Libertarians are like anarchists who wave an American flag

[MrScorpio]

These people don't know WHAT the fuck they want.

[athenasatanjesus]

1. They are corporate anarchists

They still want a structured society with property rights,a monetary system and just enough laws so that the total freedom they ask for can be used to exploit the masses.

[The Northerner]

2. Some of the libertarians I met don't really like the US

or its foreign policies for the most part. Lots of them wish we weren't in Iraq or weren't involved anywhere in the world for that matter.

Some of them are agreeabale and some disagreeable.

[NYC Democrat]

9. by "anywhere in the world" they mean things diplomacy trade

or pretty much any relations with any other nations.

[blindpig]

3. Nonsense

Anarchists want to abolish private property.

Libertarians worship private property.

[Echo In Light]

11. +1

[jody]

4. "anarchist" seems a harsh. Are there no libertartian principles with which you agree?

Perhaps you agree with one of the following Libertarian Party goals.

Government should not censor speech, press, media or Internet.

Military service should be voluntary. There should be no draft.

There should be no laws regarding sex for consenting adults.

Repeal laws prohibiting adult possession and use of drugs.

There should be no National ID card.

[MrScorpio]

5. A broken clock is right twice a day

So sure, we can come to SOME agreements

[jody]

7. OK so you agree with some libertarian goals. With what libertarian goals do you 100% disagree? n/t

[Zoeisright]

15. How about no public education?

How stupid is that?

And I disagree with their 'stand', if you can call something a 'stand' that is so STUPID, on gun control, on health care, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, licenses, and foreign aid.

Oh, and also, any 'libertarian' should immediately disconnect his or her house from water and sewer lines, electric and gas lines. Also build your own roads and grow and process your own food. And forecast your own weather, educate your own children with NO BOOKS OR INTERNET, forgo any form of transportation, included buses, trains, and planes, stop going to the doctor, never use medicine or get any shots for disease, and build your own fucking house.

God, how dumb.

[jody]

18. RE education, the Libertarian Party platform says:

2.8 Education

Education, like any other service, is best provided by the free market, achieving greater quality and efficiency with more diversity of choice. Schools should be managed locally to achieve greater accountability and parental involvement. Recognizing that the education of children is inextricably linked to moral values, we would return authority to parents to determine the education of their children, without interference from government. In particular, parents should have control of and responsibility for all funds expended for their children's education.

Obama supports charter schools and vouchers and says:

At this defining moment in our history, preparing our children to compete in the global economy is one of the most urgent challenges we face. We need to stop paying lip service to public education, and start holding communities, administrators, teachers, parents and students accountable. We will prepare the next generation for success in college and the workforce, ensuring that American children lead the world once again in creativity and achievement.

I don't believe Obama and the Libertarian Party are diametrically opposed in their goals.

[Stevenmarc]

6. .

[MrScorpio]

13. OK

Well for one, they're too quick to jump all over the crimes of the state while all but ignoring the impact that corporations have in harming and controlling our lives.

Secondly, that complete opposition to the state welcomes corporate dominance and hamstrings the effort to regulate it.

Thirdly, they're selfish. They want to reap the benefit of living in a civilized, industrialized nation without any responsibility for its cost.

Fourthly, they're oblivious to the nation's history of racial and social injustice and don't believe that the government has any role in rectifying wrongs that they don't think exist.

Shall I go on?

They oppose regulation of banks. The same banks that broke the nation.

They're cool with monopolies.

They oppose labor unions.

They oppose the right to a public education.

They think that health care should be only left up to the free market.

The oppose Social Security... and I'm sure with that, Medicaid and Medicare.

They oppose foreign aid.

They oppose any impediments to "free trade", even if it harms people here or people abroad



All in all, I completely oppose their mindset that, individual rights are absolute (especially for corporations), responsibility should be absent and the cost of civilization is an unwanted burden.

[jody]

16. You've dumped your feelings but have you read the platform of the Libertarian Party? Perhaps you

should because you might find you have several things in common with it and others with which you strongly disagree.

I know you can Google it but I'll provide a link for you and others, National Platform of the Libertarian Party, because it's always smart to know your enemy.

[MrScorpio]

19. I was looking at that link when I made made the list

That's where my reply come's from

[jody]

20. Then I see we differ on the meaning of several items. Have a great day. n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. Libertarianism is to Anarchism what Twinkies are to nutrition.

Anarchists are against the misuse of power from whatever source. "Libertarians" (at least American style) are only against the power of government.

[ixion]

10. As long as our social sub-strata is intolerant of each other

there will never be peace. Just because it's not your cup of tea, there's no reason to disparage others.

[Jennicut]

12. Libertarians know exactly what they want. As much limited govt. as possible.

Now, I have some libertarian ideas. I think all drugs should be legalized, the govt. should stay out of people's personal lives, etc.
But economically, libertarian ideas scare me. No social safety net for people.
Anarchists are a bit different but they still have not expressed how their so called utopia would work without laws. People won't just follow along to get along, outright war would breakout over every little thing. Absolute liberty for all is a lie. Liberty for some, the rest will be oppressed once the most powerful rise to the top.

[Zoeisright]

14. Libertarians are stupid.

Anyone who thinks that a small government is better is stupid. These fuckers use government services EVERY SINGLE SECOND of their lives and they're too stupid to understand that.

[Unvanguard]

17. That's a serious insult to anarchists. n/t

[Lasher]

21. There is a difference between libertarians and anarchists.

Somalia, libertarian paradise