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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:02 PM Original message |
Hopefully nobody has forgotten that it’s National Grammar Day |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ain't that the truth ! |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. NOOOOO!!! |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. I dodn't recollect dat one. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. **screaming** I HATE "irregardless"!! Why are you giving people the OK |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Eventually everything will be dumbed down enough |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
106. I have news for you. This is how languages change. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. oh, they should be pitied |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Oh no! Not "bless their hearts!" |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. yep -- that phrase always cracks me up |
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Greenpeach (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. How about excetera and exspecially? |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Folage?? |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. I spent years cringing |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Well, Merriam Webster now lists NUKE-Yu-Lar as acceptable |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. 1-2 Yes, 3-4 Fine, 5-6 Not until you pry the red pen from my cold, dead hand. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. 5 I can understand -- but can you elaborate on 6 |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Bucks are not books. "Less than" does not work with countables that are |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. well, I agree that bucks are not books, but not that you can't use less than w/ individual items |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:28 PM Original message |
Because most people don't use the linguistic dodge cited as an example. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
96. Sums up my feeling as well. Hopefully, a consensus can be found. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yay! Three cheers for illiteracy! nt |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. these are illogical and fake rules, and have nothing to do with illiteracy |
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planetc (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. Churchill, asked about ending sentences with prepositions: |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
97. Harvard version - when asked about ending sentences with prepositions: |
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Demoiselle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. Rule number seven: |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. Good one.. |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
71. that trippin' me talk more better now , right?...nt |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
98. Feeling badly... |
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Demoiselle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #98 |
112. EGGzackly! |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
11. I wonder if we have a National Spell Check day? |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #11 |
69. "Spell Check is for cowards!" |
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planetc (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
15. It would be helpful to get over our fear of English teachers. nt |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
16. who came up with this oh-so-convenient little list? is it yours? if so, on what do you base your |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. it's mine |
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John1956PA (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Congratulations on your well-written essay. |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Oh, well, in that case |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. those aren't very good analogies |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #42 |
66. The rules are not arbitrary |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Ah but double negatives are not operative in all grammars of modern english |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 01:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. Sure they are |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
87. Actually the rules ARE arbitrary. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 08:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. Those are spelling mistakes, not grammatical ones. |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #49 |
67. Since when is "of" a misspelling of "have"? n/t |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 03:51 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. "Of" and "-'ve" sound identical. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. Read up on the lingusitics of the actual English language. |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. My own personal opinion is that I have seventy different friends. |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
21. I ain't remember that stuff too good. |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. I believe I shall call bullshit on Nos. 5 and 6, at least. |
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heli (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
25. Had no idea it’s National Gramma Day |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Would be wicked awesome if all my Grammas wasn't dead |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
40. Can't you read good? |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
28. Irregardless is not a word as long as jobycom insists that it is. |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
29. #5: BULLSHIT! |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Yeah, I was going to say something about that "inflammable" comparison. |
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John1956PA (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I have read that "inflammable" and "flammable" refer to two different concepts. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. it's true that they can have slightly different inflections |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
50. if people use it then it's a word. |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. By that logic "a'ight" is a word. |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
90. Yes, "a'ight" is definitely a word. |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. No, it is incorrect usage of a real word. |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. It's not linguistic obfuscation, it's linguistic fact. |
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arbusto_baboso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. I am unconvinced. |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. Your problem is that you're confusing prescriptive correctness with |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Oh, felgercarb! |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Does it have a meaning that an average person can discern? |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. In context, it did indeed. |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. True enough. Well then, for fans of that particular show, |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #104 |
116. But it's not a word for everyone else? |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
35. Sorry |
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KT2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
37. Your sposta |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
39. Oh please, it's my fucking birthday... |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. You betcha! |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Happy fucking birthday! |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Haha, thanks! |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
44. I need a personal editor n/t |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
46. 7. "Ain't" IS a word. It's an old contraction of "am not". |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
47. I never don't forget. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
51. I can understand the changing of language and grammar, BUT |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. It depends on the sentence, the beats, the sound and the emphasis. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
53. Hopefully COMMA no ONE has forgotten it’s National Grammar Day. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. stet |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Then, until next time, I remain ... |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
86. Like you, I noticed that oversight. n/t |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
54. To boldy grammatically go where no man has gone before |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Probably Churchill. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 07:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
105. You win |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
56. I enjoyed that! You should write a grammar book. |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
57. Duh! Corse eye new it wuz grhammer day |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Yes, every day. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
61. Also spelling, too |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
62. Also spelling, too |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-04-10 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
63. Ain't that sweet? |
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Rincewind (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
65. It are? |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
72. My contribution |
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CanonRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
73. Grammar was never my strong suit. |
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Jim__ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
74. "Eats, Shoots and Leaves" |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Not as bad as Freeperland, but we're closing in.... |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. A similar book I'd like to read is "The Lexicographer's Dilemma" |
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zanana1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
77. I ain't forgot about grammer day. |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
79. Not I. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Turning nouns into verbs is a perfectly normal part of English. |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Maybe so, but it just irks me. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. "Smacks of laziness" is a value judgement, not a valid linguistic argument. |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
81. It are? |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
83. I disagree with the boning/deboning the fish example. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 08:15 PM Response to Reply #83 |
107. !!! |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
88. I did not know nothing about that. nt |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
89. Very unique and most unique are acceptable..unique means one-of-a-kind, so certainly |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 06:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. What? |
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Demoiselle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-06-10 01:54 PM Response to Reply #89 |
117. How can something be even more unique than not having anything else like it? |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
93. Some of the replies to this thread are a linguist's worst nightmare. |
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reflection (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 08:23 PM Response to Reply #93 |
108. Well played, sir/madam. n/t |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 09:57 PM Response to Reply #93 |
110. Colorless Green Nightmares even! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 10:51 PM Response to Reply #93 |
113. I keep saying that and get crucified for it. |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
100. I'm organizing a book burning ... |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #100 |
109. haha! |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Well, okay ... |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. I'll have to check out Language Log |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-05-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #100 |
114. That book needs to be banned from all English departments. |
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Poiuyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-06-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #100 |
118. You should read the book "Spunk and Bite." |
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