Group: Law Should Force Gays Out of Utah

[kpete]

Source: Q Salt Lake


Group: Law Should Force Gays Out of Utah
Last Updated on Monday, 08 March 2010 19:27 Monday, 08 March 2010 18:52
Written by JoSelle Vanderhooft
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A local group called Patriots for a Moral Utah has petitioned Lt. Gov. Greg Bell to submit what it calls the “Fair Solution Initiative” to referendum vote this November.

According to the bill’s text, published this morning on the group’s Facebook page, the initiative seeks to change state law to provide for “the involuntary redistribution and relocation of homosexuals to municipalities outside state boundaries or, to their rehabilitation in state sanctioned facilities.”

To do this, the bill would create an office of relocation and rehabilitation, a volunteer board of Utah residents to assist with the process, and public transportation options for homosexuals who will willingly leave the state. It also outlines guidelines to prosecute “delinquent homosexuals” or those who harbor them.

The bill’s statement of intent says that the bill is necessary to “heal the divides in this state currently afflicted on us by the homosexual population and give them the compassionate choice to either leave the state or conform to the moral standards of society and uphold the values of family and traditional marriage.”

Read more: http://qsaltlake.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1701:group-law-should-force-gays-out-of-utah&catid=26:local&Itemid=39

[no_hypocrisy]

1. Reminiscent of the Spanish Inquisition with the power of King Ferdinand behind it.

Jews could convert, leave the country, or stay in Spain and be slaughtered for being Jews.

[StopTheNeoCons]

17. Creating Nazi Utah, Liberals would be next, then Unmarrieds, then....

everyone else that is not a Nazi....

[roguevalley]

44. they are really asking for a boycott.

[Betty Karlson]

47. My thought exactly.

Are these the Latter Day "Saints" at it again, or just random bigots?

[Archae]

2. One of their leadership in a sex scandal in 3-2-1...

[20score]

45. Too true. Somebody should make book on it.

[DBoon]

Fair Solution = Final Solution (nt)

[Betty Karlson]

48. Precisely.

The last time we had a big depression, the Jews were at the receiving end of the ensuing discrimination (economic volatility = incentive for discrimination). This time, the sexual minorities are the "scapegoat". (Uganda, anyone?)

Sickening.

[kestrel91316]

3. A "fair" solution patterned after the Final Solution. Hurrah for Utah!!!!!

Theocracies suck. Period.

[Richardo]

4. Is the "public transportation" a train of cattle cars by any chance?

Fucking Nazis. I don't even know where to start.

[booley]

5. I want to say this is a POE

I mean, the resemblance of "Fair Solution" to "Final Solution" can't be a coincidence.

Hell, they practically say as much in the "bill"

“Since that time, the homosexual community in Utah has continued to grow and exhibit offensive behavior while relentlessly bombarding our children with carefully placed messages in the media,” the bill continued. “This statute, if enacted, would offer a final solution to afford our children protection from the expanding influence of homosexuals and strengthen our cultural mores at a time when society’s moral anchors are being displaced with reckless abandon.”

[ThomThom]

21. someone needs to put forth a proposition that protects the

children from the people that sponsored this obscenity.

[Ozymanithrax]

6. Constitution! We don't need no Constitution.

[EFerrari]

7. I still say we do an exchange. They give us our AZ DUers

and they can have the wackjob teabaggery.

I volunteer to do the housing exchange.

[Name removed]

8. Deleted message

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[Umbral]

9. I've yet to find any local verification that the press conference actually took place.

Will keep looking.

[Richardo]

11. Thanks for the double check

:thumbsup:

[arcane1]

10. But don't let the gov't interfere in people's private lives!

Because you know, that is wrong or something :eyeroll:

[BrklynLiberal]

12. Even if this is some sort of sick attempt at satire, it is horrifying...

[meegbear]

13. Waiting ... to cut out the deadwood

Waiting ... to clean up the city
Waiting ... to follow the worms
....

[hughee99]

14. Oh, come on, it's not like the Nazis...

They just want to round up all the people of a certain type and either expel them or put them in camps for "reeducation", and if they don't comply, they'll be prosecuted along with anyone who helps them... Okay, it's exactly like the Nazis. I wonder if they're planning to give them all armbands and tattoos for identification.

[mikelgb]

15. I agree. Because if they haven't left utah already something is definitely wrong....

:sarcasm:

[TheWraith]

16. I wish I could believe that this was some kind of performance art...

...but honestly I really don't think so.

Looks like all those Air Force practice runs over Utah are about to come in handy. We've invaded foreign countries for a lot less than this.

