Nevada poll: Sen. Reid 38%, Sue Lowden (R) 51%; 45% have favorable opinion of Tea Party

[Bluebear]

:banghead:

Two of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s Republican challengers have again crossed the 50% threshold and now hold double-digit leads in Nevada’s U.S. Senate race. One big hurdle for the incumbent is that most Nevada voters are strongly opposed to the health care legislation championed by Reid and President Barack Obama.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of likely voters in the state finds Sue Lowden, ex-chairman of the Nevada Republican Party, with a 51% to 38% lead on Reid. Seven percent (7%) prefer some other candidate, but just three percent (3%) are undecided.

Businessman Danny Tarkanian posts a similar 50% to 37% lead over the embattled Democratic leader....

Forty-five percent (45%) have a favorable view of the so-called Tea Party movement. Thirty percent (30%) view it unfavorably, and 25% are not sure what they think.

Only 23% of the state’s voters consider themselves part of the Tea Party movement.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/nevada/election_2010_nevada_senate

[defendandprotect]

1. Anyone from Nevada here . . ? No liberals/progressives in NV . . .everyone loves T-baggers?

What would putting a real liberal/progressive Dem into this race actually do?

They all love war? No health care?

[laughingliberal]

6. I live in Northern Nevada, a very conservative part of the state

We do have more registered Democrats statewide than Republicans but it is not helping Reid at this point. He has always had to run a pretty centrist campaign in order to stay in office but has governed a little to the left. I think his role as Senate leader has hurt him with the electorate, here, as the image of being ineffectual has become gospel. The entire Senate is dysfunctional and, being the leader, he becomes the face of that.

A lot of the Democrats in southern part of the state are of the left leaning variety. That group is pissed about the form health care reform has taken, much like the liberal MA voters. Not that they are against health care reform, they are against THIS health care reform.

Our state is in horrible shape. We are 2nd in unemployment, 2nd in home foreclosures, 1st in negative home equity. Nobody here is very happy with anyone right now. Our governor is a horrible Republican whose answers to our state's budget crisis has been draconian cuts to education and he wants to opt out of Medicaid. He is universally hated right now but it's not translating into votes for Democrats. His Republican challengers are kicking his ass but the only Democrat in the race is Reid's son.

Reid will, likely, lose to one of these truly horrible Republicans. The only glimmer of hope is he has a huge war chest and is way ahead in money he can spend on his campaign and his 20 year battle to stop Yucca mountain seems to have been won, for now. Most people here do believe we would already have the country's garbage in our backyard had it not been for his efforts so he gets grudging credit for this.

[defendandprotect]

34. Lot of bad news there for Nevada . . .

So majority Democrats in the state -- and a horrible Repug governor --

and no liberal/progressive rising to challenge Reid?

And Reid's "son" is running for Governor??? What's he like?

What's happened with unemployment there? Of course, everything seems to be the trade

agreements, but aren't you loaded with natural resources? Forgive me if I'm wrong; I'm

not looking up anything. What about gambling in the state -- is that failing now?

If he's won the "Yucca Mouuntain/waste battle," I would imagine that his leadership position

has helped there.

How are you doing with right wing Christians there --? MIC?

And are you ever suspicious of the voting results given computer voting?

Now or in the past?


If you have the time to reply ... thank you!!


:)

[laughingliberal]

55. Reid's son has been very quiet. Hard to tell he's running

Maybe he's waiting til after the field of Republicans gets sorted out.

Unemployment here is not budging. Still horrible. For instance, I've had a resume out to several temp nursing agencies for over a year and just got a call from one this past week. It's bad when even nurses are scraping for work. I think ER and ICU nurses are still in big demand but others not so much. The hospitals are suffering from low census and struggling. When people aren't working, they don't have insurance. The OR is generally a big money maker for a hospital but with very few coming in for elective surgeries, I am sure that revenue is way off.

Gaming is way down. Tourism is suffering.

We do have a lot of natural resources but they are all in the hands of the corporations. Mining is big here and they are, currently, whining cause the legilature has been considering a miniscule tax to help offset our horrendous budget shortfall.

