This week at the Rapture Ready board: Great excitement over Gog/Magog & 'rapture' anytime!

[Bluebear]

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Do you think that the many countries pushing towards peace for the Middle East will lead us into this event?

How long after peace is offered do you think it will be before Israel feels secure enough to tear down their walls?

Do you think that America will stick around and create that security blanket for Israel to tear down the walls, or will it be other nations, or groups such as the EU?

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I personally would say that the quote about the unwalled villages is the voice of the enemy. For example, Iran thinks Israel will be an easy defeat, easy enough to provoke the United States and Israel at the same time. So, certainly in a way this could be a somewhat quote of the enemy, thinking Israel is like "having no walls".

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According to Joel Rosenberg, Israel today satisfies all of the conditions required for the Gog/Magog war. And most of the villages in Israel have no walls.

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It may be true that most of Israel's villages are unwalled, but I still don't see how it's in the prime condition for the Gog/Magog war to start if Israel's not lying in peace. Israel is definately not and hasn't been in peace because of the Muslim world.

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That's what I think too. If Gog/Magog happens in the middle of the Trib, it doesn't allow enough time for the weapons to burn.

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This description is accurate; (1) Isreael is an unprotected land. (2) filled with unwalled villages.


http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=290974

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After watching some of the remarks on the denying the Holy Spirit challenge website, it is more proof that what we believe as Christians is in fact truth.

The more people deny the more our faith should increase. We are indeed in the last days.
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I heard John Hagee this morning say we are not in the last day's but we are in the last minuite's.
We are that close.

The generation that saw Israel regathered is 60 years old and up.
The earthquakes and storm's and sighn's of all kinds.
the emergance of the russian empire which is far more dangerous than the old soviet era.
And the Islamics saying their Mahdi is comming very soon.(Read that Antichrist)
All the war's and the great increase in man's knowledge.
the generation of scoffer's(Blaspheme challenge)

With all this and much more i would take it a step further and say we are living in the LAST SECOND's.
I really really really want to be ready.
I'm not going to be like the good man of the house.
I'm going to watch and pray.
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The time is indeed short. Stay strong in the Faith Brothers and Sisters.
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I have been writing to a friend that’s in the Pin, :eyes: he’s been a preacher their for some time, I told him he might be in the safer place for the world is getting crazier by the minute and our country is looking like Sodom and Gomorrah. I have a good life but all I yearn for is JESUS to take me home.

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We defintly are in the closing minutes of this side of eternity. So many poeple just are not aware of this and that is so sad to see that.
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Last minutes? I hope so! (But I'd like to get married first, God!)

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Angela and Punkin111, you WILL get married - to a King - if you know Jesus as your Lord and Savior. We are all going to a marriage feast, like you wouldn't believe. Get yourselves ready. You will be a bride, and your marriage will make anything here on earth pale in comparison. Me, too! Blessings!
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AND we will all live happily ever after!

http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=291448

[htuttle]

1. Should we send them a shipment of track suits and razor blades to help them along?

There's bound to be a comet coming along at some point soon.

[and-justice-for-all]

4. HAHAHAHA!!!! thats funny!!! nt

[and-justice-for-all]

2. As I read those post ...

..A couple of different things come to mind.

1) is those folks are not happy with their lives and in fact are so unhappy that they are ready to end it. But instead of getting out and enjoying the only opportunity they have to enjoy life, they will waste their 30,000 days or so of life on mindless devotion to something that is just wishful thinking. It is their life and they can do with it as they wish, but I can not understand the reasoning for longing for death. Believing that life only starts when you die is just insane.

2) I think there are alot of potential suicides in those circles and its a call for help really. There waiting to be wisked away by a rapture that will not be coming and they will spend their entire lives diluted with the misconception that what Hagee says is anything close to true. Hagee is obsessed with death and ultimate distruction, he alone spends more time on the Hill then most GOP people, polluting our Democractic system to implement his self-imposed apocalyps. If it was something that was to come to pass on its own, Hagee and the like would not have to inject themselves into our Government. They would just sit back, talk about it and let it happen. But just like all the every thing else in the bible, its not true!

[atommom]

22. True. They're missing out on their real lives while they pine for the Rapture.

They're ignoring the wonders of the real world, and squandering their opportunities for happiness here on Earth, never considering this might be all they get. It doesn't get much sadder than that.

[TlalocW]

3. I think the next pair of ferrets I adopt will be named Gog and Magog

That should go over well in Tulsa.