[apnu]

18. The top google result for "Patriots for a Moral Utah" is a blogger saying this is a hoax.

But the blogger has nothing to back this up. http://jerpsguy.blogspot.com/2010/03/patriots-for-moral-utah-is-hoax.html

[apnu]

20. further more there are only 64 hits for "Patriots for a Moral Utah"

I think I agree with the blogger, This group does not appear to exist. They do exist on Facebook, currently have a paltry 17 fans. Sounds like the KKK's fan base.

[apnu]

24. Looking over thier fb page carefully many links to landoverbaptist.net, it is a hoax (nt)

[slackmaster]

28. It has to be a hoax

I call Shenanigans.

[SkyDaddy7]

19. This could be the norm...

If Americans do not drop tone down their Bronze Age Delusions! This will have to start with the so-called moderate Christians (if their is such a thing).

Next will be Agnostics/Atheist and so on...

[CLANG]

22. Another reason to NEVER spend one dime in Utah

FuckSticks!

[apnu]

27. I believe this is a hoax

Hate Utah for real reasons, not a bad practical joke.

[Arkana]

23. OK, but only if the other 49 states can ban Mormons.

[greiner3]

25. "Group: Law Should Force mormons Out of Utah"

A local group called Patriots for a Moral Utah has petitioned Lt. Gov. Greg Bell to submit what it calls the “Fair Solution Initiative” to referendum vote this November.

According to the bill’s text, published this morning on the group’s Facebook page, the initiative seeks to change state law to provide for “the involuntary redistribution and relocation of mormons to municipalities outside state boundaries or, to their rehabilitation in state sanctioned facilities.”

To do this, the bill would create an office of relocation and rehabilitation, a volunteer board of Utah residents to assist with the process, and public transportation options for mormons who will willingly leave the state. It also outlines guidelines to prosecute “delinquent mormons” or those who harbor them.

The bill’s statement of intent says that the bill is necessary to “heal the divides in this state currently afflicted on us by the mormon population and give them the compassionate choice to either leave the state or conform to the moral standards of society and uphold the values of family and traditional marriage.”


You can tell a mormon by the funny underwear they wear.

[Lucky Luciano]

26. Sounds like these zealots meant to say "Final Solution Initiative." Disgusting!! nt

[DeSwiss]

29. Dumb assholes.

Never heard of the Constitution.

- And people wonder why I hate religion.

K&R

[southernyankeebelle]

30. When Utah stops legal rape of children and forced marriages of

girls into interfamily and multi marriages. Shame on Utah. You have no shame. But then again your religion is nothing but a cult.

[Cherchez la Femme]

31. According to Daily Kos this is from the teabaggers

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/3/8/141821/9978

As for 'possible hoax', can the teabaggers possibly comprehend the irony? Somehow I doubt it;
yet they do indeed use the phrase "final solution":

"This statute, if enacted, would offer a final solution to afford our children protection from the expanding influence of homosexuals and strengthen our cultural mores at a time when society’s moral anchors are being displaced with reckless abandon."

Utah should perhaps clean up their clearly illegal polygamist problem before they turn their two-faces towards 'eradicating' innate homosexuality, something which will never happen as a certain percentage of children of every population/society will be born with that certain predilection

[onenote]

51. no its not

http://qsaltlake.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1701:group-law-should-force-gays-out-of-utah&catid=26:local&Itemid=39

[mahatmakanejeeves]

32. Shhhh! Ken Cuccinelli might hear you.

(Virginia's new attorney general)

[David Zephyr]

33. This gay guy hopes their ballot initiative goes forward...

1.) It will showcase bigotry to the entire world.
2.) It proves exactly what David Boies and Ted Olson are now arguing: Equality under the law as it is written into the U.S. Constitution is not subject to ballot initiatives.
3.) This sort of out-of-the-closet gay hatred is exactly what Americans need to see up front. I'm glad the bigots are speaking out clearly now and not being nuanced.

This is good for GLBT Americans.

[old mark]

34. Evidently "Moral Utah" is another oxymoron........nt

[pundaint]

35. Hey, I dug up a golden book that said it's a sacrament to bugger bigots, but I lost it.

[walldude]

36. I say anyone who belongs to this group needs to reread the constitution

right before they have their citizenship REVOKED. This is America not fucking Jesusland or JohnSmithville.

[TankLV]

37. And so it begins...so who here refuses to see similarities to NAZI Germany NOW?!!!

This is really frightening.

They are so confident in their hatred and bigotry, that they feel free to espouse these things IN PUBLIC!!!

