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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:16 PM Original message |
Fifteen Reasons it's Time for a US Revolution |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. not again |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. One reason why it wont happen... |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. You'd think it would've happened by now, but |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. Is this what you want? Truly? Are you sure? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I'm only the messenger... |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. People should stop talking about 'revolution'. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. The people who are talking about it |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. you dont need to fight a revolution |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
37. Well since it died, I'd say it wasn't very effective. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
59. How did it die? |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
76. Recent election results changed all that. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. what did the recent election change? |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #80 |
96. Well you answered that one yourself. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
85. We can't "fight" a revolution now... the opponents are too well armed.. |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Yeah, we have ballot boxes...and here we are. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. If voting changed anything they would make it illegal |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Precisely. Rig the system so that the dupes continue to think it counts for everything |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
38. Majority rules in a democracy. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Not a claim, a fact i.e. in general, but specifically Gore/Bush, Kerry/Bush |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. And other dreary excuses. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. "Excuses?" I haven't a clue as to what you're even driving at |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. There isn't going to be any revolution, |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. ??? I don't think very many Americans share my views at all. So, again, no clue as to your insults. |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. ?? i'm not trying to insult you! |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. "...you don't all think alike, and it's hard for you to accept that." |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Well that's hardly an 'insult'. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. "fix the voting system"... |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Oh I don't think so. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. But most people do not... |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Must be some organizations in the US |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Or government contracts with Deibold n/t |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. Diebold Voting Machine Owner Committed To Give Votes To Bush in 2004 |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. It has been sold to Election Systems & Software |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
64. actually look at the polls putting Grayson up against REPUBS |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. Everybody needs a hobby. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:23 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. What are you getting at? |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. I'm just joking that it will take you a lifetime |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. sure you are trying to convince people |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Nope, just chatting to people. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. when did it end? I am unionized. |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. There are still unions around, |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Bull shit! |
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icymist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
60. Like the majority in the Senate? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
61. I don't try and stage a violent revolution because I detest bloodshed |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
45. OK ...agent Mike. |
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HeresyLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. LOL cute. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
6. what kind of a revolution do you want? what form of revolution do you |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I think we won't get specifics, you know. |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. It's a lot better than the "Go Along" group think we see from some posters. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
46. _ |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. A revolution of the poor and homeless... |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. But forcing power to reveal its true colors might coax the smug n comfy off their asses |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I would hope so n/t |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
65. one where we win singing "we shall overcome" |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. The revolution might start with the noblest of intentions, BUT |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. I disagree. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
84. LOL (nt) |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
97. I agree but... |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
10. Can you imagine Americans trying to wage a revolution? |
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arcadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Tobacco and coffee have been rationed out to US soldiers |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
67. tis true, my dad said he traded his rationed smokes for weed |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-09-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
98. Then Rush can sit it out n/t |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
17. the last time Americans |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Time to begin spreading the word on Civil Disobedience! Howard Zinn: |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. +1 |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Also, the "revolution" at that time was fought along a relatively narrow band |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
69. block to block fighting |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. You know there could be peaceful revolution, don't you? n/t |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. the odds for a peaceful revolution |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Why? |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. they are called history books |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. And I would say... |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
70. I tend to think they are better than the odds of a bloody revolt |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Revolution =/= War |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. That's what I'm trying to get across n/t |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. Where did you get those figures? The population was a little over 2 million in 18th century. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
25. I'm in favor of a real revolution, i.e. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Exactly!! n/t |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
72. And, as I said earlier, what do YOU plan to do? |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
83. I have done... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Then there's your revolution. Now, you just have to convince |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. I agree with that... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Or post messages on discussion boards and think that's useful. |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. I don't get to travel much... |
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Joe the Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
26. Revolution? In America? Wont happen..... |
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DFab420 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
34. Hmm |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
73. Martin Luther King Jr. wanted the best kind of revolution |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
43. A revolt is more what we need. |
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DFab420 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. ? |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. History says other wise. |
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DFab420 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. REally??? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. History tends not to say that a couple days of symbolic strike accomplish much. (nt) |
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okie (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
55. Interesting discussion |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Good post and welcome to DU okie n/t |
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okie (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
56. Malcolm X |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
75. check out Malcolm X the ballot or the bullet |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
57. Tracking a New Kind of Civil Disobedience, by Kathleen Burge |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-08-10 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
63. K&R |
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