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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:50 AM
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NY MAG >> The Loneliest President - What’s going on in George Bush’s mind? >>>
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Many interesting diagnoses as to the state of Poor George's psyche. Some excerpts >





http://nymag.com/news/politics/Bush/26993/index.html

The Man With No Shadow
By Robert Stone, author of Prime Green: Remembering the Sixties


I think Bush has come to believe he’s on a lonely, noble mission—doing the right thing in spite of the ravings and denunciation by pygmies—and that to some degree he thinks people outside the Oval Office have to be lied to. But he is very mysterious—he doesn’t reveal much in the way of personal qualities. There’s an actor quality to what he does; he’s not very good at it. It’s as though somebody gave him a “nice young man” lesson.







http://nymag.com/news/politics/Bush/26993/index1.html

Dad, the Bottle, Vietnam
By Jonathan Alter, Newsweek columnist


I see Bush’s behavior as the result of three major forces: the dad, the bottle, and the Vietnam War. For most of his life, Bush tried and failed to follow in his absent father’s footsteps. His father was a war hero; Bush a no-show Guardsman dodging Vietnam. His father did well in the oil business; Bush struck dry holes. His father got elected to Congress; Bush was defeated in 1978. A collection of Bush Sr.’s letters contains far more to Jeb than George W. Finally, in 1994, Bush was elected governor of Texas, but George and Bar were so upset that their anointed son, Jeb, lost the election that night for the governorship of Florida that they barely seemed to notice. You don’t have to be Freud to see that Bush has snubbed his father’s closest advisers (who turned out to be right) and hired men who held his father in contempt, like Don Rumsfeld (who turned out to be wrong). It was no big surprise that he rejected the Baker-Hamilton report. As with many former substance abusers, he became fanatically disciplined—maybe the most disciplined man to hold the office. But with discipline came rigidity. Former drunks sometimes fear that if they change their lives too abruptly after straightening out, they’ll pull a thread on their recovery and sink back into chaos. They never admit their helplessness, so when they succeed in staying sober anyway, it helps their confidence. It’s a reflection of their will to stay the course. This is too simple an explanation for Bush’s failures as president, but it helps illuminate his mind-set. Finally, Bush is a baby-boomer, but with a twist. He was rebelling against the reigning liberal orthodoxy of the sixties. He and other Vietnam War hawks believe that we lost simply because we quit. To give in to the Establishment view of his father and the Democrats now would be to repudiate his whole political sense of self. One thing has changed: Now he meets the families of the dead. It has wiped the smirk off his face—but it’s actually reinforced his determination that they must not die in vain.







http://nymag.com/news/politics/Bush/26993/index10.html

His Smile
By Deepak Chopra, president, Alliance for a New Humanity


One of the most unnerving things about George Bush is his smile. As the situation in Iraq has grown more calamitous, the smile hasn’t disappeared. It’s become markedly patronizing, saying, “I’m right on this. The rest of you just don’t understand.” A pitying smile. On the night of the State of the Union, the president kept his smirking to a minimum—a surprise. It’s been pointed out that until he became president, Bush didn’t smirk. It’s grown into a disturbing tic, expressing a mixture of contradictory traits: smugness, disdain, self-consciousness, doubt. It’s not the easiest smirk to read. People who read contempt in it are rightfully offended. They think of Bush’s most unpleasant attribute: his sense of entitlement. Having accomplished little in his life, he nevertheless expected the highest rewards. He wanted victory to come easily, as his birthright. When it did come in 2000—to the astonishment even of his family—the smirk said, “I told you so.” His smile turns into a go-to-hell smirk whenever Bush hears a hostile question. He’s shielding himself from impudence while reining in his own simmering anger. He’s smirking to put you on warning. In a moment he might blow his top. Bush’s smile also tells us, almost guilelessly, that he isn’t suffering inside. This fact maddens his critics the most. Lincoln suffered terribly during the Civil War, as Churchill did in World War II. Bush has to remind himself to put on a sad face when he talks about his war. The black dog, as Churchill called his depression, doesn’t nip at this president’s heels. Have we seen a more inappropriate smile from any politician since Nixon? I doubt it.







http://nymag.com/news/politics/Bush/26993/index12.html
The Vessel
By Gary Hart, Wirth Chair Professor at the University of Colorado at Denver and former U.S. senator


I think Bush didn’t have a view of America’s role in the world until after 9/11, and then it was provided to him by those around him in power. They had two big ideas: One was to depose Saddam and use Iraq as a base to pacify, in an imperial way, the Middle East, and to control its oil. The second big idea, carried over by the vice-president and the secretary of Defense, was that of the unitary presidency. It also fits in with a kind of messianic belief on the part of the president that he did have a great purpose in life even though he had up until that time not discovered that, and his great purpose was to destroy international terrorism and overthrow dictators and spread democracy.







http://nymag.com/news/politics/Bush/26993/index14.html

A Decadent Aristocrat
By Andrew Solomon, author of The Noonday Demon: An Atlas of Depression


Bush, like his mother, has an almost inhuman ability to identify his own advantage without the slightest regard to its cost to others. One reads in Lincoln’s diaries of how his heart bled for every soldier who died in the war he felt obliged to wage; one reads in Bush’s face and in his speeches an inability to conceive of other people as fully human, including the soldiers who die at his behest, a quality that renders him less than fully human himself. This heartlessness, unlike his achievement of the presidency, is the very hallmark of decadent aristocracy. It is worth noting, however, that most aristocracy is not so far decayed; the queen of England, despite her less cuddly manner, is clearly more compassionate than W. But in the great popularity contest of electoral politics, he has been a winner, and in his mind he is one still. With a few nods to the disagreeable fact of the Democratic Congress, he continued, in the State of the Union, to declare the truth rather than to reflect it, narcissistically unable to grasp that he is not the world.





