Michael Moore: ‘Democrats are a bunch of wusses…It’s disgusting… I’m sick of them’

[still_one]

"These Democrats are a bunch of wusses," Moore told Raw Story in a hard-edged interview Wednesday. "They don't have the courage of their convictions. They won't stand and fight."


http://rawstory.com/2010/03/michael-moore-democrats-bunch-wusses/

[mmonk]

1. Convictions?

[DrDan]

5. there have been a few - Blagojevich, Traficant, Marion Barry . . .

[mmonk]

35. Lol

[bigtree]

2. again with the name-calling

. . . and the broad brush.

I'm all for criticizing their actions, but this approach is just feeding cynicism. I'd rather see more effort in recruiting primary challenges to those he feels aren't doing their job and let that candidate work to replace recalcitrant or errant Democrats before the general election. What I don't support is the general bashing of our elected Democrats. We don't need Moore to do that, that's what republicans are there for.

[JamesA1102]

3. Well said nt

[still_one]

4. Perhaps, but the biggest problem with the Democrats is they don't even defend themselves when

attacked, and that is unforgivable

[Echo In Light]

7. And do you honestly believe that can accurately be chalked up to "cowardice" & not collusion?

[still_one]

8. I am not sure. When Kerry was swift-boated, he delayed his response, and when he finally

came out, it was extremely half-hearted

[Echo In Light]

9. Yes...and that's one example of a VERY long list of them

[bigtree]

10. he didn't delay shit

The media delayed reporting his response, and then only selectively; giving Bush the upper hand by ignoring his non-service. I outlined Kerry's responses from the first day, complete with the media which bothered to report on it. He flat-out called Bush AWOL, but you didn't hear that on MSNBC or CNN.

[still_one]

30. While the media is contributory, it is the lack of enthusiasm or fight from the Democrats

and their surrogates

If the media delayed his response, then our own "swift boaters" should have countered.

As far as your AWOL on bush, he should have hired his own group to plaster the media with that. Are we defenseless? If we cannot go through proper media channels do we just give up?

Frankly, when the HCR started, the Democrats did shit. They let the repukes control the agenda and the town halls

In fact they are still doing it

We can blame the media all we want, but I can see it with my own eyes on CSPAN except for about 20 Democrats, most in Congress try to avoid confrontation

and you can't tell me that Kerry was good at giving a direct answer to a direct question, he wasn't

[bigtree]

31. Kerry responded directly, forcefully, and often. I kept track of his responses.

firm responses to bushit:


Kerry: Why Won't Bush Just Denounce the Swift Boat Ads?
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=35293

Kerry Campaign Asks Bush-Cheney to Explain 'Web of Connections'
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=35268

Kerry-Edwards: Bush's Web of Connection to Smear Grows Wider
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=35201

Kerry: Fact Sheet - Hand-in-Glove - The Bush-Cheney Ties to Swift Boat Veterans for 'Truth'
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=35185

Kerry: Cleland and Rassmann Deliver Message from Congressional Vets to President in Crawford, Texas - Denounce the Ads
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=35183

Kerry-Edwards: America's Swift Reaction to Bush Backers' Latest 'Ugly' Lying Smear Campaign
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=35112

Kerry-Edwards: Bush-Backed Smear Campaign Continues to Backfire; Lautenberg, Turner, Other Veteran Who Served with Kerry Speak Out
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=35109

Kerry-Edwards: Reports Detail Even Closer Ties to Bush Campaign; No Wonder Bush Won't Condemn This Smear-His Campaign is Behind It
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=35022

Kerry: Bush Campaign Busted Passing Out 'Swift Boat Veterans for Bush' Flyer
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=34996

More Republican Ties Revealed Behind "Swift Boat Vets For Bush", Says Kerry Campaign
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=34994

Kerry Statement on Bush Front Group 'Swift Boat Veterans for Truth'
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=34918

Kerry-Edwards Campaign Debunks False Swift Boat Attacks; Sets the Record Straight With New Ad
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=34911

Kerry Campaign: Bush Too Busy Attacking to Get the Facts Right
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=34788

Kerry-Edwards 2004 Will Distribute News Via U.S. Newswire: In a Campaign First, News Will Appear On Yahoo! News/Politics
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=34753

more responses

Kerry Campaign: Halliburton Goes for Gold - In Scandal Pentathlon
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=133-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards 2004 Releases Fact Sheet on Bush-Cheney Ad
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=134-08 ...

