PBS showing "FEMA Camps" -- holy shit!

[madamesilverspurs]

This thing uses Fox, Beck, Bachmann; old news reel footage, all conflating Obama with Hitler.

This is running on PBS station KBDI in Denver. Teabaggers are going to run with this, bigtime.

The station is running this as part of their pledge drive.

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[seeinfweggos]

1. limk? nt

[NYC_SKP]

5. Limk here: They're showing "From Freedom to Fascism" by Aaron Russo.

KBDI link:

http://www.kbdi.org/tv_schedule/program_details.cfm?id=120100306180000

Google Video link:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173#

:patriot:

[madamesilverspurs]

7. "FEMA Camps" follows the Russo films.

KBDI is proudly 'premiering' this film.

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[Echo In Light]

22. Do CT naysayers think all of the IRS agents interviewed in that are lying?

[SDuderstadt]

32. No, I think they don't know what the fuck...

they're yammering about.

[Nikki Stone1]

49. This is about the Federal income tax being illegal: Joseph Stack was part of this

and that was one of the reasons he was having so many problems with the IRS. He flew his plane into the IRS building.

[SDuderstadt]

50. The Federal Income tax is NOT illegal...

you realize that is RW anti-government propaganda, right?

[Nikki Stone1]

63. What I was saying is that Stack believed that the Federal Income Tax was illegal

And so does the guy in that film in the OP.

[NYC_SKP]

2. OK. I'm jealous. Why aren't they showing "FEMA Camps" on MY PBS?

Series.

This is a PBS production?

[cliffordu]

3. I want a FEMA camp named after me.

[NYC_SKP]

6. You can have a cell named after you, buddy. And, dibs on the TOP bunk!

As we'll likely be sharing that cell, Murphy's law and all that...

[cliffordu]

8. Hokay, Celly.....

Just don't wake me suddenly. I have a terrible methane problem when startled......

[NYC_SKP]

38. Please sleep on your side with your ass pointed toward the adjacent cell.

That's grantcart's hole.

He won't mind.

:P

[cliffordu]

41. I understand he keeps violating his parole so he can go back to the fragrant

halls of the big house....


:rofl:

[mucifer]

4. They'd never show that crap on pbs in Chicago

[SoCalNative]

9. Don't worry

he teabaggers don't watch PBS...damned socialist liberal elite media!

[Historic NY]

10. whoa boy this is going to stir the bee's 16th amendment not ratified

that was the first piece of BS 42 out of 48 states ratified it by 1913.

[SDuderstadt]

11. For tax advice...

please write to:

Aaron Russo 1435746
Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary
Leavenworth, KS 66048

What an idiot. Anyone who is stupid enough to listen to him deserves to go to jail.

[madamesilverspurs]

12. Actually,

Russo died a couple years back.

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[SDuderstadt]

13. I know, but it would have ruined the joke n/t

[Name removed]

29. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[SDuderstadt]

30. The keyword there would have been...

"joke", dude.

This reminds me of a long-running argument I had with a RWer who claimed that my opinion on something was a "lie".

Tell me, dude...what do you think of the disinformation in Russo's "film"?

[Octafish]

33. Some joke. Were you going to let it stand until called out?

Your posts remind me of something, all right.

[cliffordu]

35. Lulz....

[SDuderstadt]

36. Dude...think this through...

some wacko puts out a nonsense film essentially telling peopole they don't have to pay their taxes based upon other wackos saying equally nonsensical things.

Tongue-in-cheek, I tell people:

For tax advice write to:

AaronRussoxxxxxx
Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary
etc

so, dude...I plead guilty to one count of telling a joke that went over your head...do I have to tell you why jokes and opinions cannot be disinformation? If I do, let me know and I'll try to explain in such a way that it does not go over your head again.

Now, what about the blatant disinformation in Russo's film? Did you get duped by that too? For example, what about his claim that the Federal Reserve is "privately owned"? Did you fall for that too?

[Octafish]

45. It's not about me, dude. It's about you and what you post about.

Speaking of which, why does it seem like all you ever do is slam anyone who points out the sinister nature of the nation's power structure? You should try going after the Bush crime family and their supporters sometime.