Defeating Yucca mountain was probably 98% due to the efforts of Reid over 20 years. He may have gotten a small nudge from it but may not be enough to save his Senate seat.

I'm not very tuned in to the religious communities here so not sure about them. There is an air force base down towards Vegas and, of course, we have Area 51 but we don't know much about them.

As for the voting machines, we had a Secretary of State (R) who is now our congressman. A very (R) voting record but he was quite fair and even handed as SofS. He insisted any voting machines the state purchased would have a paper trail. That said, I did have friends who had the experience of seeing the touchscreen change their vote from Kerry to Bush and they had to try several times and finally call someone over to help.

That's about all I know except things are pretty drastic here.

[cowman]

24. Yeah I'm

from NV. I'm a 30 year veteran of the Las Vegas Fire and Rescue and I take great umbrage at being described as pro war and anti health care, I want reform just not this mess from Washington. Since when has Wa. been able to run anything within budget? As a Paramedic I treat people all the time and I can tell you that the HCR is highly unpopular and that is the one issue that has Reid way down in the polls. And in the rural parts of NV where I live, HCR is even more unpopular and Reid is liked even less.

[newspeak]

65. well, I'm from southern Nevada

And those who voted for Gibbons, especially after the business conflict of interest and the alleged assault on the cocktail waitress deserve what they get. When Nevadans state they won't vote for Dina Titus because she's got an accent, then some fools can vote for the fools. Yeah, up north where it's Cheney country and going up there a couple months ago, I passed a couple of signs stating "anyone butt Reid." Also, as other state workers were being laid off or wages cut, Gibbons raised the wages for his aides, because y'all know they deserved it.

If a truly progressive challenged Reid, I'd vote for him/her, but I'm not going to "cut off my nose to spite my face" by voting for another repuke like Gibbons or Ensign!!!

And, to me, as written, the health insurance reform bill looks like a good repuke bill with a little something for the people, so let the kabuki theater begin!

[FiveGoodMen]

2. Without the Fairness Doctrine, this is what we can expect

Hour upon hour, day after day of unanswered propaganda makes for a stupid populace.

[laughingliberal]

7. +1 nt

[cowman]

28. You can take the

Fairness Doctrine and shove it. If it passed Liberal talk shows would have to put on Conservatives also and personally I son't want to listen to some idiot. Leave it as is

[FiveGoodMen]

30. I took you off ignore so that I could tell you to shove it right back.

Neo-cons will always bankroll their propaganda shows no matter if they make money or lose it.

Glenn Beck is broadcasting with almost no sponsors, but he's still telling the desired lies, so he's still on the air.

With the Fairness Doctrine, these right-wing shows would crumble. The need to balance their hate-screeds -- minute for minute -- with reality-based responses would take all of the wind out of their sails.

Meanwhile, it might also interfere with left-wing commentators, but we mostly have those in order to push back against the deluge of crap coming from Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, and so on.

The net change would be greatly in our favor.

[cowman]

33. And if

Liberal talk shows where more interesting we would stand a better chance, why do you think Air America is no longer around? They were BORING, and when they got rid of Randi Rhodes is when I said no more. I damn sure don't want the Govt having that kind of power, they have way to much power already. BTW, I don't give a shit if you put me on ignore or not. It's just not that important in my life what you think of me

[Cerridwen]

41. You're confusing the Fairness Doctrine with the Equal Time Rule.

It is ever thus. BTW, most of the arguments against the Fairness Doctrine *and* the Equal Time Rule, come from the right.

Here's the wiki link (which is acceptable for this long dead and non-controversial-ish issue).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule

[depakid]

51. Those who think like that pretty much deserve the dishonest media that they get

Trouble is, like most shortsighted and ill informed sorts- you also end up collectively screwing everyone else and the nation as a whole.

[newspeak]

69. but neo-cons do get more access

Rush Limpballs, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Bill O'lliely, absurd Michelle Malkin. And, didn't ya know that Faux network won a judgement that declared they can lie to the public? Let's see, how many times have they shown a repuke in trouble with a (D) behind their name? Now once, I'd say that's a mistake; more than once, I'd say it's on purpose for an ignorant audience.

