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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:35 AM
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This country is being forced toward fascism
We have the corporations controlling a large majority of congress and the media distorting and controlling the narrative with propaganda. Meet the Press this morning was a prime example. Every time Sebelius would try and explain portions of the health care bill, Gregory would talk over her and spew mistruths and intentional distortions to keep the hysteria and confusion going. Sebilius was noticeably angry. Oh but had she went off on him, there would have been calls for her to resign her position! God knows we can't have understanding of the populus or a functioning government and relative calm.... oh no, that just won't do so the media won' allow it and will not allow the people to have the facts and be properly educated. We are screwed in this country. The media and corporations are at fault and will be this nation's demise. Unfortunately, most people, due to lack of time, lack of intellectual curiousity, etc, get their current events from television. The media and corporations know that and take full advantage!

No one can get through the filter and agenda driven propaganda. The only way to do it is for Obama to get on television constantly, and they won't allow that either. They will beging to immediately deride him again for being on tv too much.

I really have great concern as to the future of this country!
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:37 AM
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1. We need to call it what it is ...... "Corporate Fascism".
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:41 AM
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5. Why government can't come in and take over the industries that are corrupt.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:57 AM
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13. Who would be the judge of that? Shades of that nut-case Chavez!
Looked at what that loon has done concerning the banks in Venezuela lately? We need reform BUT do not need rampant nutcases chopping heads left and right.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:37 AM
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2. K&R.
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:39 AM
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3. K & R
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:40 AM
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4. I'm right with you. Far too many in this country
are far too busy to notice what is happening. Many others still swallow what ever MSM tells them so they're totally mis-lead. It's getting to look pretty hopeless.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:42 AM
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6. We are just a guilty as the corporations - we support them every time
we buy something from them. And now that they produce even the vital items overseas we have little choice other than making our own.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:42 AM
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7. Wait until we have a Democratic President & Congress, they will fix it.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:46 AM
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9. The dems can't get through the media filter! The only way is for Obama to go on tv
solo and call a conference. The Media will then deride him for doing, disect what he says and twist it to keep the generally misinformed public confused and angry. Poll ratings initially go way up then within two to three days, his poll ratings are down again thanks to media spin!
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:43 AM
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8. Wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross..
The corporations are paying for it, of course.
I'm not so sure how much they have to "force" us either.
I'm really worried too, Windy.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:47 AM
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10. No, we're heading that way with little prodding whatsoever
Too many people buying into the two party system, Dems good, 'Pugs bad, without realizing, or not wanting to realize that they're simply different sides of the same corporate coin. Actions that Obama is now undertaking are cheered on the very same Dems that they jeered Bush for doing just a few short years ago.

When it comes to undertaking the radical solutions that are needed to get this country back on the right track, Dems and 'Pugs both deride such actions as crazy, impossible, or worse yet, allowing the "other party" to win.

Meanwhile more and more people are simply lulled to sleep, hey, our guy's in, it's all good. Worse yet, openly heinous actions undertaken by our so called leaders are praised as wonderful change, needed change.

We have been divided and conquered, and far too many people play political games only for the stakes of some sort of "win" for their particular side, when in reality politics is supposed to be about doing the right thing, the just thing regardless of political affiliation.

I have more than a great concern about this country, I've pretty much given up on it and am simply making preparations for the dismal future we face. We are headed towards fascism, and probably some sort of civil war, genocide, revolution of some combination of the above. Sure, I still vote, but my vote is now based on what I think is the best for the country, not what is best for the party. My support for this party has sunk to an entirely new low and I'm simply not going to play the "lesser of two evils" game anymore.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 12:21 PM
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19. Me too.
'My support for this party has sunk to an entirely new low and I'm simply not going to play the "lesser of two evils" game anymore.'

