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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 12:30 PM Original message |
Obama’s Ronald Reagan Moment |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. Completely ridiculous. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. If you're right, it then follows inevitably that Obama is an anti-labor scumbag. |
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warm regards (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
59. Demanding that teachers do what they are paid to do does not make Obama |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 11:24 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Your boilerplate denial says more about you. |
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emsimon33 (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 02:51 AM Response to Reply #68 |
80. You are so right on this issue. |
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warm regards (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 05:15 AM Response to Reply #68 |
81. I expect people to do the job they are paid to do. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #81 |
101. Deleted message |
warm regards (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #101 |
109. Well, I suppose if Obama is Ronald Reagan, I could be a troll. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Democrats don't refer to unionism as "collectivism." |
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warm regards (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:38 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. They do call it collective bargaining, don't they? |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Different context, different meaning. |
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warm regards (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 05:03 AM Response to Reply #112 |
116. Not really... |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. People can make up their own minds how comparable they are. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. Isn't it Arne Duncan on the left? |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Yes and agreed. |
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Chisox08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:46 AM Response to Reply #29 |
87. Arne Duncan is a corporatist asshole |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. People voted for Obama to get us out of Iraq |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 12:58 PM Original message |
Then people are getting their wish. Comparing a school board's actions to Reagan's ultimatum |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. you've got to be kidding |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. No, I'm not kidding. It's ridiculous. n/t |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Might want to flesh out your defense a little better. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
65. 2 possible responses to this request for a fleshed out defense |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 01:55 AM Response to Reply #65 |
76. Seems like some regular posters prefer drive-by disruption. |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #65 |
88. I am betting on crickets. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 03:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
43. Shout it again. And again. And again. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
63. You're ridiculous. |
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warm regards (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
60. I didn't realize that Obama was involved in such low level decisions. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Where did he outline firing all the teachers in a failing school district? |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. The agenda = privatize the public schools, replace with private charters, resegregate the schools |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. I do want to congratulate the privatize public schools folks. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
57. If a man tells a woman that he will rape her at the end of the week, and at the end of that week, |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
69. LOL! The DLC apologists waste no time defending the right rear flank... |
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Yuugal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 06:05 AM Response to Reply #69 |
82. +1 |
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freddie mertz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:04 AM Response to Reply #69 |
89. Thanks for telling it like it is. |
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disillusioned73 (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #69 |
91. You just inspired a new DU logon user... |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #69 |
95. Great post |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #69 |
106. Fabulous post.Should be a stand alone OP! |
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Spheric (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
108. Exactly. This should be its own OP. |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #69 |
114. +1 zillion ... |
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gleaner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 06:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
117. Yes they are ... |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Democratic leadership is so out of phase - |
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gleaner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-06-10 01:46 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Thanks .. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. You nailed it. When Obama praised Reagan, we all hoped he was just bullshitting. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. When Obama praised Reagan, we all hoped he was just bullshitting. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. That's what I believed. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Im with ya |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. One doesn't have to read too much between the lines |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Raygun was merely performing |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. Being lost in a fog seems like an easy way out for anyone responsible for such missery |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. I wouldn't want |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:27 AM Response to Reply #54 |
92. accountability through karma |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #92 |
99. I recall the |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
107. That 8% was supposed to be a guideline but was used to extract more money from the working poor. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:07 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. Does this still go on? |
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unapatriciated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. I'm sure it has gone up. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. +1 |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Not "all" of us. Those who pointed at the red flag caught hell on DU, too. |
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557188 (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. EXACTLY |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. The shock and intense reaction to the Reagan talk have two explanations: |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. you stated it very well. discussion is there, if you click on Discuss. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. Yup. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
44. When I quoted Reagan worship as reason for my choice of candidate, I was told: |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Obama was an adult, old enough to understand NOW how his praise of Reagan would resonate |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Exactly |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 01:59 AM Response to Reply #48 |
77. Strongly agree. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #23 |
97. +1 nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. Deleted message |
Eric Condon (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. Actually, I interpreted it as him slamming Clinton |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. That will teach all of us a lesson for supporting a person who doesn't mean what he says... |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
55. Yeah, I didn't get that at the time. |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
94. I knew absolutely that when BI praised RR that he was bad news. |
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CornerBar (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
4. Ouch |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. With an expanding population and an ever expanding empire |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. Reagan set the standard as Obama is doing today with teachers. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
11. Obama has made teachers the "welfare queens" of this administration. |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. +1 |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Perfect!- "Especially if they teach poor kids in poor neighborhoods who don't speak English well" |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
20. McCamy...I always enjoy your |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
25. "Trajectory" was a huge red flag |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Thank you for the most excellent links! |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. you betcha. |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. I must confess reading the linked threads give me the chills... |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. "we all hoped he was just bullshitting....." |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Indeed... |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
30. He and Reagan share a disdain for certain minorities |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Yep. nt |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Obama's racist? |
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ipaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Classist. |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
36. KR, excellent post and interesting comments in the thread! |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
37. He sounds more and more like a Republican. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
98. Acts like one too. nt |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
45. K&R I know this link has been shown before |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Very funny. Thanks for the link. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. I figure the media will cinch the nomination |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
58. "Excesses of the 1960s and 1970s" ? Useless phrase. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
61. I didn't know anyone was still willfully distorting that comment. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #61 |
70. It's not distorted. It made it very clear that the Obama admin would continue Reaganism as they have |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
62. What "trajectory" has the Obama administration changed? |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Obama's gotten more done already than any other president in the last 40 years |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 01:21 AM Response to Reply #64 |
74. That bit of hype has zero to do with changing the trajectory |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:34 AM Response to Reply #74 |
84. Well, actually it does. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #84 |
90. The claims match up perfectly with the reality |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #90 |
103. Except that they don't. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
66. K & R nt |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-03-10 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
67. Not this bullshit again. "he just tapped into what people were already feeling" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:11 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Deleted sub-thread |
amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
72. Obama's had *many* Reagan moments, such as choosing reaganomics Summers as Econ Advisor |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
73. Deleted message |
hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
75. speaking of divide and conquer |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
78. Ronald Reagan, the actor |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
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DisgustedInMN (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
83. Is it ok to post hero worship of Ronnie Raygun here? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
85. pitiful |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #85 |
96. Blue moon. Completely agree. |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #85 |
105. Anyone who wants to exercise their reading comprehension skills can see... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
86. When you strip off "the masks" they both resemble THIS: |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
93. We get the government we deserve. Not the one we need. |
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NM_hemilover (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
100. What, he fell asleep and forgot where he was ? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
102. Of course you completely miss the point |
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leeroysphitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
104. Why couldn't you have just put "Central Falls" in the thread title and saved me |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
118. Great post.. The OFA/DLC right wingers are squirming (again) and this is good -nt |
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