And the lies repukes have been stating about reconciliation and filibustering--as they're given access by the major networks, to keep repeating the same lies over and over again, without much calling out by the network's talking heads.

yeah, about right now, the fairness doctrine would be refreshing.

[dysfunctional press]

64. let it go, already...the 'fairness doctrine' isn't coming back.

[Individualist]

3. "If it's a choice between

a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat. _ Harry S. Truman, May 17, 1952

[KingFlorez]

4. Interestingly enough, they didn't include the tea party candidate

Of course, Rasmussen didn't want to make the Republicans numbers collapse, so obviously they wouldn't include it. If the right-wing vote is split, the Republicans won't win here.

[Bluebear]

5. Tea Party isn't fielding anyone

[Emit]

8. Yes they are! Jon Ashjian

By JOSH KRAUSHAAR | 3/2/10

Businessman Jon Ashjian filed today for the Nevada Senate race against Democratic Sen. Harry Reid on the tea party ballot line, and his third-party candidacy could have an impact in a close contest.

A Mason-Dixon poll conducted last week for the Las Vegas Review-Journal showed a generic tea party candidate could split the conservative vote and hand Reid the race. The poll showed Reid winning 36 percent of the vote, with a generic Republican at 32 percent and a tea party candidate at 18 percent.

~snip~
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/33794.html#ixzz0hKe6kXGU

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/33794.html

It will help Reid, imho - it'll split the votes - and here in Nevada, the local right wing hate talk shows are all in a tizzy that the Tea Party is running someone against Reid, because they know the potential outcome, lol. Let's see how this plays out and see whether the ptb in the local Repub party leans on this tea party candidate to pressure him to drop out - wouldn't surprise me if they do.


edited to add text of story

[Jennicut]

22. This race depends on how well the Tea Party candidate will actually poll.

It is a 3 way race right now, and I wonder if the Tea Party candidate will pull off some voters from the Rethug. It looks like the Mason-Dixon poll showed that could happen.

[laughingliberal]

26. Teabaggers are our best hope for avoiding a really odious Republican Senator

We should all go out of our way to pump them up at this point. :)

[Emit]

38. Agreed, laughingliberal

hi neighbor - I'm a stone's throw away over in Reno :hi:

[laughingliberal]

11. They were as of Tuesday

Tea Party Shakes Up Nevada Senate Race

By Susan Davis

The latest entrant to the Nevada Senate race is adding a little intrigue and a new dynamic to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s re-election battle.

Scott Ashjian filed to run for the Senate today against Reid not as a Republican, but as the candidate for the Tea Party of Nevada, a new political party formed in January that has raised the suspicions of Tea Party activists in Nevada and elsewhere. They suspect Ashjian might be secretly working to help Reid get re-elected. <snip>

More at the link: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/03/02/tea-party-shakes-up-nevada-senate-race/

[Bluebear]

17. Thank you for for that info, it was indeed not cited in the poll!

[laughingliberal]

23. Clearly a sign it is a Rasmussen poll. nt

[Marr]

9. You know what's hilarious? After these corporate stooge Democrats

manage to get their party voted back into the minority in record time, the media is going to shout that it was because they were "too liberal".

[Zenlitened]

19. Sad, but very likely to be true. - n/t

[clowncar]

10. If Reid is not reelected, who would become Senate Majority Leader?

Hopefully, someone with a spine?

[laughingliberal]

12. Only one I've heard mentioned was Schumer. nt

[Individualist]

13. Naturally - another DLC member.

[clowncar]

15. Would he do any better? I would like to see Franken!!!!

He would get stuff done!

[Statistical]

42. Senority? That is how it usually works.

If Franken stays in the senate another 40+ years "maybe" he will be the majority/minority leader.

[Caliman73]

16. Probably not...

They passed over Pete Stark for Ways and Means. Chances are the Majority Leader will be Marvin Milquetoast.

[Jennicut]

21. Schumer or Durbin. It will most likely be between those two. I much prefer Durbin.

[AllentownJake]

14. Nevada has been one of the hardest hits states by the depression

I can't imagine many incumbents winning there.