The difference between the dems & repubs, imo, is that the repubs will take us over the cliff at 100mph, while the dems will walk up to edge & step off. The descent is still the same.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:48 AM
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11. Of course there is a way to get through it - and its easy too
Stop going on programs where they have been shouted down or talked over. Just don't go. Because if people like Sebelius don't show up, then people like Gregory would have to go back out on the streets chasing stories like real reporters have to do rather than sit on a throne pontificating. Those shows live and die by having important or at least influential people on - take that away from them and they die a quick and quite natural death.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 12:10 PM
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16. Don't think so
They would just fill the positions up with more righties and then announce "We invited Secretary X, who refused to come on" Now to Mr Lying Rightie... What do you think Secretary X has to hide?

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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 09:45 PM
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23. And people need to stop watching them as well
and stop consuming products from those who advertise on their shows, networks, newspapers radio programs etc.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:56 AM
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12. I have called it corporate fascism for years. That is the pure
definition of fascism. The people need to take action to stop this. I don't know what that action is but we can't just stand by and let the future of our nation go in this direction.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 12:03 PM
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14. I agree, but yes, how do you combat it???? nt
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 12:42 PM
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21. With violence.
Nobody wants to hear it, but that's all that's left at this point.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 09:36 PM
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22. ^^ This.
And I wish the fucking shoe would drop already--I'm not getting any younger.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 09:47 PM
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24. The problem is many of the people are their soldiers
The teabaggers are in essence a pro corporate fascist group doing their bidding.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 12:04 PM
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15. Frankly I no longer have much hope for this country.
Hopefully I won't live long enough to witness it total demise, but I sure am seeing its fall. Along with the demise of democracy there will be the global climate change that was not only denied but with no preparations made to deal with its consequences.

Even though we now have a Democratic president and majorities in Congress it makes no difference because there will always be excuses made that some outside forces, the freepers, the media, will be blamed for the seeming fecklessness that we are witnessing.
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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 12:14 PM
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17. There is one more step to facism
The end of democracy and replacement of that democracy by a authoritarian government. We were opposed to Communism and fascism because of it's anti-democratic elements in the past,but currently we are embracing fascism via corporate influence.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 12:18 PM
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18. Well, the Supreme Court did override the will of the voters in 2000 by a vote of 5-4.
Then, there's the matter of the Reichstagfeur in the form of 9-11...
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 11:29 PM
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25. Yep
And then the introduction of the e-voting machines right after that.

I'd venture to guess that a full 1/3 of the congress was never duly elected.
And same goes for the state legislatures.

The media played a large part in allowing these things: the Scotus, 9/11, and the e-votes, to be swept under the rug. But these tubes are pulling back that rug.

We are facing a foe that has money and immense power.
The face of our foe is Bushco.
Bushco is responsible for the steal of elections and 9/11.

We can turn things around only after the heads of Bushco roll.


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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 12:32 PM
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20. What's in a name?
You call it fascism, Sheldon Wolin and I call it Invereted Totalitarianism, in honor of it's NEW and IMPROVED structure, NOW with TWICE the Plausible Deniability of old-fashioned Totalitarianism.

"Plausible Deniability is the Retsin (TM) of tyrants everywhere."

Yes, it's very possible that it will eventually get to good-old-fashioned Nazi/Soviet style totalitarianism. I believe it to be so simpyl because one cannot reawaken all those demons that lie beneath every people, every society, just waiting for the right conditions and shepherds to bring it out.

You make a good synopsis of the Inverted Totalitarianism that we are, but that's the point. Tipping Point was reached long ago, perhaps 12/12/2000, perhaps earlier.

http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture/item/20080515_chalmers_johnson_on_our_managed_democracy/

The Dominant Narrative, now a RW-Authoritarian fever-dream, is far too dominant, far to in control.
To fix the corporate media, you'd have to tear it down and start over, and that ain't happening.

The last choice this society will make is between the ruthless control Far-Right Corporate Neofeudalism or that old-fashioned classical "Burn the Witch! Kill the Liberal!" kind of totalitarianism, which, when it comes from the Right, is fascism.
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