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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:20 PM Original message |
Why we will never see a public option and why Social Security and Medicare will be "privatized" too. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. K+R Very good article. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. The Ownership Class has been pushing back since FDR reforms |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. If they try to eliminate SS there will be a revolution. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Maybe that's what all those airport scanners are for. |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I agree ...the guys who vote it are out of there |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. No there won't |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Oh, that BS about SS not breing there when I retire has been around longer than I have and I'm 66! |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. It's not that it won't be around, it's that it will be privatized in this way: |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 05:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
36. only if we let them do it. not good politics to start out assuming they'll win. tends to dissipate |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 05:09 AM Response to Reply #11 |
35. so did you bring his prediction up when he started collecting? |
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Ildem09 (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Dunno |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Spot on! Rock Band Beatles Edition II: Revolution! |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:07 AM Response to Reply #3 |
32. No there wont. And if there was a revolution, it will play directly into the hands of the |
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jotsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. All the more reason to fight on a front they can't question. |
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DisgustedInMN (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 07:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. If they try to eliminate SS.. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. If I see you running up a huge credit card bill every month |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 05:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
37. you've accepted their definition of "the problem". |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
10. Medicare is already privitized. CIGNA, AETNA, Palmetto and more |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. It's still publicly funded. |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. I agree. I am for Medicare for all. I just don't get why insurance companies |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Lower profit margins |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
14. How can you claim, with a straight-face, that private industry produces the best insurance structure |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Exactly. Private insurance is horrific with greed. That is why there should not be a MANDATE on |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
15. Health "reform" was the setup for privatization of Medicare. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. That's exactly right. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:03 PM Original message |
Its difficult to gague any intent with politicians |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
22. It's not about the politicians. It's about who is paying them. |
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cutlassmama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. I'd LOVE to see Peterson try to make it on SS. LOL. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Agree. And they knew this could never fly under a Republican administration |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. No, but the Republicans are most certainly helping this reform pass |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. You should put "reform" in quotes. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. True. If they wanted to tank it they'd get on Fox News and scream 'MANDATES!' |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Talk radio just keeps crying "socialism" |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
17. How dramatic |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Obama already said he doesn't mind being a "one-term president." |
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DisgustedInMN (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #20 |
39. Good for him... |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-07-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. don't let the air out of a good self-induced rage! sheesh |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
33. K&R |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
34. "because nobody has told us that is what is being planned" |
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