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http://nymag.com/news/politics/Bush/26993/index14.html

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:54 AM
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1. What’s going on in George Bush’s mind?
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:34 AM
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17. ...
:spray: ;rofl: :hi:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:55 AM
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2. W like Babs Bush can't identify with the working class
Babs thought the stranded Katrina victims had it good compared to what they were used to. Elitist clowns.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:23 AM
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7. She's not quite human >


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/bush072699.htm

Tragedy Created Bush Mother-Son Bond
For the Bush family, the young death of Robin Bush created a strong tie between George W. Bush and Barbara Bush. (File)

By George Lardner Jr. and Lois Romano
Washington Post Staff Writers
Monday, July 26, 1999; Page A1

On a fall day in 1953, George and Barbara Bush drove their green Oldsmobile up the gravel driveway at Sam Houston Elementary School in Midland, Tex., looking for their oldest child. George W. Bush and a friend from second grade were lugging a Victrola from their classroom to the principal's office when he spotted his parents' car. He was sure his little sister was in the back seat.

"He went running back to the teacher and said, 'I've got to go. My mother and father and Robin are here,' " Barbara Bush, the former first lady, recalled in a recent interview.

"I run over to the car," said George W., remembering the same moment, "and there's no Robin."

"That's when we told him," his mother said. "In the car."

Two days earlier, Pauline Robinson Bush – "Robin" – had died in New York of leukemia, two months shy of her fourth birthday. Her big brother had known she was sick but never dreamed she was dying. "Why didn't you tell me?" Bush repeatedly asked his parents, and for years the question would resonate in the Bush family.

At age 7, Bush found himself surrounded by bewildering grief. His parents were not even 30 years old, trying to move past a devastating loss while raising George W. and his baby brother Jeb.

The death left indelible scars on the Bushes. Barbara Bush still has trouble talking about her daughter's death. Her husband would cite the experience when he ran for president and was asked if he had ever known hardship. George W.'s eyes welled with tears when discussing his sister in an interview in May.

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 10:57 AM
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26. So devastating to them that they went golfing the day of the funeral?
Is that right? :eyes: I don't believe that the bushes are human.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:58 AM
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3. obviously NOTHING...
...since its an empty shell that just echos Dick's words.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:59 AM
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4. He's the penultimate 'puppet boy'
He has no legitimate/genuine thougts of his own. He's been 'led by the nose' by others. He doesn't recognize that.

There's no genius or inspiration behind ANYTHING he has ever done/attempted to do! I, nor my neighbors, should have to suffer for this boy/man's ignorance.

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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:59 AM
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5. trick question, right? nt
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:08 AM
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6. K&R.
Like driving past an accident...
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:40 AM
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8.  Analyzing W is a waste of time. The ruling class didn't select him for his busy brains or
keen insights or amazing character -- they selected him for his pliability and the fact that his little idiocies (such as the inability to utter a coherent sentence) would divert attention from their more sinister games.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:43 AM
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9. yet it's all at his whim now
He might follow their script, he might not. He's given himself so many powers he's beyond control. Even Dick doesn't own him at this point. He's a loose cannon.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:58 AM
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13. Well, it's not really at HIS whim. He pays rather little attention to what happens
and probably gives rather few direct instructions.

He's probably still impressed he can summon White House staff instantly with the buzzer, and it's hard to imagine that he himself knows very much about actually using power.

The real threat comes not from W but from the damage he has done to institutions and precedents, creating a climate that is likely to be exploited by much smarter people -- I mean, people who resemble (say) Cheney but are twenty-five years younger than Cheney
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:44 AM
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10. Where did all his freinds go?
Early in his reign he always had powerful friends over to play, Putin, Blair, Berlusconi and others. He cultivated enemies just as eagerly as he displayed his powerful allies. It seems like a very long time since he has been seen hauling heads of state around the ranch in his pick-up. He has been instrumental in the downfall of some and the wiser ones now steer clear of the international pariah he has become. His arch foes have grown more powerful because of him. In many ways he is more pathetic than Nixon at rock bottom.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:46 AM
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11. Enough with the analysis. How can Bush be STOPPED? nt
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:50 AM
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12. When enough RATIONAL people realize he is INSANE he will be stopped.
None of this is a waste of time.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:49 AM
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15. Thanks for the OP
I missed this over the weekend. Man, it is powerful.:kick:R
peace and low stress
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:28 AM
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14. Stephanie, thank you for this post.
Edited on Tue Jan-30-07 04:33 AM by JohnnyLib2
It's an amazing collection of descriptions; it might be used in college classes years from now. ("contrast and compare"; list similarities and differences; place one of these in context of a leading personality theory", etc.)