TlalocW

[poverlay]

6. That makes me want to buy a pair of ferrets! n/t

[TlalocW]

8. Adopt some instead

A lot of parents buy ferrets for their kids without realizing that ferrets require more care than would a dog or cat, and they're often put up for adoption after half a year or given to a ferret shelter or other kind of shelter.

My latest pair come from a family who was moving and couldn't keep them anymore. They were quite the biters because the kids were wild with them, but they've calmed down quite a bit in the year I've had them.

TlalocW

[Kurovski]

12. And that makes me want to pet one.

It's as far as I'll go.

[shadowknows69]

16. Well ferrets ARE demonic creatures after all

long and slithery like the seprent of old. UNLCEAN!!!

[LibertyLover]

19. If you watched the program A Year in the Life of Windsor Castle

you would also know that ferrets are quite bendy.:rofl:

[Art_from_Ark]

7. Take them on a tour of ORU

That should go over even better

[TlalocW]

9. What's funny is that...

When my out-of-town friends have visited me from out-of-town, I take them on a tour of ORU - specifically, the prayer tower which has a circular series of six rooms that you walk through to see different eras of Oral's life. Once I took a deeply religious friend (who thinks Oral and his ilk are morons) and an atheist friend through at the same time. Two deeply religious ladies joined us on our walk-through so unfortunately, we had to be pretty quiet with the joke telling. And then for whatever reason, after the tour they gravitated towards my religious friend who had several ear piercings, a couple days' worth of stubble, etc. and certainly didn't come off as very religious.

Especially when he had me pick up and carry a hundred pound rock from the banks of the stream that runs through part of the campus (for a freakin' half mile). He wanted a present to give to his sister. :)

TlalocW

[Art_from_Ark]

10. I love to hear stories like that

Speaking of the Prayer Tower, I still remember Oral holing himself up in there and whining that the Lord was gonna "take him home" if someone didn't cough up a few million for whatever project it was he was doing. Apparently, Prayer Cloth sales just weren't cutting it.

[TlalocW]

18. I was in middle school I think when that happened

And had just started reading the newspaper on a daily basis. I asked my mom (we lived in Kansas) if we could order and have delivered a couple dozen pizzas when he started fasting. Unfortunately, he had an out - some guy in Florida paid off whatever remained of the 8 million that he wasn't able to raise when the deadline loomed large. I'm sure he was the safety valve of the whole thing so Oral didn't have to get called home.

He's in Palm Springs now, and ORU is run by his son, Richard, but every now and then he comes back to Tulsa, goes on whatever religious show ORU broadcasts, and regales us with what's been going on - it seems like he's constantly having to prove himself to God because he's constantly in tremendous pain, and Satan keeps popping up in his bedroom telling Oral he'll take away the pain if he rebukes God. Lo and behold, Oral rebukes Satan, and Jesus pops up, chases away the devil and then tells Oral, "Good job," and takes away SOME of his pain... So why don't you call in now with a pledge of support for Oral, and we'll beat the devil.... etc.

TlalocW

[Art_from_Ark]

25. Oral's benefactor reportedly made the following statement about his donation:

"I gave him the money because I don't want that man's death on my conscience"

:rofl:

[karlrschneider]

40. Bring 'em over to Snug Harbor, they can go for a swim in the lake!

:D

[The Traveler]

5. I think

the big pharmaceutical companies invented really powerful drugs just for people like this ...

[Kurovski]

11. Seventy virgins/marrying a king. Six of one, half-dozen of the other.

I'm beginning to feel sorry for the frustration these very patient folks will eventually experience. I just hope it doesn't take the form of deeper madness.

But we'll all ultimately get our own personal little "rapture", as it were.

[Erika]

13. Geez the fundi Muslims and Christians

think that Armageddon is here. Reality is they must live with the planet, culture, and environment non-ending. Might put some accountability on them.

[ninkasi]

14. This brings to mind a true story

I will be 64 on my next birthday. One of my grandmothers, who would be very well over 120 if she were alive, used to tell the story of a religious family who lived on property adjoining her parent's property. One day, a little girl from this family ran over, out of breath, to ask to borrow some milk, because my great-grandparents had a cow.

My grandmother was in her teens, and asked the out of breath little girl why she was in such a hurry. The little girl explained that her own mother kept telling her that Jesus was coming soon, and that her family would all be taken up into heaven, so she needed to hurry home with the milk before this happened. This happened over 100 years ago, and the same people are still waiting.

