions and deny global climate change, the two often go together.... |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. I don't dislike unions at all |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:21 AM Original message |
Do you have ANY CLUE how many BILLIONAIRES exist here and in the world? ANY CLUE? TAX THE BASTARDS. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #97 |
116. Too bad there's no guillotines. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
105. It is time to form a United Workers of America Party |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
107. Really? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
108. They are 100% right. Do NOT ever take anything on "good faith." |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
113. Side-point: This should be must-reading for any "what good are unions?" morons. Go ahead; PAY TAX. |
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