[slackmaster]

38. The hoaxer who created this myth fully understood the parallels with Nazi Germany

:shrug:

[WeekendWarrior]

39. And what exactly, dear Patriots, is MORAL about this law? nt

[Deep13]

41. The are wrongly equating "moral" with "holy." nt

[WeekendWarrior]

54. And what exactly, dear Patriots, is HOLY about this law? nt

[Deep13]

55. The Christian Bible makes homosexuality a really bad sin. ...

It actually requires male offenders be killed. We as a society have to realize that religious requirements have nothing to do with and are usually contrary to morality. I'm leave it to the believers to argue about whether dogma "A" or dogma "B" reflects true Christian values.

[WeekendWarrior]

56. Actually, the Christian bible never mentions homosexuality

It does mention pagan behavior, but the condemnation is of paganism, not the act of homosexuality.

Unless, of course, you believe translations made by men with agendas.

[Deep13]

57. So you are suggesting that Leviticus and Romans are somehow...

...mistranslated and that in reality the Bible has nothing to say about homosexuality?

Sorry, that's bullshit. And this is an example about letting the theists fight over which kind of Christianity is the "real" one since they are all based on fiction anyway.

And just why is it okay to kill pagans?

[WeekendWarrior]

58. Okay, to clarify. The Bible doesn't specifically talk about what we today

think of as homosexuality.

It talks about pagan behavior, eunuchs, and restricts condemnation of anal sex to very specific circumstances, in very specific locations.

Better?

[Deep13]

62. Well, that's the kind of argument for other believers.

I don't agree that it is as limited as you say. Regardless, an awful lot of people think that god destroys cities to punish society for tolerating homosexuality.

And I'm familiar with the acceptance and even promotion of homosexuality by some non-Abrahamic ancient societies. The intolerance of the early Christians and even earlier Hebrews toward it just underscores the false equivalency of morality and holiness.

[Deep13]

40. Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003)

There is no rational basis for anti-sodomy laws, ergo, they are unconstitutional.

A category of person cannot be illegal. That would be a bill of attainder which is expressly prohibited by Art. I, sec. 9 and 10.

Stop being such seditious bastards and leave your neighbors alone.

[slampoet]

42. If they force out the gays there will be no Republicans left.

[seanhartnett]

43. looks like the yes men

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/Phony-Utah-anti-gay-resolution-causes-stir/HXZm0sw9cEaL5090wqCTlQ.cspx

[GA_ArmyVet]

46. It was fictional ariticle for a protest.

A local group calling itself Patriots for a Moral Utah held a press conference today calling on Lt. Gov. Greg Bell to submit what it calls the “Fair Solution Initiative” to referendum vote this November.

Later, the group behind the press conference was revealed as a hoax perpetrated by a few local activists.

According to the bill’s text, published this morning on the group’s Facebook page, the initiative seeks to change state law to provide for “the involuntary redistribution and relocation of homosexuals to municipalities outside state boundaries or, to their rehabilitation in state sanctioned facilities.”


Just folloowed the link in the OP.

[malaise]

49. If only

I could run all Mormons out of Jamaica. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[onenote]

50. Confirmed to be a hoax

As usual, a lot of DUers took it at face value.

http://qsaltlake.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1701:group-law-should-force-gays-out-of-utah&catid=26:local&Itemid=39

[Bluenorthwest]

52. Part of the sting of satire is when it is so believable

And when you have a state like Utah, it was easy for many to believe. That is the lesson, not a lesson for DUers, but for Utah, which looks like satire when it is just sitting there.

[onenote]

53. its also a lesson for bloggers

and their readers that they should be a bit more skeptical of unconfirmed stories that have as many red flags as this one had.

[krabigirl]

60. phew..then again, I could see something like this happen in a red state. maybe even california

[Toasterlad]

64. Couldn't Read the Linked Article; My Work Computer's Browser Is Antiquated

Still, while I'm relieved that this particular idiocy is a hoax, I don't feel too badly over being taken in. There's bat-shit crazy religious bullshit all up in America's hizzy.

[krabigirl]

59. Yikes....nazi Utah! Seriously, if this passes, they should be kicked out of the union.

[ladywnch]

61. Don't be surprised when some RW nutjob brings this to the table

for real........I can certainly see Michelle Bachman and her ilk bringing this to the up.....maybe Beck, limpballs......

[Toasterlad]

63. People Who Propose Such Stupid Shit Should Be Forced To Wear a Dunce Cap On Their Head Forever.

I mean, seriously. There are some people who are just plainly too stupid to participate in a democracy. Past time we stopped coddling them and pretending they have anything useful to contribute.

On edit: since this was a hoax, I will proudly wear a dunce cap of my own. But I still plan to participate in democracy, so kiss all your rights goodbye!

:dunce: