Kucinich on now on The Lawrence O'Donnell Show (aka Countdown).

[Faygo Kid]

Lawrence does a good job.

[Cleita]

1. He's also going to have Ken Starr.

Ugh! :puke:

[Auggie]

2. Congressman Kucinich is just fantastic

Not enough superlatives for this man

[Mika]

4. Agree.

:hi:

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[malaise]

6. He has convictions

A rare man in these times.

[O is 44]

44. Come on Malaise I like you....

you can't think this is being helpful wanting to block the healthcare bill from passing.

[Cleita]

53. I agree and his

assertion that we can't build on it is right on because the foundation is sand.

[HughMoran]

9. If you're a Republican

:eyes:

[LakeSamish706]

14. The Republicans are those that are going along with this flawed bill! n/t

[Faygo Kid]

30. And those Republicans voting for it are . . . . ?

What are you talking about? The bill won't get a single Republican vote in the House or Senate. Give me a break.

[LakeSamish706]

37. I'm talking about the Democrats that are supposed to be Democrats but instead

act and vote like Republicans. We know that there are many supposed Democrats that really are not what they seem. Kucinich is not one of these, he is consistent and speaks his consistency.

[frazzled]

40. How can Ds "act and vote like Republicans" when the Rs vote exactly the opposite of Ds?

This explains to me the confusion of the Kucinich faction of the Democratic Party. The source of the confusion is: they're just plain confused.

You just gave the most laughable argument imaginable with regard to health care (the subject of this thread): Kucinich is more of a Democrat because he votes identically to Republicans, while Democrats are more like Republicans because they vote against everything the Republicans do. Hokay.

[Faygo Kid]

49. Well said.

The next time I see or hear a Republican come out in favor of any Democratic health plan will be the first.

[aquart]

12. I don't often agree with his votes but I do this one.

[rocktivity]

21. Now that's what I call reality TV!

:bounce:
rocktivity

[pleah]

3. K&R He is right. n/t

[LakeSamish706]

5. "Congressman Dennis Kucinich you have been consistent throughout the HC

process." What more needs to be said about DK? Thats one hell of a lot more than many others in the Democratic party IMHO.

[HughMoran]

7. Kucinich is trying his best to destroy the Democratic Party

I give up - what a massive self-indulgent ass hole he is.

Since he can't get what he wants, he's going to drag the whole party down.

[LakeSamish706]

11. Bullshit! n/t

[AllentownJake]

15. I think Rahm, Tim, and Larry are beating him to that

but you can keep on blaming one guy out of 435 from Ohio.

[HughMoran]

20. Rahm, Tim and Larry don't vote in Congress

SO they are 0's.

[AllentownJake]

23. They sure shape policy though

and Rahm shapes strategy...a year of talking about this later, how is Rahm's strategy working out for us?

[HughMoran]

25. Kucinich is a self-indulgent ass hole

His inability to compromise is a disgrace and anybody who argues for this moron who is out to kick my family in the kneecaps will be put on ignore.

[AllentownJake]

27. I could say the same about Rahm

but I don't want to be yelled at by any naked men in the shower.

[HughMoran]

31. I don't give a crap about him now - he doesn't vote in Congress

The plan is vital for me and my family - I can't afford a $24,000 increase in premiums. Why do fellow supposedly compassionate Democrats hate me and my family :scared:

[AllentownJake]

32. You'll pay that anyway

and you will do it at the point of a gun.

Now drop the emotional hyperbole.

[HughMoran]

36. No, I work in a small business and the exchanges and tax help is vital for us

Only a Republican or a liar would not acknowledge that this is in the bills.

[Umbral]

51. 'cause if you aren't a Congressman you can't alienate potential voters, that's good to know. nt

[O is 44]

24. Rahm,Tim and Larry don't have a vote...

Yes when one guy threatens the healthcare bill’s fate yes we have every right to blame him. He should follow the example of Bernie Sanders.

[AllentownJake]

29. He voted against the House Bill

Why does anyone in their right mind think he'd vote for the Senate Bill that was worse?

I don't care how many screaming angry naked people you send at him.

[O is 44]

41. Yes he did and it had a public option and

he still voted NO but tonight he says that he cannot support the Senate bill because it does not have one. He can't have it both ways.

[AllentownJake]

43. The public option in the House Bill was a joke

and anyone with any kind of real intelligence knew that.

Hell even an ex Obama for America organizer complimented me for realizing that, and all they do is lobby for this bill, all I ever hear about from them.

[O is 44]

45. he seems to be full of excuses....

so now if we don't agree with good ol Kucinich we don't have intelligence? Oh well I hope this gets done despite Kucinich because many people will be helped including some of my family members.

[Raineyb]

52. So where was your outrage when Nelson, Landrieu and Lieberman were

going along with the Republican filibuster while making demands to weaken the bill. Didn't hear quite so much tearing of sack cloths when that happened.

So you think it's okay for a blue dog to vote no in order to weaken the bill but a progressive can't vote no to strengthen it? No wonder the party can't get anything the people want done without compromising the hell out of it until it's unrecognizable.

[Dinger]

46. That's For Sure

There's more.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x212025

[tallahasseedem]

16. +1

Most definitely.

[Auggie]

17. Bull. The Democrats are doing their best to destroy the Democratic Party.

[HughMoran]

22. Kucinich is the worst - he doesn't know how much damage he just did on Countdown

What a disgrace.

[Auggie]

28. Oh right -- he told the truth. I forgot that's a no-no for politicians.

[HughMoran]

33. He's destroying the Democratic Party

There are times when you can't destroy the Party of which you are a member. He's killing his own family and telling everybody "but I was just telling the truth". Nobody thinks that's honorable.

[Auggie]

42. As I said earlier, the Democratic Party is doing a fine job of destroying themselves

without his help.

[Dinger]

47. + 1

Some people don't like that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x212025

[O is 44]

18. So true,

I'll take Bernie Sanders over him any day. He lied that there were no provisions for dealing with the rising premiums in this bill. That is just not true.

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[tabasco]

35. Exactly.

The little twerp has to show what a tough guy he is.

His vanity is more important than the common good.

:puke:

:puke:

:puke:

:puke:

:puke:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. Wait a minute! I thought Kucinich and the Left were irrelevant.

You know, just "self-indulgent" thrill seekers with no power who could accomplish nothing.

Now they're powerful enough to destroy a whole political party?

:crazy:

[Dinger]

48. Lots Of That Kind Of Thinking Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x212025

[flvegan]

50. How so?

Don't be stupid nor flippant. Tell me how specifically he's doing that.

Ball in your court, Moran.

[Individualist]

54. Fail

[O is 44]

8. "Ralph Nader of healhcare reform" Sam Stein n/t

[HughMoran]

10. Yep

Between Nader and Kucinich, all I can say is uggh :(

[Faygo Kid]

26. Have to say, I am beginning to agree.

I thought Sam Stein made a strong point there. INCOMING!!!

[aquart]

19. How delightfully belittling.

But, at this moment, Kucinich is telling the truth about the flawed garbage that Congress is trying to push on us as a triumph. A Republican triumph. An insurance company triumph.

[lordsummerisle]

13. K&R n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

39. Oh, the horror! A politician who hasn't sold out to the insurance lobby.

The wailing and gnashing of teeth because of one guy who won't conform to the party line.