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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 03:58 PM
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Amazing Libertarian Health Care Awakening! One vote at a time.
Today I was chit-chatting with my Libertarian friend (I know but she has been very kind to me). We were talking about car insurance and she was pissed off about them raising their rates for no good reason except that they could.

Suddenly she started to rant about how she hated all insurance companies, auto, home and especially health. Now, she works in finance on the Street in a secure job and has very good health insurance. She is very into the "free market" and usually sounds just like a typical Lib, i.e. a Republican isolationist who thinks government should stay out of all social issues. She hated Bush but was into the young lions of the GOP and never like to hear about my "extreme politics".

When I asked her why she thought Health Care was in such a mess she outright stated it was because the Republicans in the Senate were bought and paid for by the insurance companies and they were spreading lies through the disgusting right wing media and half the country was so stupid they believed the lies being told them. I couldn't believe it. When did the light of day break through? This is a life long conservative from Texas who makes her money in money, coming out in favor of socialized medicine. She actually said that the health insurance companies need to be destroyed...never to return.

This change occured in only the last week or so. What's going on?
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Stargleamer Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 04:04 PM
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1. Wow! Libertarians are typically so "free-market"
but anyhow, probably true change can only come when they start caring about what happens not only themselves, but to others as well
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 04:08 PM
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2. Despite her expressing these attitudes, who is she going to vote for?
Who DOES she vote for?

I thought so.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 04:18 PM
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3. She actually voted for Obama because of the Sarah Palin thing.
Also, she determined that Obama was a centrist Democrat and she felt that McCain would escalate the Iraq war. We live in N.J. and she voted for the Independent candidate for Gov. She is registered as an Independent but leans toward fiscally conservative candidates on the local level. Libertarians hate taxes like the plague.

This new stance on HCR is way out of character.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:06 PM
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4. Health Insurance Companies do not operate in a Free Market. They are exempt from anti-trust laws.
Each state decides who gets to sell in that state. Some states have only one Health Insurer, others have more. If every Health Insurance Company operated in every state and had to actually compete against each other, and lost their exemption under anti-trust statutes, that would be a free market. But no such free market exists in Health Insurance.

Libertarians should be incensed against the system. If they are not, it is because they are woefully ignorant about the nature of that particular market.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-10 06:09 PM
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5. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, Walk away.:thumbsup:
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