White House Again Refuses to Condemn Blatantly False Ad, Says Kerry-Edwards 2004
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=144-08 ...

Statement from Kerry Advisor Rand Beers on President's Remarks in Florida
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=137-08 ...

Statement by John Kerry on the Selection of Porter Goss to be Director of CIA
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=136-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards 2004 Fact Sheet: George Bush's Failed Fiscal Policies
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=119-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards 2004 Releases Report: Bush's Failed Fiscal Policies; Former Treasury Secretary to Discuss Report on 11:30 a.m. Call
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=117-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards: Committed to Ensuring Nevada Does Not Become A Nuclear Waste Repository
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=108-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards 2004 Releases Bush-Cheney Ad Fact Check: "Ownership"
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=133-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards Campaign Response to Bush Radio Address
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=104-08 ...

Kerry Campaign Response to Latest Misleading Bush-Cheney Ad - 'Clockwork'
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=146-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards 2004 Fact Sheet: Aug. 6 Anniversary -- Three Years Later, Problems Still Exist
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=131-08 ...

Kerry Statement on Latest Jobs Numbers
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=124-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards 2004: Halliburton Fined for Accounting Gimmicks While Cheney was CEO
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=140-08 ...

Kerry-Edwards Fact Sheet: Dick Cheney's Legislative Accomplishments ... Both of Them
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=142-08 ...

Kerry Campaign: George W. Bush - We Agree, Results Matter
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=125-08 ...

Kerry Campaign Reality Check: White House Claims on Implementing 9/11 Commission Recommendations
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=122-08 ...

Did He Really Say That? -- Kerry-Edwards Campaign Comment on Remarks by Sen. Zell Miller on 'Meet The Press'
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=103-08 ...

Kerry Criticizes Bush for Space Vision
http://www.space.com/spacenews/kerry_040616.html

Kerry criticizes Bush on military record
http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/26kerry.html

Kerry criticizes Bush for failed policies
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/8202438.htm ...

NPR : Kerry Criticizes Bush on Iraq
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1842198

USATODAY.com - Kerry criticizes Bush on Iraq, treatment of U.S. veterans
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/2003-08 -...

Yahoo! News - Kerry Criticizes Bush's Military Policy
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&u=/ap/200 ...

Kerry Criticizes Bush's Iraq Policy (phillyBurbs.com)
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/32-03182004-2664 ...

Kerry Criticizes Bush Policy On Haiti
http://www.mattapanonline.org/Kerry_on%20Haiti.htm

Report: Kerry Criticizes Bush Foreign Policy
http://www.evote.com/News/EV05202002B.html

washingtonpost.com: Kerry Criticizes President, Then Undergoes Surgery
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A40572-2004Mar ...

KSL News: Kerry Criticizes Bush Over Gay Marriage
http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?sid=77296&nid=6

ABC 7 News - Kerry Criticizes Bush on U.S. Security
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0304/132238.html

Democratic Underground Forums - Kerry Criticizes Bush's Definition of Values
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ...

washingtonpost.com: Kerry Criticizes Bush For Attacks on Clarke
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A29991-2004Mar ...

Kerry Criticizes Bush for Red Carpet Expense
http://www.townhall.com/news/politics/200406/POL2004061 ...

Yahoo! News - Kerry Criticizes Bush on Saudi Meeting
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&e=7 ...

RightNation.US -> Kerry Criticizes Bush for Red Carpet Expense
http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=42 ...

Kerry criticizes Bush for siding with drug companies in new ad
http://www.wtvo.com/Global/story.asp?S=1533926

USATODAY.com - Kerry criticizes Bush on meeting with Saudi leader
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/p ...

SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Politics -- Kerry criticizes Bush's Daytona 'photo opportunity'
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20040216-14 ...

Kerry criticizes Bush on Iraq, treatment of U.S. veterans
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archi ...

SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Politics -- Kerry criticizes Bush over oil report
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20040419-15 ...

FOXNews.com - You Decide 2004 - Kerry Criticizes Bush, Cheney on Military
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C118380%2C00.htm ...

