MASSA's ramblings about his 24 yrs of Navy service are distortions, besides other distortions

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A day ago I'd never heard of him. Then there was something about Rahm naked in a shower and yelling at him over politics and pointing a finger at him. Then there was something about him in the Navy catching a roommate masturbating (he and a fellow Navy officer? Since officers share a room, while enlisted live in bunkbed type dormitories).

Then today on BecKKK's circus, the first thing he produced was a "cruise book," which is a Navy ship's photo album, like a high school yearbook, that featured sailors aboard a ship doing wild antics and dressed or undressed in role playing.

Somehow, this fellow is giving the impression that his problems are related to Navy service. Or to seeing Rahm EMMANUEL nekkid. Or to catching somebody masturbating.

Now, it has been said here at DU myriads of times that being Gay is not to be considered a negative thing and that calling our wingnut enemies "Gay" as an attempt to slur them is unacceptable. I believe that Gays have served in ALL branches of the military from time immemorial, probably in the same proportions as in all walks of life and professions.

What I'm objecting to is this fellow's confusion in his own mind that casts some VAGUE unseemliness on others, which SEEMS to allege something, but then it DOESN'T (allege anything).

I don't know but have heard that males (I haven't heard "females") who run in the same power circles are sometimes known to conduct business in steam rooms nekkid. What exactly does it mean to MASSA that he and EMMANUEL were both nekkid in the shower and EMMANUEL yelled at him about work? It just sounds, what, SALACIOUS?!1 But then nothing else happened. I have no idea what BecKKK said were "four chargeable offenses" that could be lodged against EMMANUEL.

As for the Navy, on A SHIP, there is little to no privacy. Hundreds of (used to be only dudes) are in close quarters. It is possible that MASSA surprised a dude "remembering his wife" as he coyly puts it. He might have excused himself and returned later and never said a word. Instead, bizarrely, he "hit/smacked him on the leg and asked whether any help was needed" and then NOTHING HAPPENED from the other dude. So what was the POINT of bringing this story up and mixing it into ANYTHING?!1

Then today, supposedly the cruise book pictures he showed must have been about the tradition of HAZING that Navy ships (used to?) perform when they crossed the Equator: Blue collar physical hazing, dunking in gross liquids, beatings, some cross dressing, rituals and role playing.

What the fuck does this have to do with MASSA's personal problems, whatever THOSE are?!1 Is he trying to say that his participating in this old B.S. made him what he is today?!1

Somebody here posted that he is dying and might be mentally confused due to his treatments. That's one point. It sounds plausible to me that he has not intellectually digested his transition from the military back to civilian life.

If anybody saw "South Pacific," there were some let's-put-on-a-show scenes with some "sailors" performing. There are more pics at the link below.



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http://www.desausa.org/pollywog_to_shellback.htm

Pollywog to Shellback - A Tradition

In the U.S. Navy, when a ship crosses the equator a time-honored ceremony takes place. ....

Breakfast was piped at eight bells for all Shellbacks the next morning. Our Ensign had been lowered and the 'Jolly Roger' was hoisted. This meant that the hazing was underway. Steak and eggs was the meal for the Shellbacks. We had hard tack and coffee made with salt water.

Various charges were levied against the Pollywogs. Officers were dealt with more harshly than enlisted men. We had a lieutenant who had been in the First World War. He was a Mustang with 25 years of service, but had never crossed the line. Accused of painting the town when we were in New York, he was made to climb the rigging with a bucket of paint. Another officer was ordered to the forecastle with two coke bottles for binoculars to keep a look out of the mail buoy. I was accused of impersonating an Irishman, and had to eat an Irish apple, (which was a raw onion).

As you knelt before the Judge in King Neptune's Court, you were ordered to kiss the Royal Baby. He was the ugliest guy on the ship. A bucket of mustard was hidden behind him and when you went to kiss him, he reached back to the bucket and hit you with a handful of mustard. The royal barber was next. He had electric clippers that kept shocking you as he cut your hair. After that came the 'Royal Bath.' You had to say Shellback three times as they were dunking you.

Running the gauntlet was the final stage of the exercise. A tarp was spread out on deck and greased with graphite, over it about a foot was strung a cargo net. You had to crawl along the tarp for about ten yards with Shellbacks paddling you and another at the end with a fire hose to drive you back just when you thought you were through. When it was all over you could take a deep breath and with great pride say: Now I am a Shellback." ....



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-crossing_ceremony

Line-crossing ceremony

.... After crossing the line, Pollywogs receive subpoenas <1> to appear before King Neptune and his court (usually including his first assistant Davy Jones and her Highness Amphitrite and often various dignitaries, who are all represented by the highest ranking seamen), who officiate at the ceremony, which is often preceded by a beauty contest of men dressing up as women, each department of the ship being required to introduce one contestant in swimsuit drag. Afterwards, some wogs may be "interrogated" by King Neptune and his entourage, and the use of "truth serum" (hot sauce + after shave) and whole uncooked eggs put in the mouth. During the ceremony, the Pollywogs undergo a number of increasingly disgusting ordeals (wearing clothing inside out and backwards; crawling on hands and knees on nonskid-coated decks; being swatted with short lengths of firehose; being locked in stocks and pillories and pelted with mushy fruit; being locked in a water coffin of salt-water and bright green sea dye (fluorescent sodium salt); crawling through chutes or large tubs of rotting garbage; kissing the Royal Baby's belly coated with axle grease, hair chopping, etc.), largely for the entertainment of the Shellbacks. ....

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1. Lawrence O'DONNELL and FINEMAN wanted to see these pics.

From the cruise book MASSA showed on BecKKK's t.v. circus, that were too small to see via the camera. (LET ME BE CLEAR: These are not MASSA's pics. They are from the link in the O.P., from some other ship.)

They're right here in the O.P.

Plus, O'DONNELL asked FINEMAN, "Who has done more damage to the Navy---the Village People or former Congressman MASSA?!1" That was my point.

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2. I think the point of the Navy story with his roomie was explaining an event

that led to an allegation of misconduct against Massa. I think I read his roomie requested to be reassigned to other quarters and was. I can't cite a source at the moment. There's been so much in the last few days, I can't cite a source where I read that. But Massa apparently was explaining a previous "misunderstanding" from his Navy days.

As you've gathered, it seems Massa's portrayed himself as a bawdy old salt who hasn't changed his ways. Yes, he's saying that's just the Navy way and he hasn't outgrown his "frat boy" ways. It's bullshit. Massa's issues, whatever they may be, are his own.

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3. Thank you for understanding. n/t

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4. Last self-kick n/t