[Kurovski]

15. That story reminds me of a line from a famous Polka...

"In heaven there is no beer, that's why we drink it here."

[RegimeChange2008]

33. In heaven there is no beer, but things could be much worse.....

In Hell, they only serve Budweiser, Coors, and Old Milwaukee. And being Hell, the beer is always warm :puke:

[Kurovski]

34. And...

it's non-alcholic! 'Don't want to dull the agony of the fires of hell.

Speaking of hell, I just now saw Illeana Ros-Lehtinen on C-span...

[tinfoilinfor2005]

24. My grandma told a similar story.

When a large comet was passing close to the earth, everyone in her small town dressed in white and went to the top of the hill next to the town to await the end of the world. She was a small girl. She said she fell asleep on the hill next to her mom and dad, and the next morning found herself in her own bed.

She used to tell this story every time a report came out about end of the world predictions. She died at age ninety three in her own bed.

[TlalocW]

41. In the 1840s

A minister went through the Bible and assigned a code to everything - mountains meant a certain number, clouds another, etc. He predicted the end of the world to his congregation on a specific date in March - say it was March 29, 1844, for simplicity's sake. So they people stopped tilling their fields, stopped paying their debts, etc, and when the day came, the competitive members of the congregation climbed hills and trees to get a jumpstart on being swept up into Heaven; ladies held up opened parasols to help their ascension; some people tied themselves to trunks full of their most prized possessions to take to Heaven, and the upper class members stood apart from the lower class members of the congregation so they wouldn't ascend with the riff-raff.

Of course, nothing happened, so the minister went back and looked his calculations and discovered some math mistakes, and told his congregation that it was going to be September 29. The spectacle repeated itself, and nothing happened.

Of course, in religion, you can have a poor track record like that and still be successful. That church eventually evolved into the Seventh Day Adventists (David Koresh's church).

TlalocW

[Pab Sungenis]

17. The whole rapture crowd forget one major inconsistency.

In Genesis, God promised Noah that he would never again destroy the world, and put the rainbow in the sky as a sign of that promise.

If the Rapture and Armageddon is true, then the promise God made to Noah is false.

[Kurovski]

29. I'm not 100% on this, but I think the promise is that

the world would not be destroyed again by flood.

Of course the "world" was a much "smaller" place back then. It wasn't even round in those days!

The internet alone has broadened the horizons.

[RegimeChange2008]

35. The Gog-Magog story isn't actually the Apocalypse

It's based on the 38th and 39th chapters of Ezekiel. Basically, a coalition of countries from the Middle East and Northern Africa will march on Israel. Specifically mentioned are Libya, Persia (Iran), and Ethiopia. The biblical "Ethiopia" is a larger area than the current country, also including Sudan, and Somalia. Leading this coalition is a great nation to the distant north of Israel, which is referred to only as "Gog" in the biblical account, but is usually interpreted as Russia. "Magog" isn't a nation, but is the name given to the leader of the nation "Gog". The fact that Russia has recently sold conventional weapons to Iran and is talking with Syria could certainly be interpreted as an indicator of Russia siding with Muslim nations against Israel. When this large army marches into Israel the expected result is that Israel would not be able to stand against this massive army, except that God himself reaches down out of the sky and kicks Gog's ass. The whole thing, it turns out, was a massive publicity stunt by God Almighty to get Israel's attention, and get them to turn away from the arrogance of the Likud party agenda and rely only on Him.

As for how this affects the Rapture - Ready crowd, the pre-tribulation Rapture theory believers teach (as outlined in the "Left Behind" book series) that the Gog - Magog battle is the "opening kickoff" of the Super Bowl to end all Super Bowls, and that Quarterback JC will be calling the next play, which will be the Rapture itself. Followed by seven years of Hell on Earth for everyone else as the Antichrist takes the field and scores a series of 6(66) point touchdowns. :evilgrin:

[TlalocW]

39. Yes, but that was before

Gays ruined the rainbow. :sarcasm:

TlalocW

[gatorboy]

20. The sad thing is these people really don't care about the people of Israel.

It's the idea of Israel they're interested in. The idea that the shit really has to hit the fan on that side of the planet (possibly killing millions) before these folks can float to heaven. Can you be any more selfish?

[Kurovski]

30. Such are the dynamics of a Narcissistic Personality Disorder,

Or other some-such.