ABC 7 News - Kerry Criticizes Bush for Bioethics Panel
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0204/129618.html

Kerry criticizes U.S. oil policies during Seattle campaign swing
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/175067_kerrystate.h ...

AP Wire | 07/10/2003 | Kerry Criticizes Bush on Education
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/62 ...

FOXNews.com - You Decide 2004 - Kerry Criticizes 'Separate and Unequal' Schools
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C120098%2C00.htm ...

Kerry criticizes Bush on nuclear threat, outlines plan to slow spread
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/8812087.htm ?...

AP Wire | 03/17/2004 | Kerry criticizes Bush for failed policies
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/8202438.htm

AP Wire | 03/14/2003 | Kerry Criticizes Bush on Diplomacy
http://www.dfw.com/mld/state/5388491.htm

KTVU.com - Politics - Kerry Criticizes 'Saudi-George Bush' Gas Tax
http://www.ktvu.com/politics/3346936/detail.html

News-Leader.com | True Ozarks | Kerry criticizes Bush on stem-cell, science policies
http://www.news-leader.com/_tuesday/0622-Kerrycriti-117 ...

Kerry criticizes Bush over gay marriage, broken promises after winning three more states
http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm18597_20040225.h ...

The Seattle Times: Kerry criticizes Bush's record on jobs, health care, terror
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2001863810_campai ...

The Seattle Times: Kerry criticizes firing of worker over photo
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2001912775_iraqdi ...

Kerry Campaign Criticizes Those Who Defend 'Outsourcing'
http://www.townhall.com/news/politics/200407/POL2004070 ...

KRT Wire | 07/15/2004 | Kerry criticizes Bush for rejection of NAACP invite
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/politics/9165213.htm

KR Washington Bureau | 07/16/2004 | Kerry criticizes Bush for intelligence failures in Iraq
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9174072.htm

KRT Wire | 03/17/2004 | Kerry Criticizes Bush for Failing to Protect Troops in Iraq
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/national /...

KSAT.com - News - Kerry Criticizes Bush During Speech In S.A.
http://www.ksat.com/news/2430649/detail.html

Capitol Hill Watch | Sen. Kerry Criticizes Wait List for Veterans Seeking Health Services
http://www.kaisernetwork.org/daily_reports/rep_index.cf ...

The Salt Lake Tribune -- Kerry criticizes Bush for failing to rally more allies
http://www.sltrib2002.com/2004/Jun/06292004/nation_w/17 ...

t r u t h o u t - Senator Kerry Criticizes U.S. Tactics
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9174072.htm

Kerry Criticizes Bush on 9/11 Response lans to Reimburse Familes for Body Armor
http://www.blog.johnkerry.com/cgi-bin/mt-comments.cgi?e ...

ABC13.com: John Kerry makes stop in Houston; criticizes Pres. Bush
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/042204_local_kerry.htm ...

KRT Wire | 12/03/2002 | Kerry proposes tax cuts, criticizes Bush tax policy
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/46579 ...

more


MSNBC - Kerry rips ‘character assassination’ of Clarke
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4615144

Democrat Kerry Still Critical of Bush Administration -- 12/14/2003
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page= \Politics\archive\200312\POL20031214a.html

NPR : Kerry Critical of Bush's Iraq Plans
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1837708

SignOnSanDiego.com > News > Politics -- Bush aides tout job growth, but Kerry critical
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/federal/200 ...

Kerry Says US Needs Its Own 'Regime Change'
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0403-08.htm

Kerry Responds to Combat Injury Questions (phillyBurbs.com)
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/32-04212004-2866 ...

John Kerry Responds To Draft Dodging GOP
http://www.bushalert.com/news/95

Lean Left: Kerry Responds with Ads
http://www.leanleft.com/archives/002883.html

ContraCostaTimes.com | 03/13/2004 | Kerry responds to Bush attack ad
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/817793 ...

NBC11.com - Politics - Kerry Responds To Charges He Tossed War Medals
http://www.nbc11.com/politics/3228428/detail.html

U.S. Newswire - Kerry Campaign Responds to Revised Terror Report
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=140-06 ...

swisspolitics.org | Kerry responds to Bush video
http://www.swisspolitics.org/en/news/index.php?section= ...

