All of you disgruntled HCR people, here's your chance to kill the bill.

[Skidmore]

Come on, put our money where your mouth is. Put up or shut up. Frankly, I'm sick of purity tests. I'm done with listening to the red faced tantrums of the all or nothing crowd. I'm looking for a foundation to build on. But I thought I'd direct the interested down an avenue to stop this horrid bill because we all need to make certain that if we got ours, we keep it, or that if we don't have ours, no one else gets it either.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2009/12/07/klaymans-next-law-suit-target-obamas-healthcare-reform.html

Join Klayman and his groups in a class action suit against the President. Never mind that Congress has been screwing the public over for the past year. We don't need to bother with the nuts and bolts of government structure. Let's just decapitate the system and make certain that no one gets relief for health care and the current system is maintained. You'll join the rest of the uninsured eventually when the costs and premiums are out of reach for all but those in the upper income brackets. In the meantime, Klayman has your back and he says he has your interests at heart. He's speaking for you and would like people to sign on. In fact, he told Dylan Ratigan that his similar suits agains the Clinton administration were the reason HCR died on the vine during that administration.

Here's your chance.

Note: I'm not attaching the sarcasm avatar for a reason.

[Junkdrawer]

1. I guess more posts like this are on the way now that the Senate bill....

is due to be pushed down the House's throat.

Yum.

[leveymg]

2. "All or nothing" was Single Payer or "I :heart: Blue Cross".

Not many of either type left, even around here. So, you've got a nice straw man to pick on. :hi:

There's a reason Larry Klayman never wins a law suit. He should go back to PI cases.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

3. If the bill gets passed

and I am notified that I am now required to purchase health insurance or face a fine, the first time I get hit with that fine I will be looking for a class action lawsuit to join. :shrug:

[backwoodsbob]

4. yep..shove through a mandate without any meaningful reform

and we will get slaughtered come November

[Hell Hath No Fury]

5. That would be a big, fat "yup".

I feel like Kevin McCarthy in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" warning everyone of the coming menance. :(

[Bobbie Jo]

6. K&R

:kick:

[Lyric]

7. Know what I'm sick of even more than purity tests?

Fake Democrats who make purity tests necessary in order for the rest of us to hold onto some small idea of what this party is supposed to stand for. When the "left" party ceases to be different enough from the "right" party to matter to ordinary people, then ordinary people won't bother voting for the "left" party anymore. What seems like an ENORMOUS political difference to us, the politics junkies, doesn't seem so important or obvious to the average people who aren't as politically aware. The American electorate is not much for subtlety. But keep blurring the lines, by all means. When ordinary people can no longer say with conviction, "I vote for the Democrats because they staunchly advocate for X* and firmly oppose Y**, just like me", then they won't be loyal Democratic voters anymore. They'll be people hanging out at the buffet to see which party's candidate sounds better THIS year.

*Insert purity test of your choice (the right to choose, gay rights, affirmative action, separating church and state, increased public assistance, public education, etc.)

**Insert traditional conservative position of your choice (overturning Roe v. Wade, discrimination against gays, revoking affirmative action policies, putting "God" back in our schools, ending welfare, privatizing education, ad nauseum.)

When you have no lines in the sand, you are nothing at all. Nothing.

[xchrom]

8. Democratic party equals rim jobs for corporations.

That's not very pure is it?

[depakid]

9. Building on a foundation where you further enrich and empower parasitic health insurers

and creating incentives that spread high deductible, high copay junk insurance to more and more of the population ain't much of a way forward...

Nor will the current legislation put a dent in the appallingly high rate of medical bankruptcies in America, according to researchers.

But you go on ahead and call those who point this (and many other consequences) out "purists" or some other such insult.

Probably makes you feel better- and helps to quell the cognitive dissonace that goes along with the knowledge that the most that so many of your "leaders" are willing to fight for amounts to poor public policy, riddled with unpopular and ineffective provisions.

They've essentially called you second class citizens of the world- undeserving of the care and financial security that other western nations take for granted- and pay far less for.

[customerserviceguy]

10. Well said

It was ironic that the President called the Repuke "clean sheet of paper" incrementalism.

We just didn't have the votes for it this Congressional cycle, we will come back with progressives after the tea baggers mess everything up in the next cycle. By that point in time, the economy should be back on track, President Obama can take credit for it, and some true change can come to this country.

[Junkdrawer]

11. Yes, but do they get the same excellent Kabuki Theater we do?

I think not!

How about that Joe Lieberman / Jim Bunning?