[SDuderstadt]

47. Do I slam them or...

do I slam the goofy, unsubstantiated claims they make? If you'd pay attention, I have repeatedly called for the indictment, prosecution and conviction of W, whom I despise. But, that doesn''t mean that I believe that HW had anything to do with the assassination of JFK, nor do I believe that "9/11 was an inside job".

Do you see the difference? You seem to think I should give you a pass when you make stupid claims because, after all, you're on the "right side". Isn't that kinda like what's wrong with the GOP? Should we only call people on it when they're on the other side?

Tell me something, dude. Why are you so allergic to facts, reason and Logic? Do you think something must be true simply because you read it somewhere? Do you ever try to falsify the bullshit you read? Does it ever occur to you that the reason you can't seem to crack the JFK assassination after nearly 50 years is because there's nothing to crack?

Do you see that Aaron Russo was a wacko? Do you understand his claim that the Federal Reserve is "privately owned" is total bullshit? Do you keep rationalizing that people who know more than you and see through the bullshit you spread can't possibly be right, therefore they must be "in on it" or they are duped by the PTB?

I've always believed the Democratic Party is a "big tent", but that doesn't mean we have to stand idly by while people like you spread utter CT bullshit. You want to debate on the facts? I'm game. If you want to poison the debate by constantly demonizing the motivation of people who disagree with you on the facts, then expect to encounter opposition, dude. If you want a forum where no one deigns to question your fantasies, then start your own Logic-free website.

[Octafish]

48. I don't know if you ''know'' more than me and, if so, that doesn't bother me.

What you "know" ain't all that great.

BTW: Even though you keep repeating it, sduderstadt, you still haven't pointed to even one example where I advanced a "bullshit conspiracy theory."

[SDuderstadt]

52. So, facts are okay only if they're "great"?

I know a lot more than you do, dude, which is why I don't buy your bullshit. Again, I ask: why haven't you cracked the JFK assassination after nearly fifty years, dude?

Last question: Do you acknowledge Aaron Russo was spreading disinformation in that film? Do you acknowlefge that the Federal Reserve is not "privately owned"?

[Octafish]

58. You still haven't answered my question.

Where did I post something that wasn't true?

I even posted links to my Know your BFEE threads, and you still didn't answer.

That shows what you know.

[SDuderstadt]

60. Oh, I see...

I ask questions of you that you don't answer, but you ask me questions and demand I answer them. Nice racket, dude.

Answer mine and I'll be glad to answer yours.

[liberalhistorian]

64. I'm afraid that's par for

the course for this particular poster. I wouldn't bother to engage him any further, unless you want your words to be further twisted and distorted. Some people around here are humor and fact-impaired and there's no point in bothering with them.

[Octafish]

51. Call it a joke if you want. It's still bullshit.

Then, again, that's about all I've gotten out of your posts.

[SDuderstadt]

56. Do you understand what a joke is, dude?

What is your point? Can one only tell a joke if it's factual? Do you realize just how absurd you are being?

[liberalhistorian]

65. You're supporting the likes of Aaron

Russell and his bullshit and you call SD's posts bullshit? Wow, dude, that's some seriously absurd delusions you have going there.

[zbdent]

27. wouldn't surprise me if he did it for tax purposes ...

Hotblack Desiato, anyone?

[madamesilverspurs]

14. Reruns and program info

http://www.kbdi.org/tv_schedule/program_details.cfm?series_id=33102737

It's hard to watch all the way through, the FEMA camps are just an excuse to vilify Obama. "Camp FEMA" is nothing more than a further attempt to ramp up fear of our first non-white President. It's damned blatant racism, stunning to see it on PBS.

If someone would like to send the info to KO or Maddow, please do so; I tried, but my stupid dialup won't let me at the moment.

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[Puregonzo1188]

40. Isn't this an old film? I remember seeing it when Bush was still in office. Unless they updated it

I can't see how it can be viewed as "vilifying" Obama. I think it even used to have a bit of a following on DU back in the day. So did Alex Jones and FEMA Camp conspiracies in general. Funny how times change.

[madamesilverspurs]

42. This film, "CAMP Fema", is current enough that

there are references to the birth certificate mess. And pictures of Obama and snippets from some of his speeches are laid over the scenes of Nazi marches. The school children singing about Obama are shown with scenes of Hitler Youth, while a series of very white people warn us about imminent fascism. This is a new film, the station showing it boasted that this was the 'premier' showing.