KTVU.com - Politics - New Kerry Ad Responds To Bush's Claims
http://www.ktvu.com/politics/2919181/detail.html

Kerry Campaign Responds to White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan Attacks ::
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_031 ...

MSNBC - Kerry blasts Bush over attacks on Senate voting record
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4344203

Kerry Attacks Bush's Military Policies
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2004 /...

Kerry Attacks Bush Foreign Policy
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/text5-28-2004-54778.as ...

Kerry attacks Bush on foreign policy
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/8461907.htm ...

IHT: Kerry attacks Bush on schools
http://www.iht.com/articles/518430.html

ABCNEWS.com : Kerry Attacks Bush Energy Policy
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/kerry ...

CNN.com - Kerry hits Bush reaction to 9/11 attack news - Aug 5, 2004
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/05/kerry.911

Kerry Attacks Bush On Tepid Jobs Growth
http://www.turkishpress.com/turkishpress/news.asp?ID=23 ...

WYTV - Kerry Attacks Bush in Valley Speech
http://www.wytv.com/news/headlines/698977.html

Kerry again attacks Bush administration
http://www.eagletribune.com/news/stories/20030426/FP_00 ...

John Kerry Attacks Bush on Stem Cell Research Policy
http://www.catholicexchange.com/vm/index.asp?vm_id=31&a ...

Herald.com | 04/06/2004 | Kerry attacks Bush's spending
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/politics/8364 ...

FOXNews.com - You Decide 2004 - Kerry Attacks Bush Compassionate Conservatism
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C122688%2C00.htm ...

The Left Coaster: Kerry Attacks Bush on Iraq, Veterans Issues At VFW Convention
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/000507.html

Kerry presses attacks on Bush
http://www.indystar.com/articles/0/160393-5460-093.html

Yahoo! News - Kerry Attacks Bush's Record on Defending Homeland
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=615&e=2 ...

Portsmouth Herald Local News: Kerry attacks aimed at Bush
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/02172004/news/351.ht ...

KTVU.com - Politics - Kerry Attacks Bush's Conduct Of War
http://www.ktvu.com/politics/3016233/detail.html

Kerry attacks Bush on science - (United Press International)
http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20040621-012423-2 ...

FOXNews.com - Politics - Kerry Attacks Bush While Defending Iraq Resolution Vote
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C92547%2C00.html

ABCNEWS.com : Kerry Sharpens Attacks Against Iraq War
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040618_118.html

Democratic Underground Forums - Kerry remembers Kennedy, attacks Bush
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ...

The Seattle Times: National politics: Kerry attacks Bush as divisive president
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationalpolitics /...

Kerry Attacks Bush On Education, Affirmative Action at Brown Anniversary Ceremony -- GOPUSA
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2004/may/0518_brown_annivers ...

RobBernard.com: Kerry attacks Bush team as "crooked" and liars
http://www.robbernard.com/archives/000990.html

Yahoo! News - Kerry attacks Bush terror policy after new al-Qaeda warning
http://article.wn.com/link/WNAT8D4D3C000A7949799ABB344C ...

USATODAY.com - Kerry blasts Bush over attacks on record
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/p ...

Kerry Campaign Attacks Cheney re: Halliburton
http://www.the-hamster.com/mtype/archives/001379.html

Kerry Sprinkles Jobs Message With Attacks on Iraq Policy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A195-2004Apr9 ?...

AP Wire | 12/02/2002 | Kerry Steps Up Attacks on Bush Policies
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/4644529.htm

Kerry report attacks Bush for the loss of U.S. jobs
http://www.newsisfree.com/click/i%2C41285835%2C3952%2Cr ...

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At UI, Kerry slams Bushonomics
http://www.dailyiowan.com/main.cfm/include/detail/story ...

ScrappleFace: Kerry Slams Bush Failure to Find New Threats
http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/001785.html

Salon.com | John Kerry slams Bush's "raw deal" for America
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2003/12/08/kerry_s ...

Worldandnation: Kerry slams Bush on environment record
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/04/21/Worldandnation/Kerry_ ...

Kerry slams job loss under Bush at Detroit event
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1155575/posts

Scotsman.com News - International - Kerry slams Bush for encouraging terrorism
http://article.wn.com/link/WNAT185BE9B267D1BAA6C007ABC2 ...