[laughingliberal]

25. That's pretty much the bottom line, here. nt

[Political Heretic]

18. Reid has no one but himself to blame for this. He deserves to lose.

It's tragic that we don't have a strong alternative candidate to challenge him. But fear of republican victories is no longer a good enough reason to keep voting in the same do-nothing centrist status quo defenders. We need to change our party. And if a few republicans win some short term political victories while we are cleaning house, it won't outweigh the long term gains and our ability to take those seats back, keep them, and change the direction of this country rather than capitulate to corporate interests.

[demosincebirth]

27. you would vote for a republican against Reid?

[Alias Dictus Tyrant]

20. Nevada has a lot of true independents.

Generally speaking, Nevadans have a dislike of both the Democrat and Republican national parties. Consequently, they are loyal to neither.

There is a long and complex history as to why this is, but generally speaking they feel as though they get screwed by both.

Harry Reid represented the politically powerful Mormon bloc, which is how he got elected in the first place. That faction is in decline and I don't think they support Reid anymore in any case.

[cowman]

29. So true

I am one of those independents who normally votes Dem but not always. I voted for a Repub in the State Assembly District 36 because he had a lot of good ideas for education and the Dem candidate all she could do was bad mouth Repub and had no clue what was going on. So I generally vote Dem nationally and whoever has the best interest for the district I live in

[Cerridwen]

48. You fucking voted for a teabagger?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xv_GPBZi8I

Let me guess, you're in Pahrump or nearby?

You voted for a fucking teabagger.

[Alias Dictus Tyrant]

63. Lighten up, Francis

Neither Democrats nor Republicans in Nevada are too much in line with the national parties. If you are voting for the party instead of the person, that would make you an idiot.

The only thing to really know about Nevada is that the population has a well-known dislike for both Democrats and Republicans. The politicians are somewhat random and independent because it works against them to be sock puppets for the national parties. I view this as a good thing. As a consequence of this random walk, you frequently end up with Ds and Rs that look like they should have had their labels swapped. Anyone voting party line in Nevada is a moron.

[Cerridwen]

44. Really? Tell me how some of those "true independents" respond when

their gov't subsidized grazing "rights" come into question and they're expected to pay "market" rates.

[Alias Dictus Tyrant]

61. What the hell are you talking about?

Do you understand anything about the cost structure of grazing rights? Federal leases aren't expensive, but they are of low quality generally and come with a bunch of other headaches.

You can argue about the details of pricing, but it is in no way comparable to private land grazing. Private grazing land is typically far superior. The BLM needs run cattle on western lands anyway since they are a critical part of the ecosystem (they replace buffalo in the circle of life).

[AlinPA]

31. He's done. We need a real leader in the Senate. Hopefully we will hold the Senate. nt

[WeDidIt]

32. So, why didn't they test the Tea Party candidate?

Oh yeah.

Scott Rassmussen.

'Nuff said.

[TexasObserver]

35. Not surprised. I can't imagine Nevada voters are proud of him.

He's been historically weak and ineffective, truly the worst Democratic Majority leader in memory.

[Cerridwen]

57. Then your imagination needs fixing.

Harry isn't the greatest liberal, but he's one of the few "home grown" politicians we've got. He's done all right by NV given what he's had to work with all these years and given the influx of teabagger voting asswipes; like a couple of posters in this thread; who move here and vote their drooling ignorance.

He's far from perfect, but he's a damned sight better than that drunken frat-boy "born again" ya'll catapulted onto the national stage.

[TexasObserver]

58. You'd better check your delusions. Nevada poll: Sen. Reid 38%

He's worthless, and he's soon to be retired.

[Cerridwen]

59. In a sea of repubs and teabaggers backing the Democrat is delusional?

Yeah, I'm not surprised you'd say that. Perhaps I should be "pragmatic" and vote for the repub; or do you advise I vote the teabagger; maybe I should just not vote at all.

Is that the same poll that doesn't factor in the teabagger candidate? Why, yes, yes it is. It's already been addressed in this thread.