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[Emit]

61. And this played on PBS?

Local programming?

I'd send a letter.

I cannot believe that. When was there anything like that ever airing when Bushco was in office?

[Emit]

62. "Camp FEMA exposes the case for rounding up patriotic constitutional Americans..."

**cough, cough** Who the hell wrote that for PBS?

[Dr.Phool]

15. I saw the trailer for "Freedom to Fascism"

When Fahrenheit 911 first came out. So, that would make it at least 6 years old.

It looked interesting at first, until they started showing clips of all the loony wing-nuts in it.

[SDuderstadt]

18. What a pack of lies this film is....

for example, the claim that the Federal Reserve is privately owned is patently untrue.

[galileoreloaded]

24. hahahahaha......your funny n/t

[SDuderstadt]

37. Really?

Do you believe this is an honest film?

[winyanstaz]

16. Well time to get the bullhorns out...

And remind everyone who built the camps...Bush and co...

I have tried to tell the democrat party....we MUST NAME this mess...name those fema camps...BUSH'S FEMA CAMPS...in every post you make.

Name this depression now or they will hang that on Obama too...

This is the Bush Crime Family Depression....or the Great Neocon Folly....The Fault of the Elite Depression.... The Neocon Wreck of the World........The Great Republican Fumble......whatever ...just NAME IT.

Repeat that name every single chance...for heaven's sake...dont let the Republican thugs name the mess they made and hang it on Obama and the Dems.

If you can come up with a better name...lets hear it.

[SDuderstadt]

17. The "democrat party"?

Our proper name is the Democratic Party. The term "democrat party" is a GOP slur in which they try to deny us the positive goodwill invoked by the word "democratic".

PLease stop referring to us as the "democrat party".

[Ian David]

23. I'm surprised "Ignored" did that. n/t

[Ikonoklast]

34. That's one of them there 'progressives' that hate all things Democratic.

There are more than a few of them here, and most of them would love to see Democrats fail.

[Ozymanithrax]

20. To add a bit to what what SDuderstadt said...

There simply is no Democrat party. Each of the states had a Democratic party, such as the Democratic Party of California. There is no "Democrat Party" registered anywhere in the U.S.

[eShirl]

25. "I have tried to tell the democrat party"

the what?

[SidDithers]

28. "democrat party"...

hmm, now where have we heard that before?

Sid

[SidDithers]

66. "democrat party" must have given it away...

Thanks mods!

Sid

[winyanstaz]

19. dear ignored...sorry ..I can't read your post nor do I care what you post :)

So please feel free to hold your breath waiting for a reply :)

[SDuderstadt]

31. Note that this poster replied to the...

OP.

[eShirl]

21. here all they show is various lecturing self-help gurus

I guess we're "lucky"

[HopeHoops]

26. Do you mean the REX-84 concentration camps?

Those are a Reagan creation. Clinton defunded REX-84 immediately upon entering office and Bush's very first action was to restore the funding.

[old mark]

39. You mean like this? Link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84


Designed by Oliver North, that great Democrat....

based on a previous plan to encamp large numbers of
"American Negros".....

mark

[HopeHoops]

46. Yeah, I've seen that. It doesn't even touch on the history.

The original purpose was to deal with a massive "illegal alien" problem. A REX-84 concentration camp has to have a barbed-wire fence, lookout towers, and a rail link. Sound familiar?

Clinton totally eliminated funding right away and many fell into disrepair and only the "dual purpose" sites (like supply depots) were left with staff. Bush, as his first act, restored funding and brought them back to ready status. I have had no luck in finding out how Obama has handled that issue. Any news would be appreciated.

[old mark]

59. I had no idea they were back in business. Another reason to love the GOP....nt

[RB TexLa]

43. Too funny. People here were saying the FEMA camps were going to be used under Bush to round

up and gays and liberals.

Different shit same $19.95 DVD.

[951-Riverside]

54. +1

[SidDithers]

55. +1...nt

Sid

[fascisthunter]

44. yikes... mistakenly recced this one

[951-Riverside]

53. These "FEMA Camps" are awesome

...since our guy is in office :eyes:

[S n o w b a l l]

57. Don't you remember this crap when Bush was in office?

http://www.communicationagents.com/sepp/2005/01/12/alberto_gonzales_and_bush_concentration_camps_is_america_going_fascist.htm