USATODAY.com - Kerry slams response to Iraq prison abuse
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/p ...

Kerry Slams 'Saudi-George Bush' Gas Tax (phillyBurbs.com)
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/32-05252004-3063 ...

Multichannel News - Kerry Slams Networks, Notes Cable DNC Coverage
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA442669?display=Br ...

CNN.com - Kerry slams Bush on terrorism - Feb. 27, 2004
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/02/27/elec04.prez.m ...

CNN.com - Kerry slams Bush on Iraq, military - Mar 19, 2004
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/17/kerry

FOXNews.com - You Decide 2004 - Kerry Slams Bush in NAACP Speech
http://www.hallindseyoracle.com/url_redirect.asp?Articl ...

The Seattle Times: Nation & World: Kerry slams Bush over gas prices
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/20019 ...

Yahoo! News - Kerry seeks minority support; slams Bush on poverty
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1506&e= ...

Kerry Slams Bush Over Iraq WMDs Joke
http://feeds.newzealandnews.net/?rid=c86e3126894b2ce6

Kerry finds gold, slams Bush in Bay Area visit / Exasperated senator calls GOP 'so petty'
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/cgi-bin/news/news.cgi?id ...

Scotsman.com News - International - Kerry slams 'crooked' rivals
http://www.news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=28215 ...

The Australian: Kerry slams Bush foreign policy
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page /...

Kerry bashes Bush on health care costs
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/8630863.htm ...

Kerry Bashes Bush on Health Care Costs (phillyBurbs.com)
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/32-05102004-2973 ...

Hispanic Business - Massachusetts Sen. Kerry Bashes Bush's Hispanic Agenda
http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/newsbyid.asp?id=76 ...

United Press International: Analysis: Kerry attack machine bashes Bush
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040217-061854-235 ...

Kerry bashes Bush tax cut proposal - iBerkshires.com - Business
http://housatonic.iberkshires.com/business/story9307.ht ...

Sen. Kerry Chides GOP (Self Proclaimed Patriots) on War Comments, Bashes Bush >> Hypocrites.com
http://www.hypocrites.com/article3738.html

Kerry courts rural voters on 3-day Midwest swing / He bashes president on weak economy, health insurance gap
http://article.wn.com/link/WNATFFEAC14FF83761822378754A ...

Star - Kerry steals rival's tune and bashes Bush over job losses
http://www.star.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=132&fArticle ...

Boston.com / News / Nation / Kerry questions Bush's wartime leadership
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/08/06/k ...

Kerry Questions Bush Iraq Policy
http://www.evote.com/News/EV09062002C.html

Kerry Questions Bush Attendance in Guard in 70's
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/hea ...

USATODAY.com - Kerry questions Bush on Iraq deadline
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/p ...

Indepements for Kerry : Questions for Bush on Iraq
http://www.independentsforkerry.com/info/index.php?cate ...

USATODAY.com - Sen. John Kerry questions Bush's credibility
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/benedett ...

Kerry Questions Bush Handling of Enron Investigation
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C125190%2C00.htm ...

[still_one]

34. When I say the debates he was pathetic, but I respect your view /nt

[MUAD_DIB]

11. HCR should have been passed months ago. I can understand the cynicism.

When the GOP became obstructionist the Dems tried to play the nice guys...as usual. If you never call them on it then they'll keep making the same mistakes.

I'm all for civility, but when you know the game plan of the other side which is to stop you at every turn just to stymie the will of the people, then I would say that the gloves should have come off on September 1.


I really don't like wasting time. Michael Moore is at least being honest about where he stands.

[Webster Green]

13. Yeah, blame the messenger.

The vast majority of them are fucking wussies. Moore is correct.

[bigtree]

14. why would I blame Moore for their actions?

It's his juvenile name-calling that I think is unnecessary and unhelpful - as well as the broad brush he uses to portray our elected Democrats.

[leeroysphitz]

21. The all too accurate name calling the tragically unavoidable broad brush.

But I agree with you completely about taking action in the primaries.

[Warren Stupidity]

36. If the foo shits...

How else can one characterize a political party that, in opposition was hapless and disorganized and unable to actually oppose anything other than wrecking social security, and in power was almost as weak and disorganized as it was in opposition and completely unable to effect any substantial change?