[LibertyLover]

21. I was struck by the comments about the marriage to the King

Talk about an alternative life style! I mean we apparently are talking a serious polygamous marriage here. And what about Christian men? Whom to they get to go to the marriage feast with? Or do they marry the Saviour too? How come it would be ok in Heaven to have 2 men marry each other but it's not ok on earth? I am shocked, shocked I tell you. :shrug:

[tenshi816]

23. I'm taken aback by that too.

There's one poster in particular at Rapture Ready who constantly goes on and on about being "in love" with Jesus, and she's not the first Christian woman I've encountered with that obsession. I have the impression that women like that truly believe that one day Jesus is going to whisk them away to a celestial marriage bed where they'll consummate their love. I knew someone like that years ago in Georgia who was "saving herself" for Jesus - she was unmarried because in her view no earthly man would ever measure up to the scenario she had built up in her fantasy Jesusworld. Women like that wouldn't like Jesus as he really would have looked though; I always say that the guy they're thinking about is the one I call "Fabio Jesus", with blue eyes, flowing blond hair, a six-pack and great pecs, riding a big white horse.

I don't actually post at Rapture Ready or anything, but I do lurk there because the RR folks fascinate me. I feel sorry for them that they're unable to truly enjoy this life because they're only concerned with pie in the sky.

Edit: when I say "Christian", I mean "fundie". Not all Christians are fundies. I know that.

[gauguin57]

26. Ick. Reminds me of an old Arrested Development song ...

They're all waiting for it all to end, instead of concentrating on the problems we have and how to SOLVE them. Their solution is to wait for the Rapture/Tribulation/Armageddon ... to "cope" until the end comes. Ick.

From the song "FISHIN' FOR RELIGION," by Arrested Development

... Sitting in church hearing legitimate woes
Pastor tells the lady it'll be alright
Just pray so you can see the pearly gates so white
The lady prays and prays and prays and prays
and prays and prays and prays and prays...it's everlasting
"There's nothing wrong with praying?" It's what she's asking
She's asking the Lord to let her cope
so one day she can see the golden ropes
What you pray for God will give
to be able to cope in this world we live
The word "cope" and the word "change"
is directly opposite, not the same
She should have been praying to change her woes
but pastor said "Pray to cope with those"
The government is happy with most baptist churches
coz they don't do a damn thing to try to nurture
brothers and sisters on a revolution
Baptist teaches dying is the only solution
Passiveness causes others to pass us by
I throw my line till I've made my decision
until then, I'm still fishin' 4 religion

Fishin' 4 religion

[GoneOffShore]

28. Reminds me of the Woody Guthrie song

"There'll be pie in the sky, by and by."

[Donald Ian Rankin]

27. I'm a member of Gog Magog. What are we meant to have been up to?

http://www.societies.cam.ac.uk/molly/

[AngryAmish]

31. Are they any more insane than the cat ladies at the Barbaro message board?

share both your pain and the sense of peace that comes from knowing you did all you could and that Barbaro's suffering has ended. I love the thought that Barbaro and Secretariat are galloping through their lovely heaven together. Beth Lambert
Elizabeth Lambert, 70; Restgon, PA, USA

or

Please wake me from my bad dream. Barbaro, I am so sorry. You tried and fought so hard. You will always be my ultimate hero. Thank you NBC for all you did for Barbaro-it was worth everything to try for him.
Karen Carr; Woodstock, CT, USA

and the infamous Dee Mirch

My heart goes out to all of you. For your care and love for Barbaro. You are Angels On Earth. Barbaro is an Angel In Heaven. A very beautiful rainbow.My Love, Dee Mirich
Dee Mirich, 40; Merrillville, IN, U.S.A.

[Kurovski]

36. Animals never complain about or point out our flaws.

Relationships with deities and animals are sometimes quite satisfying in the lack of everyday conflict they can afford, especially when the rest of the human world pisses us off, or manages to hurt too much.

The idea of love can reach a state of blissful delirium.

Edit: I'm not a member of the message board. I'm merely using a literary device here.

[Bluebear]

37. Yes. nt

[dysfunctional press]

32. religious belief is the bane of our existence.

stupid people piss me off!

and the ones that believe in any "god" are the worst.

[WilliamPitt]

38. "And most of the villages in Israel have no walls."

:rofl:

[jmowreader]

42. But Israel IS armed to the teeth!