If DUers have not clicked and read the remainer of this article, please do.
I was struck by the mentions of "closed mind," with all the repercussions that has.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:30 AM
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16. "MIND"? "MIND"??! WHAT freakin' MIND??
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:40 AM
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18. Great post!!!
Wow.

Thank you for posting this. It is an amazing collection, and shows that the general public is being exposed to many of the same general ideas that progressive democrats -- perhaps especially on DU -- have known for some time. I'm surprised that J. Alter's article is so good .... he usually has pulled his punches, so to speak, when discussing the president.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 07:05 AM
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19. a psycho bully
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 07:47 AM
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20. Rec'd! What a collection questioning the sanity of *. Bookmarked! nt
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 09:43 AM
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22. I could only choose a few - here are the rest of the authors >
http://nymag.com/news/politics/Bush/26997/index.html

Introduction
By John Heilemann

The Vessel
By Gary Hart, former U.S. senator

He's the Man With No Shadow
By Robert Stone, author of Prime Green: Remembering the Sixties

His Dad, the Bottle, Vietnam
By Jonathan Alter, Newsweek columnist

The Real Agenda
By Dahlia Lithwick, senior editor, Slate

He Is Not a Crook
By Melvin Laird, counselor to President Nixon

Listening to Himself
By Peter D. Kramer, author of Listening to Prozac

Once More, With Feeling
By Mark Green, former NYC public advocate

Simplicity Himself
By Franklin Foer, editor of The New Republic

What Would Jesus Do?
By Scott Dikkers, editor-in-chief of The Onion

He's a Pathological Optimist
By Joshua Wolf Shenk, author of Lincoln’s Melancholy

Mr. Subliminal
By Christopher Buckley, author of Thank You for Smoking

His Smile
By Deepak Chopra, president, Alliance for a New Humanity

Deep Down He Knows
By Ted Sorensen, speechwriter for President Kennedy

He Misunderstands History
By Alan Brinkley, Allan Nevins Professor of History, Columbia University

He's a Decadent Aristocrat
By Andrew Solomon, author of The Noonday Demon: An Atlas of Depression

The Clinical Diagnosis
By Susan Andersen, professor of psychology, NYU


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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:59 AM
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21. K & R. Thanks for posting. n/t
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 10:05 AM
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23. Deepak Chopra is one of the least judgemental people
on the planet, but whoa, he sums up Bush and his smile to a tee.

I can't wait to read the others, but just wanted to say thanks for posting this.
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 10:25 AM
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24. K & R nt
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 10:47 AM
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25. Excellent compilation, Stephanie. n/t
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:34 PM
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27. Thanks
I'm glad it's out in the open. He's twisted, something's definitely wrong with him. Now let's get him out.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 05:26 PM
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28. Great post Stephanie .... I'm saving it to read later.......
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 07:05 PM
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29. the guy is like human tofu ... he takes on the traits of anyone he's exposed to
(Soak tofu in ketchup for awhile, and presto, it tastes like ketchup!) He doesn't have any vision of who he is, and is so suggestible, that it's quite easy for him to copy others (even subconsciously). He copies McCain, or Dick, or Rummy -- he even copies Al Gore when he pretends to be the big nature expert at his Texas spread.

Georgie doesn't like fancy academic talk, like "metaphorical" -- but I get the impression that the poor fellow is trying to pretend that his fake ranch represents his "true self". He's not just clearing brush ... every chance he gets, he scurries off to gloat about the secret nooks that are hidden away in the canyons. Arid, dried-up, drab place ... oooh, but it's got a hidden waterfall!
http://www.time.com/time/poy2000/mag/ranch.html
("This is the real me," thinks Georgie, partly snivelling, and partly triumphant -- "All those smartypants reporters haven't got a clue about what a nice, beautiful person I really am.")

He doesn't realize that all his fiddling around with the property (expensive new house, lavish manmade fishing pond in a part of the state that's short of water, and fussy attempts to landscape the grounds so they look more like an Eastern park than a Western homestead) are a lot more revealing than he'd bargained on. The first summer, the water in the pond got so hot in the sun that the fish died ... another metaphor, but I doubt he recognizes it.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 07:16 PM
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30. "They hate me. But I'll get them. I'll teach them all a lesson they'll
Edited on Tue Jan-30-07 07:17 PM by Zorra
never forget. For I, George W. Bush, am in control of the red button. I am the Decider - I'll DESTROY THEM ALL!!!

Aaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha!"
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 07:47 PM
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31. He's such the sociopath.
A great article, by the way. And you have to love this picture, for crying out loud. The fetal position is so apt, don't you think? :hi:



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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 09:42 AM
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33. Hey honey!
Brunch? :hi:
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 11:04 AM
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34. Hey baby!!!
Would love to do brunch. I have friends in from Chicago starting Friday. Maybe we can all meet on Sunday? We are seeing a matinee performance on Saturday. I will e-mail you. :hi:
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