We've squandered the two years we had to push real change, to get something done. Instead our party is going to get hammered in November for the mess the country is in economically and the incomprehensible failure to do anything other than pander to Wall Street billionaires.

[laughingliberal]

6. I love Michael Moore! nt

[NikRik]

12. They have been ever since Clintons 2 terms been over !

It seems like since bush came to office the Dems have been weak. Letting bush basicially do what he wanted and never taking any action. After the repugs trying to kick Clinton out of office for the entire eight years he was President! Now we have a Dem Pres.again and you think that would give the Dems some courage to tell the repugs to sit down and watch while they fix all of bushes screw ups ! No intead you barely hear a peeep out of them about how bushes 8 years destroyed this countries economy put millions out of work and wasted trillions of $ on a endless war ! I have always been a loyal Dem and will remain one, however Iam sick of the lack luster approach the Dems are using,they need to get tough . We sure do a good job a war and prisons. However creating jobs and putting millions of people back to work with full time jobs still seems much to low on the priority list of things to do . Those like me out of work cant keep waiting we need jobs NOW !!!!
Thank You Nik

[MicaelS]

15. I'd call Moore on it, and tell him....

OK, if you think they're such a bunch of wusses, then you put your ass, your money, your dignity AND your safety on the line and run for office. And if you win, then let's see how much you really accomplish in office. If he says no, then ask him, "If Al Franken can do it, why not you?"

Then the other question I would ask him is "If Progressives in Hollywood are so politically committed, then historically, why is it only Republicans from Hollywood running for office and winning?"

[laughingliberal]

17. So, everyone with an opinion about our government should run for office

or STFU? Or just the ones you disagree with? Back in my day as a journalism major, there was this concept of the 4th estate which meant that a free press was considered an additional layer of checks and balances on the government. It was believed, back in those times, to have an important place in Democracy. But now, I guess, we've come to a time when no one dare speak out about what's going on unless they want to run for office and do it, themselves. Does that include all the citizens that have a right to seek redress from the government for grievances? Those elections could get pretty crowded, if so.

[MicaelS]

18. No, only the rich ones who complain all the time

And could easily afford to self-finance their own campaign.

I noticed you dodged the really hard question:

"If Progressives in Hollywood are so politically committed, then historically, why is it only Republicans from Hollywood running for office and winning?"

[laughingliberal]

19. So, a rich journalist must STFU or run for office?

Couldn't they just continue to be a source of information for citizens to help them make informed choices?

Only poor journalists are allowed to tell us the truth without being required to run for office? No place for any other type of activism except running for office. As I said, that field is going to get awfully crowded.

I remember when Ed Shultz was asked to run for Senate. I, and many others, felt his voice reached more people right where he is. I feel the same way about Moore.

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[MicaelS]

20. No,

But it seems too many of those most vocal about the problems faced and the solutions needed, never want to really step up and put their reputation on the line. Are we only to have businessmen and lawyers to choose from for public office? They haven't done all that great a job IMO. Journalists can take refuge behind the First Amendment when they screw up, BUT you cannot hide behind the First Amendment, (and yes I meant that and all that implies) when you're an elected public servant who is called to account for your actions and misdeeds. I wonder just how many of national level journalists could really stand the daily pressure involved in being a politician at the national level. Personally I think damn few. Given the fact that damn few national level journalist have ever run for and won public offices tells me a great deal about them. And since polls consistently show most journalist consider themselves Democrats, that really tells me a lot about them.

And I think Franken has 100x time the courage of Moore, I'd vote for Franken for President in a second.

[laughingliberal]

23. So, if they can't stand up to the pressure of public office they must STFU

And private citizens who believe we still have a right to seek redress from our government? Run for office or STFU? Sorry, I do believe in the 1st amendment.

There is a place for journalists whether they want to run for public office or not. Just as I'm an activist nurse who has been involved in the battle for health care reform. The fact that I choose to stay a nurse and not run for office does not negate my right to speak out about our government.

I get it you don't think much of Michael Moore but I think he serves a function and he has 100x the courage of the corporate media whores they serve up to us on network and cable news. Funny, when Bush was in office, we seemed to admire our media in exile who were trying to get the truth to us.