Oh, and by the way, repeating over and over that "he's worthless," doesn't make a case and it doesn't make it fact. It does however give cover to a lot of ignorant people who believe polls are reliable.

Ya'll have a nice day.

[TexasObserver]

66. Thinking he's going to win is delusional.

You act as if your only choices are Reid, Tea Baggers or Republicans.

I'd like to see Nevada retain his seat, but don't think it's possible for him to win it. That means another Democrat might be a better choice. Sticking with a bad hand is something that happens a lot in Las Vegas, of course. The party should recognize he's toxic and get a different nominee for the senate.

Just as George W. Bush is the worst president in a hundred years, Harry Reid is the worst Democratic majority leader in the past hundred years. Reid couldn't pass diddly with 60 votes.

His vote will be missed, but he won't.

[Emit]

70. Our only choices are Reid, Tea Baggers or Republicans

There are no other Democrats opposing Reid in the upcoming primary elections. Those are our only choices in November.

[TexasObserver]

73. I'm sorry to hear that. I thought you might have a primary challenger.

I always think it's up to the people of the state to decide, and I respect the choice another state makes for its senators. But I can still hope good ones get returned and bad ones get replaced.

Reid voted right most of the time. I don't really quibble with him on that account. It's his leadership I find lacking.

[newspeak]

68. check our delusions?

your talking about a state who voted for Gibbons, even after all the shite that came out about him before the election. Again, I'll take Reid over any of these repukes; but, if a truly progressive candidate would have challenged Reid, I'd vote for the challenger.

[bullwinkle428]

36. Lowden is a clown with a room-temperature IQ!! Rachel just showed

a campaign commercial of hers, in which she specifically states that she'll protect Medicare better than Harry Reid and the Health Care Reform bill will, BECAUSE "government-run health care is wrong"!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[cowman]

39. Laugh all

you want but she is kicking the shit out of Reid right now

[newspeak]

71. yeah, I'll say it again

a populace who voted for Gibbons, even though there were questions about his ethics during the election. I have little faith in some Nevada voters--they just digest their gods' (Limpballs, Beck) talking points and spew them out on any and everyone. Apparently, they don't have time to check facts or learn any amount of logic or history. And, today's teabaggers were created by corporate sponsorship and corporate media. It looks like a faux populist movement with major repuke backers (there's more than one way to get a repuke in office).

[spanone]

37. 2012 we'll be fighting the teaparty 110% of the time...the media loves them...they play well on tv

[liberalhistorian]

40. And yet the state probably greedily sucks down more federal

dough than many other states and greedily demands more all while railing against the fedrul' gubmint and claiming how independent and self-reliant they are. I know that culture well, I'm stuck with it here in South Dakota; number eleven among states for receipt of federal money, home of the federally-maintained and operated Mount Rushmore, without which the state would be nothing but, of course, they could never afford to do it on their own. And let's not even get into farm and ranch subsidies.

[Cerridwen]

43. Wrong. Nice try, though.

We're one of the states that pays in more than we receive.

I'll see if I can find an old link of mine from here. For every dollar we send in, we get about 80 some-odd cents, I think.

I'll go find that link.

eta link and I stand corrected, as of the report in 2004 it was 73 cents for every dollar. It was also DUer dysfunctional press who provided the info.

There may be another one out there I posted but this was the first I found.

[liberalhistorian]

45. OK, that was in 2004, what

about more recently than six years ago?

If I'm wrong, I'll gladly admit it and eat crow, but it seems to me I read a recent report on states that take in more federal money than they pay and NV was one of them.

[Cerridwen]

46. Now it's down to receiving 65 cents per dollar.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/22685.html

From this point on, you make an assertion, you back it up yourself.

[kiva]

47. Thank you!

:applause:

[Cerridwen]

49. Hey, kiva.

Replies like yours make it a little less painful for me to reply to some of this garbage.

Thank you. :D

[kiva]

60. You're welcome Cerridwen.

I'm tired of hearing people bash Nevadans as greedy scum - I guess it isn't nearly as entertaining to recognize that many of us are liberals who are trying to shift the direction of our state's political leanings. This week I sat in a room with about 100 people, listening to our moronic governor speak for 15 minutes - we all thought he was lying scum. It's a start.