[MicaelS]

24. Yolu're right...

I don't think much of Michael Moore, and I think less of the "talent" in Hollywood. And no, I don't think they, or anyone who seeks redress should have to STFU. I would just tell Moore and the rest of his Hollywood cohort that I think THEY are a bunch of spineless wimps.

As Molly Ivins would say if she were still alive, "Those dogs are all bark and not one damn bit of bite."

[laughingliberal]

25. I loved Molly but I don't remember her running for office. nt

[MicaelS]

26. Nope, she didn't, I wish she had

And despite all your protestations, I think many liberal journalist and entertainers are wussies. Too bad you don't like that, but that is my opinion and I stand by it.

And just so you don't think that I'm only bashing Democrats... every Conservative "commentator" and "corporate media whores" who bleats about how awful and ineffective government is, who chooses not to run for office, is also a wimp. Limbaugh being number one. Limbaugh couldn't handle being an elected official for one day.

[laughingliberal]

27. I don' t like or not like it. I just disagree

People can fill different roles in society and still have an opinion. I think it does take courage to stand up against the corporate powers as a journalist. Many find their careers crashing around them when they speak out against the wrong people. I'm grateful for the ones who make it through the filters.

Wasn't it Jefferson who said if his choice was newspapers with no government or government with no newspapers he would choose newspapers with no government?

[HughBeaumont]

16. Read my lips:

You're never going to have a progressive candidate in the White House. You just aren't.

America isn't ready for one. They just aren't. It's far easier to just associate all things Democratic with the U.S.S.R. than it is to think and put 2 and 2 together.

Our media is owned by arch-right wing corporations that really, REALLY HATE the Democratic party and would like nothing better than to see them fail. Why do they hate them? Simple. They give people hope that things are going to change, and they don't WANT that. Everyone IN THEIR STATION and have the good goddamned SENSE to STAY there.

Ever heard of the expression "It's not enough that I succeed, but that everyone ELSE must FAIL"? There it is. The situation Republican corporate power holders want for this country is this:

"I have and continue to pursue EVERYthing. You can TRY to get a smidgen, but at the same time, I'm going to do my absolute godDAMNdest to make SURE you don't get it. This is a one-horse hill, Sonny Jim, and you ain't invading my space!"

Should any progressive candidate survive the media onslaught and miraculously win the primary over the DLC candidate and over the "painted-as-a-moderate-for-now" GOP candidate, they'd be shot dead within 6 months to a year tops.

The only people that are allowed to succeed in this country . . . are the ones that are already successful. This door's closing, it IS a race, and the more people that are left behind, the happier the ones in front will BE.

There is no more "when all do well, we ALL do well". No more. You're dealing with well-monied people who truly believe in this shitheap called Unbridled Corporatism, that it's a game that's meant to be won or lost and who truly believe people that lose and never recover get "their character built" or "learn a life's lesson". Oh, and you're also dealing with millions of useful idiots that believe it right along with them, even as they're getting pushed off the cliff.

Corporate America IS sabotaging American progress. Disagree all you want; stats don't lie. Zero net job creation in a decade, despite the lowest top marginal tax rate in 75 years. Near-40 year wage stagnation. Higher education is getting more costly and harder to attain. Pensions are being eliminated. Risks of all kinds have been shifted from the employer to the worker. Insurance conglomerates have ruined health care and refuse to even cover a PENNY of any major illnesses in some cases.

"Wusses" - the truth is, they can't WIN. Moderation is "milquetoast". Bipartisanship is "selling out". Progressivism is "SOSHULISM MARXIST USSR, Etc, etc." I'd love it if they reined in corporate power. They'd probably have to stay away from small planes, however.

[athenasatanjesus]

29. +1

[closeupready]

22. It's less about cowardice and more about crookedness.

Though I agree with Moore's underlying feeling about many of the current crop of Dems.

[CornerBar]

28. Moore

is getting braver. Good for him.

[GreenTea]

32. "A bunch of (corporate paid-off) wusses".

[kctim]

33. The good ol m&m

just can't stand the fact that most Democrats do not share all of his "convictions." He is just pissed because they have the courage to stand and fight for what they believe instead of what HE believes in.