[Cerridwen]

62. On the bright side (yeah, I woke up in a good mood this a.m.) :D

On the bright side gibbons is a good example of and puts a nutty face on the repub party unlike guinn who appeared normal and reasonable as he wielded his ax.

A true story of "karma" (or schadenfreude?). During the election for gov. that guinn ultimately won, I worked with a woman who was a state employee, as was her husband who also was a state employee as well as working on guinn's campaign. The woman and her husband were rah, rah on guinn to the extreme. I warned her that guinn was no friend of state employees (among others) and that she was about to "cut off her nose to spite her face." She ignored me. After guinn got into office, her husband was one of the first to lose his state job. I kept my poker face on. She never looked me in the eye again.

You have my sympathy for those painful 15 minutes. I'd offer aspirin but I'm hoping you've recovered by now. :D

[liberalhistorian]

50. OK, you got me;

gotta fix that plate of crow now.

Alas, however, the same cannot be said for my own state; $1.53 received for every dollar of federal taxes paid.

[Cerridwen]

56. Crow not required.

The only time I'd serve crow is to those repubs and repubs in Democratic clothing who do that stuff on purpose; even then it'd only be road-killed crow. I like the "little" buggers. :)

Let's just say the next time you make it out to Vegas, you owe me a beer; I don't drink the cheap crap, either. :)

:hi:

[NuttyFluffers]

52. it doesn't matter how incoherently you fight for populist ideals, just that you fight for them.

hence the popularity of the Teabaggers. they are insane, yes. they haven't the sense to ask for directions on how to get out of a wet paper bag, yes. but they do one thing -- tap into fomenting popular anger.

and yet we sit here again, pointing and pouting like good little *safe* liberals; rocking no boats because that might make people notice us and maybe get mad.

well, look who's out there like a fool, getting noticed, and getting mad? and yet they seem to be doing AOK. funny, that.

[liquid diamond]

53. Reid is toast. We've known this for months.

[upi402]

54. They sat on their hands and wasted a great opportunity

:cry: Not good.:cry:

[newspeak]

67. we'll see

Isn't it ironic that the repukes can get eight years of bringing down this country, and in a year, basically big business can convince the masses to vote for them again? Truly astounding. I see a MO here--steal as much as you can and deregulate the shite for your greed buds, steal the people blind-then let the democrats gain majority (of course, make sure it's a corporate dem), so they can sweep your crimes under the rug--then let the fools vote for you again and finish the job. Wash, rinse and repeat.

Create the problem or mess and after a little bit of time, offer your solution. How utterly brilliant, in a diabolical way.

I'll vote for Reid to at least slow the hemorrhaging. The repukes wet dream is to privatize the shite out of everything. We'll have the McDonald's of school for the poorer students and Ivy league for the wealthy. We already have privatized prisons, how's that working? It cost actually the same or more, with little or no representation or accountability. And, don't forget what happened in Pennsylvania, the judge who was sending juveniles to the privatized facility for kickbacks. The corruption now, won't compare to when corporations take over every public institution. Say good-bye to representation, say good-bye to accountability, say good-bye to democracy. And, how do you feel about the health care deform act, taking funds from medicare to subsidize a greedy sociopathic industry? Will it eventually lead to privatizing it all together, will they eventually give our SS monies to Wall Street, like * wanted to (I believe his final act of CYA).

Next time a call comes in for one of the repukes, I'm going to ask "why should I vote for your repuke?" If they start with the tax meme (which I am so tired of hearing), I'm going to give them an earful.

[liquid diamond]

72. Great post.

You're exactly right. People of this country have very short memories. The repukes got us into many of the messes we are trying to clean up. However, we aren't moving fast enough--health care, economic recovery, Iraq withdrawal, etc. Even "progressives" here are bitching and moaning. People are angry and want to lash out. Their only alternative is to vote for a repuke. It's a pathetic cycle indeed. If I were Reid and knew I was going down, I would do so fighting for the causes of my own party.